Mad Max: Fury Road

[Khev]

That's totally the kid. And Wez as a nice, friendly guy: Mind blown.

Just one more thing that's amazing about Fury Road is that with $150 million Miller had the funds to go off in any direction he wanted. He could have showed us urban centers, had a 20 minute prologue showing past society launching nukes, cities crumbling, you name it. All the things he couldn't afford to do with the first films. But he didn't! No detailed exposition of neutron bombs that target your midichlorians or whatever crap.

Even with a monster budget the cause of the apocalypse is still irrelevant to the story at hand and just as vague as it ever was. So many filmmakers should take note on how Miller chose to return to his world.

 

[jye4ever]

That I do like, just keeps it vague.

I really hope this movie get an extended cut.

I just want more of everything.

More battles, more IJ, more Furiosa and Max, more wives, more BF and GT gangs, more more more.

 

[Khev]

He should have broken the story up into three movies.

 

[jye4ever]

MM Reunion

 

[jye4ever]

He should have broken the story up into three movies.

This movie should've been 2 1/2 long.

I wanted those warrior women to kick more ass and more bad stuff for IJ to do!

I never fully hated IJ as much as I should've.

Wez was a despicable mean muther******

 

[Khev]

Fury Road Part I: An Unexpected Detour

Fury Road Part II: The Desolation of Salt

Fury Road Part III: The Battle of the Five War Parties

 

[jye4ever]

Lol /\

btw, what did I say yesterday!

MONDAY BOX OFFICE

1.	Mad Max: Fury Road	$5,329,473
2.	Pitch Perfect 2	$5,209,500
3.	Avengers: Age of Ultron	$3,435,547

However,

ASM2 made 709 million from a 255 million budget and it was considered a complete financial disaster, what chance does FR have!

 

[jye4ever]

I know i'm beating a dead horse but in all honesty FR has nothing on RW when it comes to character interactions and scene development.

Not because FR is bad, RW is just that good, lightning in a bottle that one is. RW just oozes with incredible characters, action and vehicle designs. .

By all means, resume your doofus celebrations.

I do like that Furiosa has the swollen eye at the end of FR.

 

[karamazov80]

Good lord! After every stunt, the stunt guys look like they need to go to the hospital. A brutal time to be a stuntman!

 

[Khev]

I'm very curious as to the status of all those businesses and things we saw back in MM. Gas stations, bars, stores, tow truck and shipping companies, etc. Are all of those still hanging on out on the coast? Or have the marauders of the waste like Humungus and IJ sacked the last remants of "civilization" by now? Having 40 year old Charlize be snatched and forced into slavery as a baby/child really adds decades to the length of the apocalypse. Even though Hardy is young it seems that the world we saw in MM is a long time past.

MONDAY BOX OFFICE

1.	Mad Max: Fury Road	$5,329,473
2.	Pitch Perfect 2	$5,209,500
3.	Avengers: Age of Ultron	$3,435,547

Nice!

 

[jye4ever]

Only by 120,000 but a win nonetheless!

FR definately way ahead in the future, new societies in full swing.

FR did rekindle my old obessions with MM/RW, and even BT.

Man, look at that glorious monday box office, crows is going to be so happy!

 

[Khev]

FR definately way ahead in the future, new societies in full swing.

Yes, if you want this to fit with MM and just pretend that MM and FR both connect but with different actors then then you've got a choice to make.

1. Assume that the apocalypse is already decades old (not "a few years from now") in MM but that the crazies in the waste haven't molested anyone on the coast yet. Therefore "business as usual" has been able to continue in a sense as reflected in MM. In other words, Max is a cop and there are still businesses and government of sorts while out in the desert people have already lived to adulthood as slaves (Furiosa.)

2. Assume that FR reflects a parallel but different backstory for Max. If he and Furiosa are roughly the same age then he actually grew up in the apocalypse and never experienced the old society. When he talks about once being a cop in the beginning it would have been some hardcore desert wasteland version of law enforcement, not what we actually saw in MM.

3. Assume that the events in MM played out exactly as we saw them, then society crumbled even more over the decades, and Max in FR is actually a very youthful looking 60 year old man.

 

[creature4000]

Yeah.. I know people would be bat **** crazy in a apocalyptic world, but to get to the level of FR would be generations IMO.

 

[Khev]

I'm actually glad the GM *didn't* really work to "ground" this in reality as a potential real future or anything and pretty much just went full fantasy. Hell the War Boys might as well be orcs or something.

 

[jye4ever]

Yes, if you want this to fit with MM and just pretend that MM and FR both connect but with different actors then then you've got a choice to make.

1. Assume that the apocalypse is already decades old (not "a few years from now") in MM but that the crazies in the waste haven't molested anyone on the coast yet. Therefore "business as usual" has been able to continue in a sense as reflected in MM. In other words, Max is a cop and there are still businesses and government of sorts while out in the desert people have already lived to adulthood as slaves (Furiosa.)

2. Assume that FR reflects a parallel but different backstory for Max. If he and Furiosa are roughly the same age then he actually grew up in the apocalypse and never experienced the old society. When he talks about once being a cop in the beginning it would have been some hardcore desert wasteland version of law enforcement, not what we actually saw in MM.

3. Assume that the events in MM played out exactly as we saw them, then society crumbled even more over the decades, and Max in FR is actually a very youthful looking 60 year old man.

I would take option one and three.

With option one I do believe that the world has started going to ****, but in layers, it just hasn't reached the backwood places, especially on an island like Australia. But even then you still have to stretch your imagination a little bit and be forgiving of certain story elements that are missing.

With option three, this is why an older Mel Gibson would've been perfect for FR.

 

[Deckard]

I think it's the same way you need to put aside the fact that James Bond would be 84 right now. How has this guy that saved Earth countless times still able to be a "secret" agent?

 

[Khev]

I love that Miller could have so easily made this a preachy "statement" movie and didn't. He practically avoided every pitfall of modern filmmaking. If you think about it the Citadel is just another Elysium. Green, rich, and with soft supple people living in luxury in sight of but still out of reach of the unwashed masses. But you don't watch it and go, "ooh that's America, ooh that guy's George Bush," or any of that.

You can come to your own conclusions about why certain themes worked their way into the movie based on the current world we live in but the film never hits you over the head with any of them, whether they be feminisin, sexism, class disparities, etc.

 

[jye4ever]

The film doesn't even explain what country it's in.

It no longer has to be Australia.

One thing is certain though, GM has a cult following as a director.

Imagine being an MD first then succeeding in a career where you blow **** up!

Yeah, he's bad ass.

Stunt men view him as a diety.

I like it that he still honors his deceased partner Kennedy.

 

[karamazov80]

But you don't watch it and go, "ooh that's America, ooh that guy's George Bush," or any of that.

Maybe you didn't, but it was pretty clear to me that Joe was Bush, war boys were Homeland Security agents, Furiosa was John Kerry, Max was Nancy Pelosi, and the pregnant women were the 9/11 terrorists. The only way he could have more clearly spelled it out was for them to wear name tags.

 

[Khev]

Maybe you didn't, but it was pretty clear to me that Joe was Bush, war boys were Homeland Security agents, Furiosa was John Kerry, Max was Nancy Pelosi, and the pregnant women were the 9/11 terrorists. The only way he could have more clearly spelled it out was for them to wear name tags.

Shoot all that went right over my head.

Reading some of Miller's interviews I see now how the spikey cars were a none too subtle metaphor for the break in the administrative centralization of French politics between 1798 and 1799. Duh!