Major League Baseball 2011

[gibby]

Always cracks me up the haters who just assume because Pujols hits so well he's on something.

Yeah, especially for someone that just came into this thread.

We may never know the truth, but a lot of people have tried to bust him over the past 10yrs with no luck, so if he has done it, MLB, the Cards and Pujols have done one hell of a job at covering it up.

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

Yeah, especially for someone that just came into this thread.

We may never know the truth, but a lot of people have tried to bust him over the past 10yrs with no luck, so if he has done it, MLB, the Cards and Pujols have done one hell of a job at covering it up.

Do we need a certain post count to have an opinion here? Didn't think so

They haven't busted players who took HGH b/c there was no test for it in the Major League's. Not really rocket science, but I'm used to Cardinal fan apologists after hearing them defend Mark McGwire for over TEN YEARS

 

[The Josh]

Yeah, baseball I don't think would have a problem busting someone now. I mean they didn't mind busting manny right out of baseball. You're right we may never know but based on what we've seen I don't think there is proof to show he is.

 

[The Josh]

Do we need a certain post count to have an opinion here? Didn't think so

They haven't busted players who took HGH b/c there was no test for it in the Major League's. Not really rocket science, but I'm used to Cardinal fan apologists after hearing them defend Mark McGwire for over TEN YEARS

He's been built like this since he was going to kc here in kc and like this since he's been in the bigs. He has not had the body change you see of someone like big Mac or bonds. So until he tests positive it's pure speculation by haters that he's done something. Also he's put up the same numbers every year guys that do stuff tend to have crazy spikes.

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

He's been built like this since he was going to kc here in kc and like this since he's been in the bigs. He has not had the body change you see of someone like big Mac or bonds. So until he tests positive it's pure speculation by haters that he's done something. Also he's put up the same numbers every year guys that do stuff tend to have crazy spikes.

Well you can have the "innocent until proven guilty" stand point, I choose not to be that gullible anymore considering over 100 of these guys are named on the Mitchell report, and that's only the players that were caught.

Bonds didn't have crazy spikes, he only got better. ARod didn't have crazy spikes either, as he continues to put up 30/100 annually. Just sayin'.

 

[gibby]

Do we need a certain post count to have an opinion here? Didn't think so

They haven't busted players who took HGH b/c there was no test for it in the Major League's. Not really rocket science, but I'm used to Cardinal fan apologists after hearing them defend Mark McGwire for over TEN YEARS

No you don't, but funny how you just prance on in and start ____ with people here and act like it's all in joking.

Not really rocket science...so is that your way of saying you have no proof?!?!

Just because your ARod and Giambi got busted you think every player that puts up great numbers is a PED hack, huh?!?! Let me guess, Ruth, Gehrig and Mantle were PED hacks, too, right?!?!

Like Josh said, Pujols has had the same body type since high school. Until there's proof, you're just talking ____.

 

[gibby]

Well you can have the "innocent until proven guilty" stand point, I choose not to be that gullible anymore considering over 100 of these guys are named on the Mitchell report, and that's only the players that were caught.

Bonds didn't have crazy spikes, he only got better. ARod didn't have crazy spikes either, as he continues to put up 30/100 annually. Just sayin'.

If you really feel that way, then why do you even follow the sport?!?!

I'm not sure how you could ever be happy watching baseball thinking everyone is cheating.

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

No you don't, but funny how you just prance on in and start ____ with people here and act like it's all in joking.

I cracked a joke about Pujols in an MLB thread, I did not start with any specific poster. Nice try though.

Not really rocket science...so is that your way of saying you have no proof?!?!

That's my way of saying nobody in MLB has proof of players taking HGH b/c they had no test for it. Complex, I know. Try to keep up.

Just because your ARod and Giambi got busted you think every player that puts up great numbers is a PED hack, huh?!?! Let me guess, Ruth, Gehrig and Mantle were PED hacks, too, right?!?!

Never an ARod or Giambi fan, they were not original Yankees anyway. Keep trying to troll me and failing though, it's amusing

Like Josh said, Pujols has had the same body type since high school. Until there's proof, you're just talking ____.

Who cares? Rafael Palmeiro had the same body type, and I can list many other players too.

You seem really MAD that someone doesn;t take Albert Pujol's at face value. Maybe you should take a walk

 

[The Josh]

Well you can have the "innocent until proven guilty" stand point, I choose not to be that gullible anymore considering over 100 of these guys are named on the Mitchell report, and that's only the players that were caught.

Bonds didn't have crazy spikes, he only got better. ARod didn't have crazy spikes either, as he continues to put up 30/100 annually. Just sayin'.

Well, not every guy playing is doing something. So until something happens to show otherwise I'll give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

Uh yeah he did. He had never hit more than 49 bombs before hitting 73. Also his other numbers were higher at an age when even the best of the best start to slow. Arods numbers during the years he admitted to doing something are higher than his other years. Just because he's been consistent doesn't mean he's on something.

Let me guess you're a bonds or arid guy?

 

[The Josh]

Never an ARod or Giambi fan, they were not original Yankees anyway. Keep trying to troll me and failing though, it's amusing

Now, I get it. Yankees fan.

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

Well, not every guy playing is doing something. So until something happens to show otherwise I'll give the guy the benefit of the doubt.

Fair enough.

Uh yeah he did. He had never hit more than 49 bombs before hitting 73. Also his other numbers were higher at an age when even the best of the best start to slow.

Like I said, Bonds did not spike, he only got better. You proved my point thanks.

Arods numbers during the years he admitted to doing something are higher than his other years.

Which numbers from what year? B/c depending what numbers you're referring to you can be very wrong.

For example, ARod admitted using in his Texas years 01, 02, 03.

If you take his '03 Texas Ranger stats: .298, 47 HR, 118 RBI, they are WORSE than his numbers from his 2005 MVP year in New York as a Yankee: .321, 48 HR, 130 RBI

And to answer your question I'm not an AFraud or Bonds fan.

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

Also ARod's 2007 year is better than 2/3 of his years as a Texas Ranger.

 

[gibby]

I cracked a joke about Pujols in an MLB thread, I did not start with any specific poster. Nice try though.


That's my way of saying nobody in MLB has proof of players taking HGH b/c they had no test for it. Complex, I know. Try to keep up.


Never an ARod or Giambi fan, they were not original Yankees anyway. Keep trying to troll me and failing though, it's amusing



Who cares? Rafael Palmeiro had the same body type, and I can list many other players too.

You seem really MAD that someone doesn;t take Albert Pujol's at face value. Maybe you should take a walk

I'm serious about it because I spent four years of my life studying sports medicine, then hear people like you who read up on some papers or ESPN articles and think they have a PhD in this stuff and can judge using their eyes who's abusing and who's not.

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

I'm serious about it because I spent four years of my life studying sports medicine, then hear people like you who read up on some papers or ESPN articles and think they have a PhD in this stuff and can judge using their eyes who's abusing and who's not.

So you "studied sport's medicine" for 4 years, yet presume everyone else knows nothing or has no experience in a related field? Brilliant

Since you're so schooled in Human Growth hormone and the effects it has on a baseball players ability to perform better, feel free to give us peasants a lesson, we're all ears.

The floor is yours, Doctor.

 

[The Josh]

Like I said, Bonds did not spike, he only got better. You proved my point thanks.

I didn't prove squat for you. His numbers got better at an age when virtually every great player slows down. Better than his numbers when he was in his prime and then all of a sudden his body broke down. That doesn't happen unless you're getting help. Everyone in and around the game knows Bonds was cheating. Just like Big Mac.

Which numbers from what year? B/c depending what numbers you're referring to you can be very wrong.

For example, ARod admitted using in his Texas years 01, 02, 03.

If you take his '03 Texas Ranger stats: .298, 47 HR, 118 RBI, they are WORSE than his numbers from his 2005 MVP year in New York as a Yankee: .321, 48 HR, 130 RBI

And to answer your question I'm not an AFraud or Bonds fan.

You're not naive enough to think he just quit taking them after 03 right? The way his body has broken down the last few years shows just like Bonds he was on them longer than he admitted.

 

[gibby]

So you "studied sport's medicine" for 4 years, yet presume everyone else knows nothing or has no experience in a related field? Brilliant

Since you're so schooled in Human Growth hormone and the effects it has on a baseball players ability to perform better, feel free to give us peasants a lesson, we're all ears.

The floor is yours, Doctor.

Wow, way to put words into my mouth, troll.
Oh, and btw, what do you want to know?!?! Do you want all my thesis papers, too?!?!

Point being is that you shouldn't assume someone is using just because they're putting up good numbers. There were many minor league careers ruined over your same thesis, guilty until proven innocent, including one of my good friends.

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

I didn't prove squat for you. His numbers got better at an age when virtually every great player slows down. Better than his numbers when he was in his prime and then all of a sudden his body broke down. That doesn't happen unless you're getting help. Everyone in and around the game knows Bonds was cheating.

You claimed a numbers spike, whereas I said his numbers only got better. From what you've posted you're in agreement. not sure why you continue to argue

Just like Big Mac.

Hahaha wow it only took St Louis fans a decade to admit that. Yet, they used the same arguments you're using right now to defend McGwire all those years. Coincidence? I think not.

You're not naive enough to think he just quit taking them after 03 right? The way his body has broken down the last few years shows just like Bonds he was on them longer than he admitted.

Oh so you're a doctor as well as a psychic Josh?! Good to know. Can you tell me the power ball numbers for the next big jackpot? How about the winner of this year's World Series?

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

Wow, way to put words into my mouth, troll.
Oh, and btw, what do you want to know?!?! Do you want all my thesis papers, too?!?!

Point being is that you shouldn't assume someone is using just because they're putting up good numbers. There were many minor league careers ruined over your same thesis, guilty until proven innocent, including one of my good friends.

Translation: I have no answer to the question asked so I''ll continue to lash out with personal insults like a child having a tantrum.

 

[gibby]

Translation: I have no answer to the question asked so I''ll continue to lash out with personal insults like a child having a tantrum.

It's like I keep asking a brick wall what color the sun is. Have you answered any of my questions?!?!

 

[Y4NK33 PL4N3T]

It's like I keep asking a brick wall what color the sun is. Have you answered any of my questions?!?!

The only questions you've asked were after my question that you chose not to answer in a poor excuse of a deflection

Not the brightest star in the sky, but at least you "studied for 4 years"