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Re: The Man of Steel

I think most people who oppose the origin story are saying that everyone knows the "general" origin story: baby Kal El got sent to earth from the dying Krypton by his parents and raised by kindly Smallville folk who taught him good, small town, middle American values. I see your point that if they want to explore an origin, it would have to be a fresh take on it and there are very few options left at this point since his story has been told so often.

But because his story is so well known, I think the movie can kinda gloss over it quickly--like you said like in the Hulk, or like I said a quick flashback like Singer did. No need to go into the whole thing again if it's not a new angle. This will give the movie time to explore the world's reaction to the superbeing and Clark's reaction to his new role as savior.

And Singer did take the whole sequel thing a little too far. He could have just "borrowed" the origin from the 78 Superman movie and called it a day. Smallville does it to a small degree in that it uses the Kryptonian crystal theme for his fortress, but they were smart enough to not be enslaved by that approach. In theory, Singer's approach should have worked if it wasn't for the terrible kid subplot and the rehashed Lex real estate plot.

Origin or not, I'm still excited by the prospect of a new Superman movie and that WB seem genuinely interested in making a quality movie (based on them calling on Nolan).
 
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I love Geoff Johns, he is without a doubt my favorite comic writer today but I don't think he should be near the new Superman film. He knows the mythos and character because everyone knows them, he grew up on them but his work with the character is okay. Even with his Smallville writings, Clark takes a backseat to whatever is going on whether it be the JSA or The Legion.
 
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O yeah your right mike!, are you saying the new superman movie should be just about clark and supes?. I agree he needs to be front and center!! I think he could pull somthing off..without adding any extra heroes into the mix..save that for a team up movie later on.
 
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maybe this is blashemy but I could frankly do with very little Lois Lane in the next Superman movie. If we need a "Discovering Superman" type story line I think she needs to take a major back seat for the first half of the movie.
 
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Superman Returns Lois & Clark storyline was painful IMO, it didnt have the chemistry lets say TOm Welling and Erica Durance have..They were made for eachother..IMO
 
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routh did fine in the part, he just needs to bulk up more

True True..But Tom Welling is already bulked up lol. I can see it now him and darkseid battling in a big budget summer blockbuster..A fanboy can dream cant he lol. Routh did do a good job, but my loyalty lies with Mr. Welling.
 
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Welling wants nothing to do with the part. He wasn't offered Superman Returns but he was certainly interviewed about it to which he said he has no desire to play Superman. He has been ready to bounce out of Smallville for three seasons now, they just keep giving him a "carrot" which brings him back. Many assume since The CW just picked up his show about Cheerleading in High School which he is producer and co-creator of, that it was the carrot for Season 10.

All the Wellingites will have to just come to terms that their candidate doesn't want to be in the race. Routh did fantastic, so did Spacey so I wouldn't mind if both came back but they need a different Lois. Erica Durance would be fantastic but I have a feeling that DC/WB isn't looking to the small screen to enhance the big screen. There is a Green Arrow movie in the pipeline called "Green Arrow: Supermax" yet no one even the writer David S. Goyer is kicking around Justin Hartley's name even though he has been doing spectacular on Smallville.
 
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Welling wants nothing to do with the part. He wasn't offered Superman Returns but he was certainly interviewed about it to which he said he has no desire to play Superman. He has been ready to bounce out of Smallville for three seasons now, they just keep giving him a "carrot" which brings him back. Many assume since The CW just picked up his show about Cheerleading in High School which he is producer and co-creator of, that it was the carrot for Season 10.
I know it seems like that and you are probly right mike. But i have this feeling. with Welling at comic con and his interview there i think he finaly gave in and knows that he is the man of steel. Before when brett ratner was on the supes project he passed it up cause he didnt want the show to end. Things are different now so we will have to wait and see. after all Tobey only wanted to do 3 spidey movies then was ready to jump in with #4...BUT WE ALL KNO HOW THAT TURNED OUT:confused:
 
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Welling without Superman=The Fog.

I am willing to bet if "Smallville" ends it will simply transition into "Lois and Clark" or "Metropolis" or something. Welling will be 40 before he leaves the Superman act behind.

This is not a criticism, I just don't think he can be taken too seriously outside of that, acting wise.
 
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so did Spacey

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I know it seems like that and you are probly right mike. But i have this feeling. with Welling at comic con and his interview there i think he finaly gave in and knows that he is the man of steel. Before when brett ratner was on the supes project he passed it up cause he didnt want the show to end. Things are different now so we will have to wait and see. after all Tobey only wanted to do 3 spidey movies then was ready to jump in with #4...BUT WE ALL KNO HOW THAT TURNED OUT:confused:

Tobey came back because he needed a payday. Money made come back not a love for the character but I'll put in bold here why Tom Welling will NOT be cast as Superman.

If he gets casted then you have Smallville: The Movie.

Can you imagine how strange it'd seem on screen to have Welling and not Durance? How weird it'd be to have Welling play a part that he helped define for a generation completely contradictory to what we saw on Smallville? Imagine if Clark walks into the Daily Planet with glasses and its Welling who meets Lois (whomever would be playing her) and says "Nice to meet you Ms. Lane, I'm Clark Kent", people would be in the audience saying "but they've already met", it'd be a mind____.

Now if they want to do Smallville the Movie as the next step fine, but if they are rebooting the only person I envision coming back would be Routh and even then you are still tying to the older films which they want to break from. I wouldn't be surprised if they go for a whole new cast from Clark right down to the bagel guy outside of the Daily Planet.

Welling without Superman=The Fog.
I am willing to bet if "Smallville" ends it will simply transition into "Lois and Clark" or "Metropolis" or something. Welling will be 40 before he leaves the Superman act behind. This is not a criticism, I just don't think he can be taken too seriously outside of that, acting wise.

Well Welling is turning 33 this year so you may not be too far off but he in an interview around Superman Returns' release he said he doesn't want to put on the costume, that it'd look goofy on screen....that was before Dr. Fate and the JSA of course.
 
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Well Welling is turning 33 this year so you may not be too far off but he in an interview around Superman Returns' release he said he doesn't want to put on the costume, that it'd look goofy on screen....that was before Dr. Fate and the JSA of course.

F! you tom welling
 
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