Man of Steel (SPOILERS)

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

I was reading pretty violent Deadpool, Wolverine, Punisher etc comics when I was quite young. The 90s and late 80s had some pretty violent stuff coming out of the major publishers. Lot's of blood and limbs hacked off etc. Even the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles use to hack people up and kids use to love Jason and Freddy in the 80s.

That was then, this is now.

Not true, i've been reading Uncanny Xforce a recent series and the is lots of blood and gore featured

 

[jye4ever]

Exorcist is an anomaly. There is no place or time for that movie to exist and not scare the fawk out of kids

So freaking true.

Halloween 1 for me as a kid was scary as hell with the boogeyman.

Today as a grown up who hangs out in a doll forum, I like totally appreciate Jamie Lee Curtis's bell bottoms.

Exorcist as a kid for me: Holy crap, wtf am I watching!

Exorcist thru the eyes of an adult: Holy crap, wtf am I watching!

 

[King Darkness]

Exorcist as a kid for me: Holy crap, wtf am I watching!

Exorcist thru the eyes of an adult: Holy crap, wtf am I watching!

Jamie Lee Curtis did have some nice bell bottoms.

 

[Ramatuelle]

You are nailing it, kids are seriously more advanced now at a much younger age than previous generations.

Not saying better, i'm just saying that their discovery phase today is instantaneous compared to prior generations.

The sad thing is, children now enjoy things that you and I had to wait till we were older for. Kids nowadays are watching R-rated movies, they are surfing the net for porn, they are sexting each other and in one case in a local school in my area, two nine-year-olds were caught in flagrante delicto in the coat room at school: they were found underneath a pile of everyone's coats, going at it. WHUT. Same school had to post a guard on the recess playground to keep kids from sneaking off into the underbrush to enjoy each other, during freakin' RECESS. I'm old fashioned - we played tag during recess and I didnt even know what a French kiss was, much less anything else.

Children today have no innocence. They've done everything by age twelve. There is nothing left to discover, adulthood's gateways have been crossed before they even hit 13. I think its sad.

 

[jye4ever]

Could end up being a bad thing, actually.

Man, do you remember having to wait months if not years for a starlog magazine just so you could get your first glimpse at Zod's Bee Gees disco costume.

Today my son can just come on here to this very forum and get more info in one day than what I could as a kid.

I do think though that the sense of discovery and amazement was more rewarding when you had to wait longer and work harder for the movie information.

That wait and hard work made even crappy movies seem all the much better.

 

[Boba Ben]

Man, do you remember having to wait months if not years for a starlog magazine just so you could get your first glimpse at Zod's Bee Gees disco costume.

Today my son can just come on here to this very forum and get more info in one day than what I could as a kid.

I was born in 1985, so I wasn't even a sparkle in my parents eyes yet, but I know what you're saying.

We now live in an age of instant gratification. Everything you want to know can be attained with a few keystrokes and mouse clicks. There's no surprise when you're seeing a movie and the trailer for something you're really excited about comes up and you had no idea that movie was being made. These days, we know about every movie a year or more before the trailer's even out.

 

[chewblacca]

When I was a little kid watching Superman 2, and Supes beat the three villains, I just thought they fell into a smoke filled pit where they could not escape from. No idea they were actually dead at all. No idea he committed murder. Thinking back now, I think the first real murder I saw from one of the shows I watched was G. I. Joe the animated movie. Till then every time a bad guy was blown up in a plane they all had parachutes. Then in the movie I remember Snake eyes tossing someone out of a plane and there was no parachute. He fell and his voice just trailed off.

 

[Khev]

There's not been one superhero movie in recent years that could scar my kids as much as Jaws freaked me out as a kid.

That said the two most nightmare inducing films for my six year old daughter have been The Amazing Spider-Man (had to literally turn it off after the Lizard started running amok) and Brave (the "zombie bear" had her sleeping with her closet light on for weeks.) Which is strange because I never would have guessed that those movies would have been scary in advance.

I think the Burton movies are kind of like Indiana Jones, we all handled Raiders just fine. The tone is frightening even if there is the occasional gross out head burning/melting moment. As I mentioned in a prior discussion both my 6 and 3 year old love TDKR and there's nothing in that film that disturbs them on any level. Its all basically "Star Wars" level violence, Bruce doesn't even get his hand chopped off like Luke did back in ESB. They like Avatar too and I know won't have any issues with MoS (knock on wood.)

 

[chewblacca]

When I was growing up I watched all types of films where people were killed in the telling of the story. The film that changed it all for me was Natural Born Killers. My friends and I saw that and they loved it. I was like this is way too much. After that I started to look at movies and stories in particular, different.

 

[jye4ever]

SHH:

Russell Crowe has been receiving a lot of questions from his fans on Twitter asking him if he'd consider reprising his role of Jor-El from Man of Steel in a prequel and the actor says he's game.

"A lot of you are asking about a KRYPTON prequel, if that's something you feel strongly about let @Legendary pictures know your thoughts," he said. He added, in response to someone, "Just getting sick of reading the same question mate, however, if it came up, i'd give the tights another go."

Do you think a prequel set on Krypton could work? Or would you just like to see him in a Man of Steel sequel as a hologram?

 

[Khev]

Do you think a prequel set on Krypton could work? Or would you just like to see him in a Man of Steel sequel as a hologram?

I personally wouldn't have a lot of interest in simply watching a bunch of people do what they are "programmed" to do.

 

[Boba Ben]

It might be cool if the AI program that projects his image get corrupted and turns into Brainiac. I wouldn't want a Krypton prequel though. I actually thought some of the Krypton scenes were a little weird.

 

[krewe555]

Man of Steel Good Points and Bad:

Henry Cavill: Good. There was a lot of comic faithful, including myself, that were afraid cavill was chosen only for his chiseled good looks. (See Channing Tatum in GI Joe, See Ryan Reynolds in Green Lantern). I am happy to say I was wrong. As Clark Kent, Cavill really shines. He embodies a confident, yet non-sleazy, grace as Clark. When he stands up for the girl at the bar, when he is just hanging out with his mom, you can feel the person he is underneath. I got chills when Clark watches his father die. As superman, I am slightly meh, cuz Snyder made him spew out action movie cliches. Not to mention the action scenes were slightly numbing, so perhaps I was not as sensitive to Cavill's performance at that point. Great job Mr. Cavill, see you in two years for the sequel!!

Action Scenes: Bad point and good point. I wanted to see a 2013 interpretation of two alien titans battling on the streets of New York. I did get to see that, but only at the end of the movie, and it only lasted six minutes!! My eyes widened and I felt over joyous for those six minutes. However the movie spends twenty minutes on the pizza box holder battle (world engine). That entire sequence was superflouous and even slightly silly. If Snyder did NOTHING else except cut those twenty minutes out, the movie would have gotten a better rating.

Potential for a sequel: Good Point. I want to see Mr. Cavill reprise his role, because he performed well. The ambiance, and general feel of this Superman world is also quite superb. I DO NOT want to see another thirty minutes of action scene vomit. Zack snyder is also fit for a sequel, but he ABSOLUTELY has to make sure the sequel flows better, puts in more heart, and less action scene vomit.

Critics Review: Can you blame them? They only rate what they see on hand, not on its potential for a sequel. The character development and the heart was in the movie, but awkwardly sequenced into the movie. The second half of the movie was action scene vomit, so its fitting they only gave this a 50-50 "so, so" rating.

My final opinion: When you buy this on dvd or blu ray, skip over the pizza box holder battle, and you will see that this movie is actually quite good. Christoper Reeve was an angel of a man. I believe he would have accepted and admired BOTH Brandon and Henry. Overall, this movie is good, and sets up a lot of potential for a sequel. (Hopefully with less action scene vomit).

 

[The Ween]

You can do a lot with PG-13 these days. Dark Knight was plenty violent and dark, made a billion dollars and was PG-13.

With a good script and a good director, a PG-13 Wolverine could be amazing.

Sure it could, but not like some are describing.

 

[The Ween]

No, this is actually the MoS thread, Ween.

 

[The Ween]

Wasn't giving pareting tips, just asking a question. I do so because when I saw it there were a few parents trying to explain what Superman had done to Zod at the end. And one even whispered to another how this was not a movie for kids. So excuse MY "cynicism". If your son had a great time

They take their kid to a PG-13 movie. What do they expect? If you have to explain things to them like that, then maybe they should've went to Monsters University instead.

 

[The Ween]

That and kids have sensory overload now. Growing up in the 80s we had about 18 channels on the TV, if you were lucky a friends older brother might have had a playboy to see a boob, Duck Hunt was about as violent as your video games where, Ozzy was the music your parents feared etc....it was just so different.

Parallel those things to what is the equivalent today AND they have the intenet. I don't think kids are as vanilla as we were in the 80's.

Add to that, that some parents will let their kids watch anything and play any kind of violent video game they want, no matter what the rating.

Heaven forbid they should see a boob though.

 

[The Ween]

Not true, i've been reading Uncanny Xforce a recent series and the is lots of blood and gore featured

I didn't say there wasn't violence in comics anymore, I just don't think kids read comics as much as they used too. Hell, a lot of them don't read anything!

 

[The Ween]

The sad thing is, children now enjoy things that you and I had to wait till we were older for. Kids nowadays are watching R-rated movies, they are surfing the net for porn, they are sexting each other and in one case in a local school in my area, two nine-year-olds were caught in flagrante delicto in the coat room at school: they were found underneath a pile of everyone's coats, going at it. WHUT. Same school had to post a guard on the recess playground to keep kids from sneaking off into the underbrush to enjoy each other, during freakin' RECESS. I'm old fashioned - we played tag during recess and I didnt even know what a French kiss was, much less anything else.

Children today have no innocence. They've done everything by age twelve. There is nothing left to discover, adulthood's gateways have been crossed before they even hit 13. I think its sad.

It is sad. I see it all the time. Parents don't want their kids to just be kids. They want them to grow up fast and be their friends.

 

[toylion]

Add to that, that some parents will let their kids watch anything and play any kind of violent video game they want, no matter what the rating.

Heaven forbid they should see a boob though.