Mars Toys 1/6 Batman Forever Two-Face

[pug205]

Favreau is still visible in the final cut. He is there at Wayne Technology walking with Bruce in the lab when they meet Edward. The book is shown briefly in his funeral flashback but yes that sub-plot has been cut up so much for pacing

 

[Captain Clown]

Personally I’m glad we got Forever over “Batman 3”. Returns was absolutely bizarre compared to 1989 - who knows what the next movie in that progression could’ve looked like. It’d be safe to assume Keaton would get sidelined even harder.

Don’t get me wrong, I still enjoy Returns for what it is, but it’s probably the least “enjoyable” of the lot - for me. It’s miserable and gross. Forever was a necessary return to form, although it definitely overcompensated with the campiness.

 

[DiFabio]

Favreau is still visible in the final cut. He is there at Wayne Technology walking with Bruce in the lab when they meet Edward. The book is shown briefly in his funeral flashback but yes that sub-plot has been cut up so much for pacing

Yeah but Favreau has dialogue in this unseen footage.

Wor, the original cut opened with Arkham Asylum. You know how it ends with Riddler in the padded cell? Well the original intro was Dent escaping. He gags a guard and hangs him from his cell when the Doctor, Rene Auberjonois comes in looking for him.

Then there is a whole introduction to Bruce Wayne. He’s introduced as a business mogul, speaking Japanese to close a deal overseas, talking with advisors like Favreau, etc. This cut makes Nygma’s obsession with Bruce Wayne creepier.

The whole plot of Batman’s journey was pretty much cut. It’s the reason the film is called Batman Forever. Originally, when Two-Face escapes the helicopter and Batman dives into the harbor, Batman/Bruce Wayne would begin to experience repressed memories. It’s triggered when Two-Face tells him that he’s a killer too. His parents murder, falling into the cave as a child (this was before Nolan and Snyder) and the giant, big, black bat. It’s why he goes to see Nicole Kidman in the first place. Turns out the reason he became Batman was because he blamed himself for their murders. On the night of his parents wake, he comes across Thomas Wayne’s journal. He reads it and finds out that his persistence to go to the theaters to see Zorro put his parents in harms way. When he reads this, he’s crushed and runs out into the night where he falls into the cave and comes across the bat. When Two-Face and Riddler raid Wayne Manor and Bruce gets shot in the head, Alfred forces him to go back down in the destroyed Batcave and return to the cave he fell into as a child to relive the trauma. Adult Bruce finds the Thomas Wayne journal, reads it and discovers that Thomas and Martha actually did want to go see the film, releasing Bruce of his guilt. He comes face to face with the same fever dream bat from his youth, but instead of running away like he did as a child, he embraces it. When he comes out of the cave and meets back up with Alfred, he was going to have his “I’m Batman” moment and the bats would swarm out of the cave, surrounding them. Again, this was 10 years before Batman Begins.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I guess I'm shellshocked from having seen the Bruce backstory so many times now that its hard to envision what it would have been like back in 1995. Seems like all that story would have just slowed the pace... as well as been a strange fit with the manic Carrey and TLJ running around in their colorful campiness.

Batman Forever is far from a 'good film' , but it would have only been slogged down by a deep and meaning story.

 

[lordnastrond]

Hey Mars, I’d have paid an additional $100 if you included a third (or 4th head) and a handful of accessories like these Bruce Wayne riddles/love letters.

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WOW. those riddle accessories are incredible.

Something I never really thought about until a moment ago while looking at the Batman Forever - The Official Comic Adaptation and the Batman '89 (2021) comic series...

Batman Forever is listed as a sequel to Batman and Batman Returns, and while the actor playing Batman changes he's meant to be the same Batman.

However, Two-Face also changed since Harvey Dent was originally played by Billy Dee Williams. Not the sort of change you'd likely see occur in a movie series created in more recent times.

The 2021 Batman '89 series ignored Batman Forever and Batman & Robin, and reinstated Billy Dee Williams in the role:

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Am I crazy for now wanting Mars to do '89 Billy Dee Williams and a '66 Clint Eastwood concept Two-Face figures...

 

[Wor-Gar]

Am I crazy for now wanting Mars to do '89 Billy Dee Williams and a '66 Clint Eastwood concept Two-Face figures...

Yes. Yes you are. Because you cancelled your Forever figures. How can you now want pretend Forever figures?

 

[Hologram AI]

Updated sculpt with new hair:

 

[Wor-Gar]

WOW -- that's crazy! So glad they're still perfecting.

Hey, maybe you guys who think the suit is too red will get your wish and Mars will find that dark magenta color.

 

[xXJ0kerXx1]

WOW -- that's crazy! So glad they're still perfecting.

Hey, maybe you guys who think the suit is too red will get your wish and Mars will find that dark magenta color.

theres hope

 

[pug205]

Ugh disappointing to see Mars have still not got this into production yet

Seriously how much longer do we have to wait for this figure???!!

 

[xXJ0kerXx1]

Ugh disappointing to see Mars have still not got this into production yet

Seriously how much longer do we have to wait for this figure???!!

the figure was just announced. you likely wont be expecting this till early next year

I wouldn't think about it. makes time go by faster

 

[Captain Clown]

Wow, that looks incredible. Between the updated hair and the potential for an updated suit, I bet this could easily be Mars’ best release to date - when it releases in a few years.

 

[JacktheRipper]

Years he said. Years.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

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theres hope

That'd be great if they can somehow match the color used in the film.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I like the red, but I'll always go with the way it looked in the film. Just as long as its not purple like Joker.

 

[xXJ0kerXx1]

a dark pink/magenta would be such a great addition. definitely feeling the hype now at the prospect of them updating stuff
so glad they can hear feedback from collectors

 

[pug205]

Kudos to Mars, the sculpts were met with universal approval it seemed but he still decides to improve after it goes up for PO.

Not many 3rdparty companies would do the same I feel.

 

[haytil]

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Never noticed the Two-Face coins to the lower left that Batman uses later. Pretty cool detail. Would have been cool to get a dozen coins with this guy.

Are you sure about that? They look too large to be coins to me, almost palm-sized.

 

[haytil]

Probably the biggest reason people consider the Burton films and the Schumacher films in the same continuity is Michael Gough’s Alfred being the consistent thread between them all. Gordon to a lesser extent but another constant. If those actors weren’t there I think most would consider them separate series from one another. Totally different feeling between them.

Well, they were also marketed and released that way.

Doing the same characters in separate series via remakes and reboots is a very 21st-century way of looking at things. It was pretty much unthinkable until "Batman Begins" and "Casino Royale."

James Bond had been running for decades, even though the actors and setting clearly changed. Back then, if you screwed your character up with a bad movie, that was it. You didn't get a "do-over."

 

[Chopper Face]

Are you sure about that? They look too large to be coins to me, almost palm-sized.

It’s a pretty big coin.