MARVEL' S Falcon and the Winter Soldier

[user 64404]

Yeah, but both Bucky and Falcon have wielded the shield in the comics. Like, BuckyCap. It's not that some of the directors and writers don't know that. And Bucky had the shield for a good reason in the comics.

*Shrug*. There's *&^%$ I feel like I just gotta roll with in these screen adaptations. Personally I'd rather have Bucky stay the Winter Soldier, because I like the Winter Soldier. Assassin in the shadows etc. Film-wise IMO it's unquestionable that James Barnes is a good man; otherwise he wouldn't have broken his programming and/or beat Steve to death and/or let him drown and/or become a hired mercenary later or something. Instead he went off to live in a *&&^% apartment and haunt farmers markets in Romania.

Anyway it wouldn't be beyond Feige and company to string folks along, in the end. Like neither Falcon nor Bucky end up with the shield at the end of this series - maybe. Based on Falcon saying there's all these rules Captain America - or the military, has to follow.

Plus Feige isn't saying - except that it would be a spoiler for upcoming projects - whether FWS as a 2nd season or not, tho Loki is already locked in for a 2nd season. So Marvel could just put the shield back in a museum and everyone has to wait for a movie or another series. More $$$ for Disney.

But in this subject, the MCU explanation about who can be Captain America is already a rule to follow.

I love the Brubaker's run in cap\bucky, but it no longer fits the way the MCU decided to go. Bucky(mostly because of the starks death) and Walker cant be Captain America, thats why Steve gave the shield to Sam. Bucky will stay as the indepedent spyagent for the Avengers like he is now in the comics.

 

[Khev]

It would be a fun watch if they went that way for sure. Walker losing it in the comics with the Watchdogs really showed the differences in viewpoints with Rogers. I am curious to see what they do with Walker in the show. I wonder if he will get the Power Brokers to give him some serum for the super strength. We really should make a lot of theories for JYE to ponder late at night.

I know right, lol.

I think one of the things that makes it much easier for me to accept Russell as Walker is that while I still don't think he makes a great John Walker he does at least give off a pretty strong "Reb Brown Cap" vibe which I'm actually finding to be a lot of fun.

 

[jye4ever]

Yup he gives off massive 90?s Cap vibes but with a big budget lol

 

[punisher1974]

Reb Brown Cap was good 70's cheese and Salinger was just bad 89 cheese. shield was way to big for him

 

[The Buffinator]

 

[ironwez20]

I don?t get the hate tbh. Guy just trying to do his job lol. He?s not an a hole or anything .

 

[Sassafras]

I don?t get the hate tbh. Guy just trying to do his job lol. He?s not an a hole or anything .

Huh. Does he have a display in the Smithsonian? Was he part of the Greatest Generation? When Captain America needed help, did he throw everything away to stand up for what what was right? The guy is just some come-lately vanilla Internet generation puppy who wouldn't know what REAL SACRIFICE is if it kicked him in the nuts. He's overly confident, overly familiar, and disrespectful.



Was he Cap's chosen one? Was he picked because he was a good man? Don't think so. Huh.



Can't wait for the next episode.

 

[darth dennis]

Huh. Does he have a display in the Smithsonian? Was he part of the Greatest Generation? When Captain America needed help, did the throw everything away to stand up for what what was right? The guy is just some come-lately vanilla Internet generation puppy who wouldn't know what REAL SACRIFICE is if it kicked him in the nuts. He's overly confident, overly familiar, and disrespectful.

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Was he Cap's chosen one? Was he picked because he was a good man? Don't think so. Huh.



Can't wait for the next episode.

Reminds me, I need to watch The First Avenger again. That movie is so fun.

 

[Sassafras]

Reminds me, I need to watch The First Avenger again. That movie is so fun.

It is. I appreciated it more as time went on. Well made film.

And the Commandos were awesome along with the rest of cast.

 

[Magnusstewardson]

I was always disappointed some 3rd party didn’t make any of the commandos. I’m interested in seeing how the third party Bucky turns out.

 

[Wor-Gar]

It is. I appreciated it more as time went on. Well made film.

Its a bit long-winded but certainly a better story and character arc than Iron Man 1 and Thor 1. Every Cap movie was really well done. Tony may be more fun and have cooler, more ''possible'' tech, but Cap really holds the MCU together though his stories and growth.


Whether its Cap2 or Falcon, they are both Cap-lite to me. I do hope there's more to this series than buddy-buddy conflict and racial camaraderie.

 

[ironwez20]

Idk. I love iron man 1 and also 2 . 3 sucks *** but 1 and 2 were so good and felt refreshing . Maybe cause it was the start of a shared universe but still.

Hell iron man 1 was going to mention raimi Spider-Man and mutants in a deleted scene. I truly believed that they were bringing in those marvel characters together that came out in the early 00s

 

[e30ernest]

I have been re-watching Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. the past few weeks and I am currently back on Season 2's back half. That show is better than this one.

 

[jye4ever]

Is Sharon Carter a

Spoiler

Super Soldier what the hell she took on everyone lol and is she THE FREAKING POWER BROKER!

 

[The Buffinator]

Is Sharon Carter a

Spoiler

Super Soldier what the hell she took on everyone lol and is she THE FREAKING POWER BROKER!

Well,

Spoiler

she is a trained SHIELD & CIA agent, plus she didn't do anything that Jason Bourne or Ethan Hunt hasn't done. And she did get knocked around pretty good. If she is the Power Broker that means she fought & killed her own guys, so I'm going to say no to that one. My guess is she's a deep cover operative for whatever agency Fury is running now. Or maybe she's a Skrull lol...

Fun episode though. Things are getting quite interesting. Daniel Bruhl as Zemo is great.

 

[jye4ever]

Zemo continues to be an amazing, and successful I might add, villain played by a great actor.

Sorry had a brain fart about Sharon my bad I need more booz....err....coffee lol

 

[ironwez20]

Caught it this morning cause I woke up early . This series is already much better than wandavision. Don?t care what anyone says. Doesn?t rely of cheap secrets to be good

 

[jye4ever]

Caught it this morning cause I woke up early . This series is already much better than wandavision. Don?t care what anyone says. Doesn?t rely of cheap secrets to be good

I’m sure there are still some secrets though lol

 

[Spartan Rex]

What’s wrong with Falcon and WS:
(A good insight)
https://observer.com/2021/04/the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-episode-3-power-broker-explained/

 

[e30ernest]

Zemo continues to be an amazing, and successful I might add, villain played by a great actor.

Sorry had a brain fart about Sharon my bad I need more booz....err....coffee lol

I agree about Zemo. He has always been one of my favorite villains. Apart from Thanos, he's the only one to actually defeat the Avengers so far too.