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Batroc the Deliverer
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Established supervillain? Well, maybe for comic book nerds
nana but I'd never heard of Flag Smasher before Episode 1 of this series (seriously). And stop exaggerating - Carli has been the only whiny one - unless I dozed off and Walker joined their cause. Question: Do you think the comic FS is someone that could have been easily adapted/updated for today's MCU? Just curious.
What did Mark Hamill and Patrick Stewart order?
Mark ordered Green Alien milk fresh from the tit, and Patrick ordered a new hair wig.
jye4ever
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Yup lol
Walker's going to be so jealous:
"Damn! I guess it's back to the garage for ANOTHER repaint."
"Damn! I guess it's back to the garage for ANOTHER repaint."
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Marvel did all those things year before Disney....
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Then they should have called the show "Regular Mamby Pambies Deal with the Blip." Don't take an established supervillain and reduce him to a pack of whiny kids in street clothes. What's next the Loki show features a group of disgruntled insurance salesmen called the Magnetos, lol.
If it's Loki I'd totally go for that
.Meanwhile, as this series rolls ponderously to a close, instead of something like Ultron satisfyingly getting punched by Hulk and then getting his heart torn out with a final end blast; or everything Iron Man usually does etc.; can't wait for the friendship circle when our new winged Captain America holds a sing-along with the Flag Smashers in Times Square, and all these rich people offer up their mansions and penthouses with an apology for being rich and insensitive.
I'm gonna have to rewatch all the films to remember why I spent hundreds on all these HTs in the first place
. Sure won't be because predictably the ^%$# boat gets fixed, finally.
Hell yeah I think he would. He even addresses issues that are still hot political topics but in an awesomely over the top way that wouldn't undercut the "escapist" aspect of superhero entertainment, and he does it while wearing a costume that actually looks cool.
Here he is standing over a defeated John Walker, furious that Walker answered his challenge and not Steve.
Hell yeah I think he would. He even addresses issues that are still hot political topics but in an awesomely over the top way that wouldn't undercut the "escapist" aspect of superhero entertainment, and he does it while wearing a costume that actually looks cool.
Here he is standing over a defeated John Walker, furious that Walker answered his challenge and not Steve.
I couldn't get past his spelling out the ULTIMATUM acronym without busting a gut. Damn, and I thought SHIELD was silly. While I can see how you might prefer a more imposing leader for the Flag Smashers, I think a grass roots style leader like Carli rising up is more believable/relatable within the current MCU landscape. Not that her character (as well as others) couldn't do with being fleshed out better but conceptually I really like them, and I doubt a guy running around in a white & black leotard, white boots and a cape would have been an improvement. That outfit may qualify as cool in the comics, but IMO it wouldn't fly on screen.
I just did the same thing. Then I read the rest and it gets funnier. This is what youth is raised on? Now wonder...
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Well that was
So full of cheesy cliche politically correct bloat wondered how long it was gonna go on. Someone on YT posted every time they settled in and the story started getting good, it all got derailed by wokeness. Holy &$@ that speech just dragged on plus WTF this whole thing with Sam and Karli. The action sequences were alright but there's better in the MCU.
My fav MCU character got nerfed and another favorite just ended up sounding pompous. I'd have thought after last week's snooze fest the showrunner would have gone in for a big edge of your seat finale, instead they doubled down on the cheese fest. Feels like a lot was written by fan fiction writers who don't get less is more. Or are disaster porn writers dishing up the tropes. At least Walker got off well - and Zemo.
If other folks like this more power to 'em, for me this was a wasted opportunity. I can't see watching this again
. Saves me some money tho maybe I'll pick up the HT Avengers Cap I wanted. Bummer for me. (And it may be comic correct but don't think the cowl is doing the Cap costume any favors).
My fav MCU character got nerfed and another favorite just ended up sounding pompous. I'd have thought after last week's snooze fest the showrunner would have gone in for a big edge of your seat finale, instead they doubled down on the cheese fest. Feels like a lot was written by fan fiction writers who don't get less is more. Or are disaster porn writers dishing up the tropes. At least Walker got off well - and Zemo.
If other folks like this more power to 'em, for me this was a wasted opportunity. I can't see watching this again
. Saves me some money tho maybe I'll pick up the HT Avengers Cap I wanted. Bummer for me. (And it may be comic correct but don't think the cowl is doing the Cap costume any favors).Well that was
So full of cheesy cliche politically correct bloat wondered how long it was gonna go on. Someone on YT posted every time they settled in and the story started getting good, it all got derailed by wokeness. Holy &$@ that speech just dragged on plus WTF this whole thing with Sam and Karli. The action sequences were alright but there's better in the MCU.
My fav MCU character got nerfed and another favorite just ended up sounding pompous. I'd have thought after last week's snooze fest the showrunner would have gone in for a big edge of your seat finale, instead they doubled down on the cheese fest. Feels like a lot was written by fan fiction writers who don't get less is more. Or are disaster porn writers dishing up the tropes. At least Walker got off well - and Zemo.
If other folks like this more power to 'em, for me this was a wasted opportunity. I can't see watching this again
Yeah this fell flat. For me it wasn't for the reasons you stated.
I felt the action was poorly directed. Had some good concepts, but doing it at night with shaky cam, yeah just no. The Flag Smashers' plan was just too convoluted to work. I don't find it believable that someone as smart as Karli would come up with such a complicated plan and expected it to work in her favor in any way. It would be more logical to hold them in the building and close off all access to that floor (which I would assume has some security measures meant to protect such an important group of officials).
Likewise, I didn't track what the heck Sam and Co's plan was. What was Bucky exactly going to do? What exactly was Agent Carter supposed to do? What was the whole point of that phone call to Bucky?
Batroc was an idiot. I do wish he lived though. Would have been an interesting character.
I'm also not sold on that costume. Looked like he couldn't turn his head. I know they can do good prosthetics or CG head attachments (like they did with Vision in Wanda Vision) so having that stiff headpiece just didn't sell it for me. And someone as goofy as that giving a speech to a senator (who's pretty much an idiot senator anyway) took me out of the moment.
The wokeness I did not mind (I am not American after all so I take a neutral view on whatever right or left wing politics you have). Sam had a point, and I agree with him. I just couldn't get over the delivery.
Agent Carter as the Power Broker was uninspired IMO. But at least it solves the "why didn't Cap help Sharon out" question neatly.
The second half for me was much better. Bucky finally facing his victim's father and making peace with himself, Walker getting the position he deserved and Isaiah getting the recognition for his heroism were all good in my book. Liked the happy ending Sam and Bucky have (surrounded by family and friends) and the final title card was deserved I think.
Likewise, I didn't track what the heck Sam and Co's plan was. What was Bucky exactly going to do? What exactly was Agent Carter supposed to do? What was the whole point of that phone call to Bucky?
Batroc was an idiot. I do wish he lived though. Would have been an interesting character.
I'm also not sold on that costume. Looked like he couldn't turn his head. I know they can do good prosthetics or CG head attachments (like they did with Vision in Wanda Vision) so having that stiff headpiece just didn't sell it for me. And someone as goofy as that giving a speech to a senator (who's pretty much an idiot senator anyway) took me out of the moment.
The wokeness I did not mind (I am not American after all so I take a neutral view on whatever right or left wing politics you have). Sam had a point, and I agree with him. I just couldn't get over the delivery.
Agent Carter as the Power Broker was uninspired IMO. But at least it solves the "why didn't Cap help Sharon out" question neatly.
The second half for me was much better. Bucky finally facing his victim's father and making peace with himself, Walker getting the position he deserved and Isaiah getting the recognition for his heroism were all good in my book. Liked the happy ending Sam and Bucky have (surrounded by family and friends) and the final title card was deserved I think.
Overall, I'd rate WV higher than this. Now bring on Loki and What If.
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The only thing I liked in the finale was Falcon’s costume and awesome comic accurate head piece!
Everything else sucked lol
Well Karli dying was good so 2 things lol
Bucky’s meeting with the father was what I was looking forward to the most and they didn’t give it any respect meh
Plot too convoluted and dumb.
Action not so great the Batroc Falcon battle was badly choreographed definitely no TWS quality between Cap and WS but at least Falcon couldn’t take him out like Cap so easily did.
Power broker meh
Zemo butler lol ok that was good lol
Walker outcome why was he acting so derpy at his last scene lol
Not saying it was trash I keep that rating for GvK.
Overall:
ZSJL > WV/Falcon WS
Everything else sucked lol
Well Karli dying was good so 2 things lol
Bucky’s meeting with the father was what I was looking forward to the most and they didn’t give it any respect meh
Plot too convoluted and dumb.
Action not so great the Batroc Falcon battle was badly choreographed definitely no TWS quality between Cap and WS but at least Falcon couldn’t take him out like Cap so easily did.
Power broker meh
Zemo butler lol ok that was good lol
Walker outcome why was he acting so derpy at his last scene lol
Not saying it was trash I keep that rating for GvK.
Overall:
ZSJL > WV/Falcon WS
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