Marvel Studios/Sony - SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING

[Darth Snoopy]

Yup.

 

[jye4ever]

Lol dude get over it. Spider-Man needed this. Winter soldier did better then him in 2014. His brand was slowing fading cause of bad movies

SM2 was the perfect sequel as far as continuing and expanding everything that was introduced in the first film.

SM3, ruined the Peter and MJ relationship by creating unnecessary problems involving the blonde chick, which goes nowhere.

It ruined the death of his uncle jut to connect it somehow to Sandman.

It ruined Harry Osborne by giving him amnesia and then making him bad and then good again...wut?

Venom/Eddie Brock was poorly established and rushed.

Even the introduction of the symbiote was poorly done when they could have connected it to JJ's son trip to space, but it randomly fell from the sky and latch onto Peter's bike?

Then there was emo Peter and the dancing...

The action was cool though, but the story was a mess after a perfect sequel.

 

[Chakor]

I just wish that someone would settle on a definite agreement and leave it at that. If Sony and Marvel are just going to keep going back and forth and not settle on anything, then I think someone should put out a restraining order that forbids any studio from making a Spider-Man film.

 

[jye4ever]

Let them fight.

 

[Chakor]

Let them fight.

They should just make a movie about Marvel and Sony fighting.

 

[jye4ever]

We already got that from those hacked emails from Sony.

Man were they awesome.

Clooney is such an ass kisser to those studio bosses.

 

[EVILFACE]

They should just make a movie about Marvel and Sony fighting.

Sony would win, they could troll everyone's bluray....

 

[Snake Plissken]

I never was interested in anything in the MCU, until this... but the fact there is no confidence in a standalone Spidey film without Iron Man made me stay away from this one.

Although Keaton seems like he'll be a good villain.

 

[jye4ever]

Sony would win, they could troll everyone's bluray....

Amy Pascal's face flashing on your tv like the demon from the Exorcist special edition.

 

[SNIKT1950]

there is no confidence in a standalone Spidey film without Iron Man.

This.

Spider-Man is not nor has ever been Stark's protege *****.

Downey has no business being in this movie.

 

[moose]

This.

Spider-Man is not nor has ever been Stark's protege *****.

Downey has no business being in this movie.

Its becoming a farce that they have to include the avengers in every movie and not to mention in a major actions scene. Yeah I get they want to show case that he is inexperienced but how did was that handled in the comics they can have him getting barely wining and the villian escapes and have the public turn against him like they always do.

Its seems marvel has abounded the idea of a stand alone world with the exception on GoG and even they will be part of avengers infinity war.

So who can I expect to show up in Black Panther Winter Solider maybe ?

In the comics they rarely team up all these characters together except in the summer Event comics, yet here they are can't wait to plug them in together one thing I remember the Nolan said that the movies need should be feel complete even when setting up a sequel. His movies ended similar to the original star wars movies with potential sequel yet if the the movie ended on that note it would be fine. Here the movies are basically fancy big budget TV episodes.

 

[Wor-Gar]

they rarely team up all these characters together except in the summer Event comics...

These movies ARE the summer event 'comics'.

Studio thought process: crowded busy trailers = something for everyone = bigger boxoffice

 

[moose]

These movies ARE the summer event 'comics'.

Studio thought process: crowded busy trailers = something for everyone = bigger boxoffice

So every movie is a like a comic event were I have to see every character. Spidy needs to have Tony and Thor needs to have hulk and black panther needs to have winter solider and I could go on and on . GoG was on earth they would have stuck in some avenger in there too .

 

[Wor-Gar]

Apparently so. The old one-offs seem to be dead and now require a visit from an Avenger.

 

[Victοr]

Spider-Man is not nor has ever been Stark's protege *****.

Spoiler

616:

And most importantly:

Ultimate:

You know, for the guy who's always "muh source material", it's astonishing that you're almost always dead-wrong. It's as if you're a... Casual...

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Spoiler

616:

And most importantly:

Ultimate:

You know, for the guy who's always "muh source material", it's astonishing that you're almost always dead-wrong. It's as if you're a... Casual...

Most superhero fans are casuals.

They have no time to read or buy comics.

Still, it's annoying when they use the it's not like the comic books card when is convenient or relevant to their personal taste or bias , yet they defend things that are different from the comics, because they like the movies

I don't read Ultimate Spider-Man, but I watched the cartoon, and he looked up to Tony.

He was basically a fan of the Avengers in that cartoon.

It was weird seeing him just be a kid and a fan, and being treated as such by Cap, Tony, and Thor, when in reality, Spider-Man not only debuted first (before Tony), he's way more popular and famous than the Avengers.

 

[Snake Plissken]

 

[Victοr]

Most superhero fans are casuals.

True, but when someone just goes all "that's not in the comics??!11!11" gets proven wrong and then repeats that day in, day out, it becomes irritating.

They have no time to read or buy comics.

Eh, there are ways. You get an Unlimited Sub, watch out for Comixology Sales, have a small pull list or search around the net.

Still, it's annoying when they use the it's not like the comic books card when is convenient or relevant to their personal taste or bias , yet they defend things that are different from the comics

Exactly this, thank you. A good movie is a good movie. I don't give two ****s whether it follows the exact storyline. All I'm asking is for the characterization to be intact, the costumes to look good, and the relationships between the characters to be in-line with the ones in the source material. If Pete never became Stark's Protege it wouldn't have mattered, but it has happened before in the books, so...

I don't read Ultimate Spider-Man, but I watched the cartoon, and he looked up to Tony.

He was basically a fan of the Avengers in that cartoon.

It was weird seeing him just be a kid and a fan, and being treated as such by Cap, Tony, and Thor, when in reality, Spider-Man not only debuted first, he's way more popular and famous than the Avengers.

Pete always was a fan of the Avengers, both in 616 and in 1610. He always wanted to sit in the Big Boys table. he may have debuted a bit earlier (roughly a year), but he was always younger than all of them, so it makes sense, it's nothing weird or forced. Spider-Man was always the young guy in the wide Marvel-line.

Eh, he'll either just ignore it (like all those other times) or find some ******** reason like "616 Parker was like, grownup and more of a partner" or "the Ultimate instance doesn't count 'cause it wasn't for a long period of time" or something. Not that I care. The source material is there, so...

 

[Snake Plissken]

I vaguely knew of Parker working with Tony and I don't follow the comics at all, just news stories I saw about the Civil War arc.

 

[Victοr]

I vaguely knew of Parker working with Tony and I don't follow the comics at all, just news stories I saw about the Civil War arc.

Yeah, it's pretty well known. The fact that Tony specifically uses the word "protege" in a canon-book, well, that should tell you all you need to know.