Marvel Studios/Sony - SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING

[Khev]

She did deliver it pretty perfectly.

 

[ironwez20]

I will say this though. If they even think of rebooting Spider-Man again I'm fine with the series. They better stick with this for awhile.

 

[jye4ever]

I always find it interesting when you see a flick multiple times, the different reactions of the audience to the same jokes/surprises/etc., and how they differ from crowd to crowd. Sometimes the same things that killed in with one crowd gets crickets with the next, and vice versa.

It's funny because I think of JYE's understandable beef with the porn line, and that was the one line that consistently killed the packed house each of the 4 times I saw this. By far the loudest crowd laugh every time. One time a kid that laughed the loudest sounded so young you just knew he was only laughing to keep up with the crowd, but had no clue what "porn" is . I'm sure it didn't take long for his parents to get the dreaded question



I agree about how they're handling Peter/Spidey. The delivery of the wisecracks in both CW and this felt more on the nose than Maguire and Garfield put together. Hell, his voice is even the best so far IMO. Plenty more aspects are more on the nose than before, but I especially like the real-feel of his age. He's starting out a couple years younger than he did in the last 2 franchises, but he finally feels like the age he's supposed to be. I know this is a big gripe with many older fans that think the movie is too young feeling, but I think it's more accurate than ever. In SM2 when his identity is revealed on the train a guy says, "he's just a kid, no older than my own son". I always thought "yea, if you consider pushing 30 is a kid" LOL. That realization to those witnesses was a powerful part, put I think it would've played more powerfully to us as an audience if it was Holland or someone that youthful looking behind the mask. I still enjoy the Raimi flicks, but this is a more up-to-date overall approach to the genre.

About the suit... I don't mind some of the tech aspects, but I don't love the idea of a V.I. assistant. I hope they scrap Karen going forward. But no average Joe can where that suit like Rhodey. Peter still has super strength, speed, agility, durability and wall climbing that the suit doesn't grant. I did like seeing him use a Spider tracer for the first time on screen

You hit the nail on the head my son only laughed at the porn line because everyone laughed it, I cringed lol

lol@Tobey's age comment

The crowds during my viewings laughed alot, were all shocked during the reveal that Vulture liked dark meat and clapped like hell at the end especially after such an awesome Aunt May scene ending the movie cutting into an awesome colorful credit sequence.

Good, I'm glad it hit you on the first time. I think it'll root even deeper with another watch.

I loved the F, marry, kill line! I think if people with abilities existed, that's something very real you'd hear coming out of a high-schooler's mouth.

F Thor, marry Iron Man, kill Hulk



No clue why! It's a great flick. Don't listen to the naysayers

I'm drawing a blank when was the F word said again, you talking about Aunt May because that was cut out perfectly.

 

[Khev]

I'd be totally fine if Keaton just replaced Goblin as Spidey's main villain and they just camped out on him for another film or two.

 

[Khev]

I'm drawing a blank when was the F word said again

Thankfully we missed it lol

On the bleachers before Liz said she had a crush on Spider-Man the other girls were playing "F$%^, Marry, Kill" with the one girl leading off that she would "eff Thor."

 

[jye4ever]

On the bleachers before Liz said she had a crush on Spider-Man the other girls were playing "F$%^, Marry, Kill" with the one girl leading off that she would "eff Thor."

Holy crap I missed that...twice!

Yeah Keaton needs another go at it.

 

[PopCultKid]

Oh I didn't think that that line was out of place in a high school per se, obviously if the movie was filled with "real" high school speak then it would have been much worse, lol. I just don't ever screen MCU films before taking my kids (like I do with the DCEU and Fox) and sitting there with my 10 year old daughter who knows what that word means was, like I said, definitely an eyebrow raising moment.

Though technically Aunt May's cut off line at the very end was even more obvious.

I see through different lenses because I'm 40 with no kids, but I totally get why you, JYE, and anyone else in that situation would cringe. Even worse if they're too young to understand and ask what it means

And hilarious IMO.

She did deliver it pretty perfectly.

Love it everytime! Makes me want to jump up and fist pump

I'm drawing a blank when was the F word said again, you talking about Aunt May because that was cut out perfectly.

Agghhh you missed a great line! But then again maybe you're kids missed it too, so that's good

 

[Darth Snoopy]

She did deliver it pretty perfectly.

Indeed!

Love it everytime! Makes me want to jump up and fist pump

I LOL louder then my friends and the audience I saw the movie with.

 

[PopCultKid]

I LOL louder then my friends and the audience I saw the movie with.

So perfectly played. And I enjoy the montage over Blitzkrieg Bop just as much as the after credit scenes

 

[Khev]

I also loved that they

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teased two of the worst things ever to happen to Spidey in the comics; him joining the Avengers and publicly revealing his identity in support of Tony Stark only to pull back at the last possible second.

Awesome bait and switch.

 

[Sassafras]

I didn't leave the theater thinking I'd seen an epic 10/10 cbm for the ages but nevertheless but I'm finding myself appreciating more and more about it in retrospect as I continue to digest it.

I'll just throw in I think it's a great film because - like a lot of the MCU - there's stuff I can interpolate later. Which means I'm actually thinking about the movie. E.g. Tony's line about Cap to Peter had me wincing later. Because beneath that comment - later - I thought, well, Tony would know, wouldn't he? (Granted, Bucky was involved in that CW fight, but it was pretty brutal. I mean, in CW I held my breath when Cap looked like he was going to take Tony's head off. I thought I might be seeing a scene where Cap truly loses it.)

Just bits and pieces that come back to me in Homecoming that IMO are so well done. Hafta say, sure, I enjoyed Tom Holland in CW. But now I can see why Tom Holland as chosen. I really felt him being upset and frustrated. Loved the Vulture costume. Just surprised because I thought I'd see something reasonably good. I like all the MCU stuff more or less. Homecoming is a lot more multi-layered than I thought it would be. I thought it would be fun and cheeky but it's more than that without getting bogged down.

And Michael Keaton -

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even that end scene where he denies knowing Peter - perfect. I'd cheer if he showed up in IW somehow. Even if it's just a bit where the prison gets blasted and all the prisoners run for it.

(And coming from a DC house - I don't cheer on the MCU/DC rivalry and all that. Batman is an icon for me. But I wish WB would get a company consultant or something after watching Spiderman and reading now Affleck may bail out.)

 

[spindrift]

Affleck is NOT bailing out cripes this is stupid

 

[PopCultKid]

Forgot to mention the score because I remember it was being weighed against Elfman's in this thread. Elfmans's was (and is) perfect for those movies. It compliments the tone of those films extremely well. I think Giacchino's work fits this movie the same as Elfman's fit Raimi's. Can't say one is better or worse, they both fit perfectly in their appropriate spaces

 

[Sassafras]

Affleck is NOT bailing out cripes this is stupid

*May*... and I don't know it would be so terrible if he did. Lots of good actors around. Not to go OT, but Affleck doesn't seem happy, in general. Tom Holland is overwhelmingly enthusiastic, even RDJ and Chris Evans if and when they leave seem to have mixed feelings which means they have regrets about going, if and when they go. Just sayin' WB still has stuff to work out. Folks can laugh at Sony but was impressed that they apparently were the ones to approach Marvel.

Lots of good has come out of that.

 

[DioramaMaker]

Unconnected to the previous discussion, but I wish that orchestral version of the sixties cartoon theme they used for the Marvel logo had been the main theme for the movie!

I was thinking the same thing during the movie. Giacchino could have pulled it off!

Forgot to mention the score because I remember it was being weighed against Elfman's in this thread. Elfmans's was (and is) perfect for those movies. It compliments the tone of those films extremely well. I think Giacchino's work fits this movie the same as Elfman's fit Raimi's. Can't say one is better or worse, they both fit perfectly in their appropriate spaces

I was pleasantly surprised with Giacchino's score for this. It felt fresh and new. After his near complete imitation of his Star Trek scores for Doctor Strange (huge disappointment, how did he not utilize ethnic instruments from that region?! Uncharted 2 comes to mind as a style), I'm happy to hear he delivered something actually unique.

I still prefer the 2001 Rami score, but that could be a lot of nostalgia speaking - to be fair I can hum that one off the top of my head. But that being said, I have enjoyed Homecoming's final Suite track a lot.

Yep the Homecoming car ride/conversation might be the closest thing the MCU has to a TDK interrogation scene. And Keaton did such a masterful job at playing a multilayered character I halfway wanted Peter to somehow find a way to become friends with him, lol.

I felt physically uncomfortable in that scene - they balanced relatability and narrative importance in it. It both encompassed being a teenager and meeting a girl's father for the first time as well as the shock and awe of Peter's identity being revealed.

Yep, the 3D showing last night was my first viewing of the movie.

I laughed at the porn line but the "F Thor" definitely got a pretty big eyebrow raise from me.

I really cracked up when Glover asked Parker what was with the intimidation voice since he'd already heard him and "knows what a girl sounds like," lol.

While I got a little eye roll out of it, it made me chuckle because it was relatable. That was high school, that's how that clique behaved. They did a pretty solid job of representing pre-2015 high school well. It didn't feel like today's highschoolers, but more when phones started becoming a common thing. I think they wanted their early MCU fans to relate in retrospect to it, so they backed off the modernity of the high school social life a bit.

 

[PopCultKid]

*May*... and I don't know it would be so terrible if he did. Lots of good actors around. Not to go OT, but Affleck doesn't seem happy, in general. Tom Holland is overwhelmingly enthusiastic, even RDJ and Chris Evans if and when they leave seem to have mixed feelings which means they have regrets about going, if and when they go. Just sayin' WB still has stuff to work out. Folks can laugh at Sony but was impressed that they apparently were the ones to approach Marvel.

Lots of good has come out of that.

I don't know how unhappy he is. JYE and others break on "depressed Affleck" but I think what we're seeing is an alcohol problem taking its toll on the face of an aging dude (somehow they make him look better on screen but he looks pretty shot in most interviews). I truly think that's why he looks poorly so often, not because he's unhappy with his involvement or his capacity in this. People may say he's playing politics, but I believe him when he says "I'll stay for as long as WB will have me"

 

[GodzillaSpawn]

Yep, the 3D showing last night was my first viewing of the movie.

I laughed at the porn line but the "F Thor" definitely got a pretty big eyebrow raise from me.

I really cracked up when Glover asked Parker what was with the intimidation voice since he'd already heard him and "knows what a girl sounds like," lol.

I loved Glover's scene. "I got ice cream in there"

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[Khev]

at the ice cream.

Every line we're laughing about has Wor-Gar going

and SNIKT going

 

[jye4ever]

I was pleasantly surprised with Giacchino's score for this. It felt fresh and new. After his near complete imitation of his Star Trek scores for Doctor Strange (huge disappointment, how did he not utilize ethnic instruments from that region?! Uncharted 2 comes to mind as a style), I'm happy to hear he delivered something actually unique.

I still prefer the 2001 Rami score, but that could be a lot of nostalgia speaking - to be fair I can hum that one off the top of my head. But that being said, I have enjoyed Homecoming's final Suite track a lot.



I felt physically uncomfortable in that scene - they balanced relatability and narrative importance in it. It both encompassed being a teenager and meeting a girl's father for the first time as well as the shock and awe of Peter's identity being revealed.



While I got a little eye roll out of it, it made me chuckle because it was relatable. That was high school, that's how that clique behaved. They did a pretty solid job of representing pre-2015 high school well. It didn't feel like today's highschoolers, but more when phones started becoming a common thing. I think they wanted their early MCU fans to relate in retrospect to it, so they backed off the modernity of the high school social life a bit.

Yeah the new score is a pretty fun listen.

I love Stark's theme of when he arrives at the ferry in the middle of the main suite, sounds like angry parent arrival punishment music, Dunn Dunn Dunn..lol

Great point on what was happening to Peter all at once during that house arrival and car ride.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

at the ice cream.

Every line we're laughing about has Wor-Gar going

and SNIKT going

BWAHAHAHA!