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Marvel Studios/Sony - SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING
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They should bring back Tobey Spidey in IW as part of the multiverse. People would love it.
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Leading the funeral procession will be Trash Panda and Ironwez.
pturtle what do you have to say about Spiderman's poor box office performance...
pturtle what do you have to say about Spiderman's poor box office performance...
Probably for the best. CW/Homecoming/IW will have served their purpose in finally bringing Spidey into a world with other Marvel heroes. But if Homecoming underperforms then at least quality-wise solo Spidey movies can end on a relative high note and hopefully the character can be put to rest for 20 or so years. If this had somehow earned a billion then we'd be getting 10 more of the damn things.
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Yup a 1 billion SH = Fat Ned Goblin lol
Yep, and the ever escalating cycle of 2, then 3, then 8 villains per movie, etc.
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jye4ever
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20 years we'll all be connected to the matrix. 
The wealthy get the hot girls.
The non wealthy wil have to contend with the girls you see at the sci-fi-horror movie conventions lol.
The wealthy get the hot girls.
The non wealthy wil have to contend with the girls you see at the sci-fi-horror movie conventions lol.
More like 5 years
20? Not happening. Not even 10.
Well Superman went 19 so you never know. Obviously the superhero bubble would have to burst in the next 5-6 years (which as you said is about when they'd start thinking about doing another Spider-Man) and *then* if that happens we might finally be able to go a good long while with just the existing films representing the character on screen.
Do I really think that the superhero genre only has 5-6 more years? Nah, if anything IW will jumpstart it all over again. But one can hope.
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I think Superman is a unique case. Superman 4 was really bad, and not long after it came out, Batman 89 became a huge hit, so Batman took Sups place as WB's cash cow for the next 10 years, but WB tried bringing back Sups in the 90's with Tim Burton, but for whatever reason they couldn't do it. They also had the tv Superman in the 90's to keep the character relevant.
Sony doesn't have another go to character like Batman, so rebooting Spidey is probably their best choice, even if the "bubble" bursts. Times have changed also, because we're in the golden age of super hero films, so unlike the 90's, most studios probably want to capitalize on the trend. Still, even if the genre collapses or slows down, there are the possible Spider-Man film rights issue, which might force Sony to produce a Spidey film in order to prevent the rights from reverting back to Marvel Studios.
After three cinematic Spider-Man incarnations, I'm surprised that they didn't give up a long time ago. I liked Homecoming, but it's not Raimi Spider-Man or Spider-Man 2 by any means.
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I'm just glad it was fun, and enjoyable. not twilight meets spiderman. not too mention the villain kicks ass.
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That would be pretty cool but while I don't think Homecoming was that popular among the masses, I do think everyone loves Holland as Spider-Man. Tobey didn't really get as much love in the role as he should have. The multiverse idea would be cool, only thing is, I think Raimi's Spiderman is just too good to be in the MCU.
They didn't really have much choice once Raimi dropped out and with him went Tobey and Kirsten. I would have preferred a Spiderman 4 and 5 like they original had planned over everything post Spiderman 3 though.
Leading the funeral procession will be Trash Panda and Ironwez.
pturtle what do you have to say about Spiderman's poor box office performance...
I'm just happy Raimi's original 2 films will remain supreme and this will ensure that Fox will keep the rights to X-Men and F4. That makes me pretty happy I won't lie
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In really liked MovieBob's idea about bringing back Tobey McGuire as a mid-30s Spider-Man in Civil War. At that point he has retired after he realized he was out of his depth while attempting to assist off screen during the battle of Manhattan, and is convinced to return by Tony Stark. Thereby retconning Raimi's films (which are almost perfect in tone and faithfulness to the comics) into the MCU.
The more I think about it, the more I really like that idea. Rather than what we got, which was a overall entertaining yet fairly underwhelming and unfaithful adaptation of the character. Still much better than Garfield's films though, so I'm happy.
The more I think about it, the more I really like that idea. Rather than what we got, which was a overall entertaining yet fairly underwhelming and unfaithful adaptation of the character. Still much better than Garfield's films though, so I'm happy.
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Spider-Man had it rougher then any other franchise except fantastic 4. Rebooted prematurely and had 2 horrible movies that made people tired of the character. No doubt people were wary. The literally had to reinvent some aspect of the character.
It's actually quite sad really considering that spiderman is possibly the most relatable and greatest hero ever. Top 3 heros ever created are superman , Batman and Spider-Man. Spider-Man deserves nothing but quality movies. Now the character literally has to climb up from a ruined rep
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Well Homecoming has already earned more than any MCU film *not* starring Iron Man or the GOTG so there's that.
I know that technically Stark is in Homecoming but in much smaller capacity than IM 1-3, Avengers 1 and 2 and CW. And we've witnessed that time after time audiences follow Stark and the GOTG and not quality. Hence IM2, IM3, AOU, and GOTG2 utterly obliterating TWS at the box office. The only explanation? No Stark or Star-Lord as a main character no audience care.
Sure there's Spidey doing well in previous solo films but that was when he was new and fresh and decent Marvel cbm's period were new and fresh. Remember that both the first two Raimi flicks were not only pre-connected universe but they were both pre-Nolan as well. The law of diminishing returns was bound to kick in sooner or later as a mathematical certainty. Is that the only reason Homecoming didn't break records? No but those are probably the biggest. A long run time and some slightly underwhelming action sequences didn't exactly help but even if it had Russo-esque action I doubt it would have done *that* much better.
I think as the novelty wears off on this genre and audiences feel more and more content with what they've already seen studios are just going to have to be prepared for more and more $600-700 million totals unless it's something crazy like Infinity War.
Same with the new Star Wars. I won't be surprised if TLJ earns less than TFA and RO no matter how good it is.
I know that technically Stark is in Homecoming but in much smaller capacity than IM 1-3, Avengers 1 and 2 and CW. And we've witnessed that time after time audiences follow Stark and the GOTG and not quality. Hence IM2, IM3, AOU, and GOTG2 utterly obliterating TWS at the box office. The only explanation? No Stark or Star-Lord as a main character no audience care.
Sure there's Spidey doing well in previous solo films but that was when he was new and fresh and decent Marvel cbm's period were new and fresh. Remember that both the first two Raimi flicks were not only pre-connected universe but they were both pre-Nolan as well. The law of diminishing returns was bound to kick in sooner or later as a mathematical certainty. Is that the only reason Homecoming didn't break records? No but those are probably the biggest. A long run time and some slightly underwhelming action sequences didn't exactly help but even if it had Russo-esque action I doubt it would have done *that* much better.
I think as the novelty wears off on this genre and audiences feel more and more content with what they've already seen studios are just going to have to be prepared for more and more $600-700 million totals unless it's something crazy like Infinity War.
Same with the new Star Wars. I won't be surprised if TLJ earns less than TFA and RO no matter how good it is.
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