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What u disagree?

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Well Homecoming has already earned more than any MCU film *not* starring Iron Man or the GOTG so there's that.

I know that technically Stark is in Homecoming but in much smaller capacity than IM 1-3, Avengers 1 and 2 and CW. And we've witnessed that time after time audiences follow Stark and the GOTG and not quality. Hence IM2, IM3, AOU, and GOTG2 utterly obliterating TWS at the box office. The only explanation? No Stark or Star-Lord as a main character no audience care.

Or the fact that the prequels to the movies you listed were some of Marvel's best films.

People like first movie = people go see sequel. Its not that the sequel is good. It is that the previous film acted as marketing for the one that follows.
 

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Well Homecoming has already earned more than any MCU film *not* starring Iron Man or the GOTG so there's that.

I know that technically Stark is in Homecoming but in much smaller capacity than IM 1-3, Avengers 1 and 2 and CW. And we've witnessed that time after time audiences follow Stark and the GOTG and not quality. Hence IM2, IM3, AOU, and GOTG2 utterly obliterating TWS at the box office. The only explanation? No Stark or Star-Lord as a main character no audience care.

Sure there's Spidey doing well in previous solo films but that was when he was new and fresh and decent Marvel cbm's period were new and fresh. Remember that both the first two Raimi flicks were not only pre-connected universe but they were both pre-Nolan as well. The law of diminishing returns was bound to kick in sooner or later as a mathematical certainty. Is that the only reason Homecoming didn't break records? No but those are probably the biggest. A long run time and some slightly underwhelming action sequences didn't exactly help but even if it had Russo-esque action I doubt it would have done *that* much better.

I think as the novelty wears off on this genre and audiences feel more and more content with what they've already seen studios are just going to have to be prepared for more and more $600-700 million totals unless it's something crazy like Infinity War.

Same with the new Star Wars. I won't be surprised if TLJ earns less than TFA and RO no matter how good it is.

2 more years of MCU and i'm out.

Hell I don't even know how many Batman's I have left in me.
 
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2 more years of MCU and i'm out.

Hell I don't even know how many Batman's I have left in me.

Yea you say that but they'll drag you back kicking and screaming once they announce that galactus joined the mcu and fox gives up the rights to xmen to focus on avatar movies lmao.
 
The more I think about it, the more I really like that idea. Rather than what we got, which was a overall entertaining yet fairly underwhelming and unfaithful adaptation of the character. Still much better than Garfield's films though, so I'm happy.
Homecoming is the most faithful to the spirit of Spider-Man of all the Spidey films so far. By a pretty wide margin. Though it's true some of the story elements were tweaked.
 
Homecoming is the most faithful to the spirit of Spider-Man of all the Spidey films so far. By a pretty wide margin. Though it's true some of the story elements were tweaked.



What the hell is the "spirit of Spider-Man" and what spirit does Homecoming have that the first Spider-Man from 2002 doesn't.






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The MCU Spider-Man doesn't even have guilt. His motivation is to become an Avenger! :lol
 
Haha, I fully agree. Web wings does not make this comic faithful.

There was pretty much nothing resembling classic Spider man here. Raimi's films nailed it perfectly (even Spider-Man 3 felt right despite its many flaws).

Young Hot Aunt May, goth millenial MJ, nerdy Flash Thompson, Ned, high tech Spider suit. No Daily Bugle or photography even mentioned. Aunt May finding out Peter was Spider-Man (which is a major dramatic character moment) was written off as a last second joke. Holland was a great Peter Parker, but everything else felt like a brand new character; and not worthy of arguably Marvels' most iconic hero.
 
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If you haven't been a dyed in the wool Spidey fan since being a toddler like me, you'll never understand, Bat-boy. :nana:

He behaves as a teenage Spidey should. Not just as Parker, but as Spider-Man. All those little things he does throughout the film--his friendships, the way he fights, the way he struggles with adversity, his attitude--add up to the most fulfilling version of Spidey so far. Yes, Spidey 2 is a terrific film, and Tobey did a really good job as Parker. And of course, the motivation was best fleshed out by that version of Spidey. But Raimi never did the fun-loving, joke cracking, and ultimately, "street-level" Spidey the way he deserves. There was a stilted, and even surrealistic quality to the Raimi films. Part of that is his style. Part of that may have been a sign of the times. But it was there. The Spidey action scenes were usually pretty lacking. That wasn't evident here. I loved the opening scene in Amazing Spider-Man 2. And at the time, wished they would have somehow expanded that into a full length film instead of going way off the rails as they did, in terms of how Spidey (not Parker, who never made sense to me in the Garfield films) was represented. This film is, essentially that. The stakes aren't world shattering. The story isn't overly convoluted. There is an air of real freshness and fun to the whole thing. That's not all that Spidey is. But it is the core spirit of the character. That distinguishes him from Batman, and Captain America, and the bulk of other well known comic characters out there. Guilt isn't distinctive to Spidey, and isn't always on the surface in Spidey's stories frankly, so it's no huge loss that they don't beat us over the head with that. . .again. . .here. This film mashed together a great version of Peter, and a great version of Spidey, and did so much better than the other films. And I'm really optimistic about the future of the character and franchise as a result.
 
Haha, I fully agree. Web wings does not make this comic faithful.

There was pretty much nothing resembling classic Spider man here. Raimi's films nailed it perfectly (even Spider-Man 3 felt right despite its many flaws).

Young Hot Aunt May, goth millenial MJ, nerdy Flash Thompson, Ned, high tech Spider suit. No Daily Planet or photography even mentioned. Holland was a great Peter Parker, but everything else was a mess.



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If we got the same thing people would whine that it's the same thing over again. It happened with Garfield
 
The armpit webbing doesn't mean much to me, but unlike some of you, I'm not hung up on the superficialities. So Flash Thompson and Aunt May are different? So Spidey's not working for JJJ taking photos nowadays? Who cares? If that's all you want, the great news is that you have all those old Raimi films to fall back on. Something out there for everyone now.
 
I don't care if the Raimi Spidey is faithful to those dated, poorly written 60's comics, or if HC Spidey deviates from the comics too with his inspector gadget suit and PC friends. They all get some things right, and they work as films.

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Saw this again, and it was just as good (not better but not worse). Noticed more of the Easter eggs. Definitely wished Shocker was a little more developed. But Scorpion will be awesome!
 
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