If you haven't been a dyed in the wool Spidey fan since being a toddler like me, you'll never understand, Bat-boy.
He behaves as a teenage Spidey should. Not just as Parker, but as Spider-Man. All those little things he does throughout the film--his friendships, the way he fights, the way he struggles with adversity, his attitude--add up to the most fulfilling version of Spidey so far. Yes, Spidey 2 is a terrific film, and Tobey did a really good job as Parker. And of course, the motivation was best fleshed out by that version of Spidey. But Raimi never did the fun-loving, joke cracking, and ultimately, "street-level" Spidey the way he deserves. There was a stilted, and even surrealistic quality to the Raimi films. Part of that is his style. Part of that may have been a sign of the times. But it was there. The Spidey action scenes were usually pretty lacking. That wasn't evident here. I loved the opening scene in Amazing Spider-Man 2. And at the time, wished they would have somehow expanded that into a full length film instead of going way off the rails as they did, in terms of how Spidey (not Parker, who never made sense to me in the Garfield films) was represented. This film is, essentially that. The stakes aren't world shattering. The story isn't overly convoluted. There is an air of real freshness and fun to the whole thing. That's not all that Spidey is. But it is the core spirit of the character. That distinguishes him from Batman, and Captain America, and the bulk of other well known comic characters out there. Guilt isn't novel, and isn't always on the surface in Spidey's stories frankly, so it's no huge loss that they don't beat us over the head with that. . .again. . .here. This film mashed together a great version of Peter, and a great version of Spidey, and did so much better than the other films. And I'm really optimistic about the future of the character and franchise as a result.
What the **** is this ****? The new DiFabio? Learn how to disagree like the above post when discussing Star Wars and you might actually be an interesting fellow worth keeping around, like Cassian Andor in RO.
Nah, waste of time. My arguments and posts against it will just get deleted when no one is looking after a couple of days.
You're right. Overall each of these elements are minor. But when every single one of these minor elements are changed, they add up to basically a brand new character.
Nah, waste of time. My arguments and posts against it will just get deleted when no one is looking after a couple of days.
But still, just sayin'.
Fixed
Well, I'm reasonably sure we're going to hear about Ben, and get JJJ in the next Spidey film, anyway. Some of this we just haven't seen.
Yeah right. You know you could totally be one of the top "grab a beer and talk movies with" guys here if you didn't try to troll and derail threads so much. Yeah I'm going there with tough love right here in the thread. You don't have to like a single freaking movie that comes out and you can go off about what you hate in SW, the MCU, and all of that like so many people here do or *like you just did about Homecoming* with karamazov.
Some of us are going to be superfans about whatever and yeah you can call it out if we can't shut up about it in every other thread (lol, I get it guys, I get it) but why try to make people who have loved this crap their whole lives feel like they're wasting their time trying to discuss this stuff? I'm just making general observations on past behavior here. Some of your roasts are hilariously entertaining, and some of your praise is damn spot on and insightful, but then there's this whole other side where you just piss on everything and do your whole "sowing discord" shtick. Come on now, all of these threads should be big enough for everyone here and the entire gamut of opinions from positive to negative without certain people trying to bring the enthusiasm in a thread way down every time they're in the mood.
And you know I haven't censored any of your opinions on Star Wars. But **** with my Felicity pic and yeah I'll cut that **** down. You know she's my girl, on and off screen! Okay maybe not off, she did just get engaged but hey, we'll always have 10 seconds in Orlando, lol. I'm trying to be funny here, and I'm trying to be light, but it's just going to be this big elephant in the room where if people just can't treat everyone else like bros and just be decent and respectful then it's that scene in Heat that I've referenced before. "Now that we're sitting here face to face like a couple of regular guys, then if I have to take you down I'm not gonna like it."
And I realize that at the end of the day I'm just another guy who wants to talk shop about movies so as a mod I try to recognize my own shortcomings, pick and choose my battles, and all that. It honestly kind of bums me out that I didn't see the version of you above where you just listened to karamazov's points, refuted some, acknowledged and agreed with others and so on back when we were having our big Rogue One back and forths (<--there you go Clown Prince I know you were waiting for that, lol) but...I'll get over it. I'll get over it. Really I will
And with that let me give a semi-optimistic
Though maybe things have changed with the "millennial" generation.I agree with you on that. A very Spidey-esque ending, apparently soon to be undone for the greater good of making Kevin Feige happy.
