Marvel Studios/Sony - SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING

[jye4ever]

I always thought Goblin stabbed himself in the ****.

Yeah that's what I meant he died while being sneaky lol.

 

[Khev]

Well I mean yeah, just calling it like it is. "Wow Logan didn't suck, who'da thunk" is pretty much the most positive thing he's said about any movie ever, lol.

 

[DiFabio]

People have left the site on account of not being able to really have a discussion without their opinions being stomped on or always having to watch a positive discussion go sideways so that "trolls" (<--or whatever you want to call them) can have their fun.

We just need balance and timing is a big part of that. Believe me, I'm not trying to say that this has to be a site of nothing but sunshine and rainbows. Or no humor or sarcasm. The best way to trash a movie or do some epic and hilarious roast is to do it when either the thread is losing steam or if it really appears that no one is trying to discuss the positive sides of a movie. I think if people are trying to be positive then they have just as much of a right to NOT have their discussion crapped on as anyone who wants to make jokes or rip something apart.

And since we don't have "Homecoming the Positive Thread" and "Homecoming the Negative Thread" the best way to go about having discussions is to either take turns with haters letting fanboys having their say while naysayers get to post negative reviews without being attacked as well. And if you don't want to take turns because a movie just came out and everyone wants to talk about it NOW (like with Homecoming) then both sides just need to be civil and respectful of the other.

Really it's just basic kindergarten playground stuff that people really shouldn't have a problem with. You want to post a stupid RLM video in the RO thread right now? Go ahead. Or roast Skull Island? Have at it as those discussions have simmered and bumping those threads isn't derailing anything. But there's no need to go that route right now in this thread for instance. People should be free to have their say on both sides and yes that includes predominantly negative folks like DiFabio and/or SNIKT or whatever.

So in summary:

1. You can roast a movie, but don't only do it when people are trying to discuss what they liked.
2. If someone strategically chooses a window to roast a film that was not interrupting a cordial and/or positive discussion then said roast deserves to be left alone or laughed at without THAT person being attacked.
3. If both sides want to talk simultaneously then everyone should give respectful leeway to the other.

I don't see how the above stifles discussion or ostracizes any one person or set of opinions because our goal here is just the opposite. Encourage discussion with everyone feeling like they can contribute without a few people taking over a thread by stomping on whatever anyone wants to say.

This is nonsense. I wouldn't expect any member on this site to follow this sort of criteria.

And SNIKT, "predominately negative"? Dude can't even give a mediocre movie a low score and is constantly praising movies and directors in the most positive light (to the point where mods mock him and change thread titles for weeks). The only thing he's cynical about is Disney stuff, but even then he's still enthusiastic and cheery about it. The guy loves Nolan and thinks he can do no wrong (much to my annoyance), yet there are mods saying he's being too positive with his unequivocal praise.

Just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean they're trolling. The threadcrapping thing is nonsense and it's not going to last. There are no good guys or bad guys. People just disagree.





If you want an echo chamber where only positive opinions are allowed, go make a thread or a group for it. As long as people are following the rules and being civil to each other, there shouldn't be any guidelines to what they can and can't post (at whatever time you see fit).

 

[Khev]

Was Vulture even trying to kill Peter on the beach, I don't think so.

He really didn't want to kill Peter at all, I got the impression that he was even fine with him dating his daughter so long as he stood out of his way. Kind of an awesome take on a "supervillain" IMO.

 

[jye4ever]

Well I mean yeah, just calling it like it is. "Wow Logan didn't suck, who'da thunk" is pretty much the most positive thing he's said about any movie ever, lol.

Now when I jump my car battery i'll always see this.



lol

But I have to agree with DiFabio I think people should be allowed to tackle opinions head on let the strongest one win lol.

He really didn't want to kill Peter at all, I got the impression that he was even fine with him dating his daughter so long as he stood out of his way. Kind of an awesome take on a "supervillain" IMO.

Yeah that's pretty crazy when you think about it.

 

[Khev]

This is nonsense. I wouldn't expect any member on this site to follow this sort of criteria.

Except that pretty much everybody does (SNIKT included!) except you and a couple others. So if you don't like it, too bad.

As long as people are following the rules and being civil to each other, there shouldn't be any guidelines to what they can and can't post (at whatever time you see fit).

Yes and I literally said as much. I'm not sure why you insist on playing the part of the difficult child in elementary school because you do seem to be smarter than that. And you say the sentence above but I often *don't* see you being civil or respectful of others' opinions. I don't think I can spell it out anymore than I have at this point. Go ahead and continue to openly complain and whine even when someone is going out of their way to help you not have your posts deleted or worse. Those are the rules, if you want to actively fight against them because you disagree then hey have at it.

You sleep in the bed that you make for yourself.

"Khev censors posts he doesn't agree with" is complete bull***. What was the positive to negative ratio on RO? 60/40 in favor of? That's still a lot of negative. How many people thought it was just fan service or boring or had uninteresting characters or whatever. Quite a few actually. Did they get their posts deleted or infracted? Hell no. They had their say just like everyone else. So put on your big boy pants DiFabio and quit being such a baby when it comes to playing nice with others.

 

[crows]

Hating any movie is fine as long as it doesn't translate to simply trolling the threads dedicated to those films anytime someone says something positive. There's definitely a difference.

SNIKT1950 speaks his mind openly and frequently about what he likes and doesn't like but notice he isn't here stinking up the Homecoming thread nor did he do so with RO or any other movie he didn't like. Can he post negative opinions in this thread? Of course and people are doing so right now in fact. But it's a respectful back and forth without trolling for the sake of trolling or trashing a movie as way of increasing your rep as a badass keyboard commando or whatever.

Trolling a movie doesnt have to be negative stuff only.
You can very easily troll a movie thread with overly positive stuff. I have seen it before.

Imagine if i went to the EMOJI movie thread and started praising the hell out of it and started to say it deserves oscars and started to attack anyone that hates on the emoji movie.
Imagine if i spent ALL day arguing with evilface about how amazing emoji movie is... how it captures the human experience perfectly or how it transcends generationsand the movie can be touching for grown ups and kids.


Imagine if i said people were grumpy old farts for hating on the emoji movie while singing it praises... how would tgat not be the same? Trolling to piss people off?
Thats even WORSE than negative trolling in a way. Because it is disguised as love for the movie

I cannot, just cannot believe that you mention snkit as a good example of a member posting. He has been trolling the everloving hell out of ironwez in the venom thread....
But because snikt is overly positive hes not trolling?
No way thats not trolling. I dont even dislike snikt. I always laugh at how far he goes with his posts, i mock snikt but i dont dislike him. He makes threads funny sometimes because of how far he goes with the positivity. But you can definitely troll by being positive. It is just harder to do. Its easier to be negative but it is sneakier to troll positively. It can definitely be done to piss someone off

People have left the site on account of not being able to really have a discussion without their opinions being stomped on or always having to watch a positive discussion go sideways so that "trolls" (<--or whatever you want to call them) can have their fun.

We just need balance and timing is a big part of that. Believe me, I'm not trying to say that this has to be a site of nothing but sunshine and rainbows. Or no humor or sarcasm. The best way to trash a movie or do some epic and hilarious roast is to do it when either the thread is losing steam or if it really appears that no one is trying to discuss the positive sides of a movie. I think if people are trying to be positive then they have just as much of a right to NOT have their discussion crapped on as anyone who wants to make jokes or rip something apart.

And since we don't have "Homecoming the Positive Thread" and "Homecoming the Negative Thread" the best way to go about having discussions is to either take turns with haters letting fanboys having their say while naysayers get to post negative reviews without being attacked as well. And if you don't want to take turns because a movie just came out and everyone wants to talk about it NOW (like with Homecoming) then both sides just need to be civil and respectful of the other.

Really it's just basic kindergarten playground stuff that people really shouldn't have a problem with. You want to post a stupid RLM video in the RO thread right now? Go ahead. Or roast Skull Island? Have at it as those discussions have simmered and bumping those threads isn't derailing anything. But there's no need to go that route right now in this thread for instance. People should be free to have their say on both sides and yes that includes predominantly negative folks like DiFabio and/or SNIKT or whatever.

So in summary:

1. You can roast a movie, but don't only do it when people are trying to discuss what they liked.
2. If someone strategically chooses a window to roast a film that was not interrupting a cordial and/or positive discussion then said roast deserves to be left alone or laughed at without THAT person being attacked.
3. If both sides want to talk simultaneously then everyone should give respectful leeway to the other.

I don't see how the above stifles discussion or ostracizes any one person or set of opinions because our goal here is just the opposite. Encourage discussion with everyone feeling like they can contribute without a few people taking over a thread by stomping on whatever anyone wants to say.

But how can u really know when it is a good time to roast a movie?
When can u know a movie is losing steam?
How can u even tell it is an appropriate time for jokes? Sometimes i wanna joke with jye but i dont becausr of threadcrapping but then i see you guys joke while serious conversation is giong on.... i really cant tell when it is a goid time or not.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I miss the days when this ----> meant the end of a discussion. What have we become?

 

[crows]

I miss the days when this ----> meant the end of a discussion. What have we become?

Callate chico

 

[DiFabio]

Except that pretty much everybody does (SNIKT included!) except you and a couple others. So if you don't like it, too bad.



Yes and I literally said as much. I'm not sure why you insist on playing the part of the difficult child in elementary school because you do seem to be smarter than that. And you say the sentence above but I often *don't* see you being civil or respectful of others' opinions. I don't think I can spell it out anymore than I have at this point. Go ahead and continue to openly complain and whine even when someone is going out of their way to help you not have your posts deleted or worse. Those are the rules, if you want to actively fight against them because you disagree then hey have at it.

You sleep in the bed that you make for yourself.

"Khev censors posts he doesn't agree with" is complete bull***. What was the positive to negative ratio on RO? 60/40 in favor of? How many people thought it was just fan service or boring, or had uninteresting characters or whatever. Quite a few actually. Did they get their posts deleted or infracted? Hell no. They had their say just like everyone else. So put on your big boy pants DiFabio and quit being such a baby when it comes to playing nice with others.

All I know is, I was having a civil discussion with another member about the spirit of Spider-Man and you jumped on my case with little jabs trying to provoke me. It's okay though.

I know how bad you and some of the mods want me gone, so feel free to continue goading me. I honestly don't mind because I'll actually be able to keep my composure. If you have a problem with the way I post, feel free to send me a transcript with corrections of what you think I should and shouldn't include and I'll make the edits.


Anyway, I enjoyed Spider-Man: Homecoming. So there's a positive. My apologies if I'm not doubling down on my praise for it in all the threads. From now on I'll try and be as jolly as ever!

 

[crows]

All I know is, I was having a civil discussion with another member about the spirit of Spider-Man and you jumped on my case with little jabs trying to provoke me. It's okay though.

I know how bad you and some of the mods want me gone, so feel free to continue goading me. I honestly don't mind because I'll actually be able to keep my composure and I like the attention. If you have a problem with the way I post, feel free to send me a transcript with corrections of what you think I should and shouldn't include and I'll make the edits.


Anyway, I enjoyed Spider-Man: Homecoming. So there's a positive. My apologies if I'm not doubling down on my praise for it in all the threads. From now on I'll try and be as jolly as ever!

I can help u be jolly, i know a guy. Hes got some powerful stuff

 

[jye4ever]

I can help u be jolly, i know a guy. Hes got some powerful stuff

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[crows]

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Hes got something in his pants thatll get u jolly for sure
12 inch candy cane

 

[jye4ever]

lolololololol

Quick best KR movie!

 

[jye4ever]

Holy crap those were my 2 picks!

 

[Chakor]

Leave it to Spider-Man to bring out the best in people.

 

[snoop101]

Speed for sure. Point break is awesome too.

 

[jye4ever]

Speed it is lol

 

[Khev]

But how can u really know when it is a good time to roast a movie?
When can u know a movie is losing steam?

Well when you roast a movie don't LOOK like you're trying to roast a movie. I don't know, post casual.

All 90% of you have to do is just what you're already doing. Threadcrapping and trolling just isn't something that most people do which is why most of you guys aren't complaining about it. Pretty much everybody hated Kong: Skull Island and so that thread was predominantly negative reviews. But Maulfan still got to say his piece about what he liked without being mocked or having his posts ridiculed. So no thread has to be all sunshine and roses which I've said time and time again. No thread *is* sunshine and roses, not this one, not Rogue One or even the beloved Logan. But obviously there are those who want free reign to just flat out troll threads for their own amusement and rather than maturely saying "my bad, this site isn't just about me" and toning down their behavior they want to play victim and act like I'm just picking and choosing favorites, deleting opinions left and right that I disagree with, which of course is all nonsense. If you're going to turn deaf ears to "feel free to be negative, just do so with respect for those you're talking to" then so be it.

I literally typed entire paragraphs where I called out DiFabio for the positive contributions he makes to the board *when he chooses to* and yet all he hears is that I'm abusing my power or that I have it in for him or whatever.

How can u even tell it is an appropriate time for jokes? Sometimes i wanna joke with jye but i dont becausr of threadcrapping but then i see you guys joke while serious conversation is giong on.... i really cant tell when it is a goid time or not.

Just ask yourself why you're joking. If the answer is "to piss people off" or to kill the enthusiasm of others then you shouldn't do it. If your joke is for pretty much *any other reason* then I say go for it. The less chronic of an abuser you are the longer leash you'll get but some people have proven time and time again that they need to be reigned in since they won't do it themselves.

Anyway, back to Spider-Man or Speed or whatever. Most of you didn't need to hear any of this but for those that did now you get to decide for yourself how you want to go from here.

 

[crows]

lolololololol

Quick best KR movie!

Co....con.....constantine

Well when you roast a movie don't LOOK like you're trying to roast a movie. I don't know, post casual.

All 90% of you have to do is just what you're already doing. Threadcrapping and trolling just isn't something that most people do which is why most of you guys aren't complaining about it. Pretty much everybody hated Kong: Skull Island and so that thread was predominantly negative reviews. But Maulfan still got to say his piece about what he liked without being mocked or having his posts ridiculed. So no thread has to be all sunshine and roses which I've said time and time again. No thread *is* sunshine and roses, not this one, not Rogue one or even the beloved Logan. But obviously there are those who want free reign to just flat out troll threads for their own amusement and rather than maturely saying "my bad, this site isn't just about me" and toning down their behavior they want to play victim and act like I'm just picking and choosing favorites, deleting opinions left and right that I disagree with, which of course is all nonsense. If you're going to turn deaf ears to "feel free to be negative, just do so with respect for those you're talking to" then so be it.

I literally typed entire paragraphs where I called out DiFabio for the positive contributions he makes to the board *when he chooses to* and yet all he hears is that I'm abusing my power or that I have it in for him or whatever.



Just ask yourself why you're joking. If the answer is "to piss people off" or to kill the enthusiasm of others then you shouldn't do it. If your joke is for pretty much *any other reason* then I say go for it. The less chronic of an abuser you are the longer leash you'll get but some people have proven time and time again that they need to be reigned in since they won't do it themselves.

Anyway, back to Spider-Man or Speed or whatever. Most of you didn't need to hear any of this but for those that did now you get to decide for yourself how you want to go from here.

Ok, i see it
But snikt DOES troll the hell out of people lol. Hes driving ironwez mad.
I dont even think he even believes what he says. And he DOES piss people off with his positivity