Marvel Studios/Sony - SPIDER-MAN: HOMECOMING

[Sassafras]

I guess I'm in the minority in thinking homecoming was a bit of a turd, ranking 'up' there with the Garfield disasters for a few reasons.

Spiderman was always my favourite hero he always had a air of realism and the source material was fantastic making spiderman who he is.

Things like Flash Thompson, the school jock/ bully who physically bullied peter as well as verbally this instilled a deep seated dislike of bullies and one reason why he will always stand up for the little guy, Flash as a fat little kid whos on the school quiz team, just doesn't work.

Then there's the whole aunt may/uncle Ben story arc, that's what drives him he could have saved Ben had he acted but he didn't thus not only causing his death but also depriving his aunt of her life long partner, the guilt of that, the remorse give him purpose.

In homecoming aunt may come across more as a 'oh well lets not cry over spilt milk: internet dating, singles bar good time girl' while Spiderman is just an Avengers wannabe.

Then theres the fat kid sidekick who he didn't see in that tiny room, the stupid 'super suit' that just seems to negate the whole point of spiderman, the super smart science parker who takes apart a alien gizmo with a hammer! Please, I realise Marvel were going for a reboot but did they really have to change quite so much?

I think they strayed way to far from what makes Spiderman, Spiderman and on the whole I found it most disappointing and personally even the Thor trailers are better than Homecoming.

Read similar comments on other boards but - that's the thing - it's folks who REALLY know the comics who seem to be the most upset. 'Coz the source material really means something. But that's the thing - speakin' as a non Spidey fan (who feels OK about the character, just not a fav) it gets too much. E.g. ordinary folks like me were already Spidey-saturated, srsly. Because those movies would come out and like Batman and SW every store has its Spidey bed sheets and mugs and cereal and whatever in your face, on top of the movie ads.

From a movie-watcher perspective - Spidey gets bullied? Don't care, he was sort of a geek in those other Spidey movies, and anyway I already bled for poor Cap getting picked on in the First Avenger (Cap's got that covered, re not liking bullies for a good reason). Uncle Ben? Oh no, not again, didn't we just do this and in Batman too? Spidey's a brilliant teenager? Whoops, caught that in Iron Man.

E.g., re the films if you are NOT a big Spidey fan and the source material doesn't have personal meaning I was 1)PO'd they were even doing a solo Spidey movie when IMO Black Widow/WS/Hawkeye etc. whoever deserve it more and IMO would be a lot more interesting; and 2) Kind of dreaded watching it - which I was gonna 'coz it's the MCU - but I couldn't get all those other Spideys out of my head and I REALLY didn't want to sit through "this stuff" again. Not a shrieking, complaining, Mary Jane (who seems more like a pain in the *ss to me in the Tobey movies) and the crying and I dunno - can't even remember the other Spidey films.

Can understand why folks who really know and love the source material would be unhappy (tho I'm OK with the changes to Cap's arc, depending) but IMO Feige & co. had to do SOMETHING to make this work, or it would be an *unacceptable* MCU bomb. For me, I was surprised at how "fresh" Homecoming felt. IMO surprising depth and the relationship with Mae and Tony Stark nicely handled. Honestly I also felt RELIEVED. And Tom Holland was IMO really good.

So hope if nothing else even if comic Spidey fans aren't happy at least an IMO risky move on Marvel's part paid off. It leaves the door open for more Spidey vs. thinking of the character as box office poison.

 

[Khev]

Then theres the fat kid sidekick who he didn't see in that tiny room,

 

[Captain Clown]

 

[ironwez20]

Read similar comments on other boards but - that's the thing - it's folks who REALLY know the comics who seem to be the most upset. 'Coz the source material really means something. But that's the thing - speakin' as a non Spidey fan (who feels OK about the character, just not a fav) it gets too much. E.g. ordinary folks like me were already Spidey-saturated, srsly. Because those movies would come out and like Batman and SW every store has its Spidey bed sheets and mugs and cereal and whatever in your face, on top of the movie ads.

From a movie-watcher perspective - Spidey gets bullied? Don't care, he was sort of a geek in those other Spidey movies, and anyway I already bled for poor Cap getting picked on in the First Avenger (Cap's got that covered, re not liking bullies for a good reason). Uncle Ben? Oh no, not again, didn't we just do this and in Batman too? Spidey's a brilliant teenager? Whoops, caught that in Iron Man.

E.g., re the films if you are NOT a big Spidey fan and the source material doesn't have personal meaning I was 1)PO'd they were even doing a solo Spidey movie when IMO Black Widow/WS/Hawkeye etc. whoever deserve it more and IMO would be a lot more interesting; and 2) Kind of dreaded watching it - which I was gonna 'coz it's the MCU - but I couldn't get all those other Spideys out of my head and I REALLY didn't want to sit through "this stuff" again. Not a shrieking, complaining, Mary Jane (who seems more like a pain in the *ss to me in the Tobey movies) and the crying and I dunno - can't even remember the other Spidey films.

Can understand why folks who really know and love the source material would be unhappy (tho I'm OK with the changes to Cap's arc, depending) but IMO Feige & co. had to do SOMETHING to make this work, or it would be an *unacceptable* MCU bomb. For me, I was surprised at how "fresh" Homecoming felt. IMO surprising depth and the relationship with Mae and Tony Stark nicely handled. Honestly I also felt RELIEVED. And Tom Holland was IMO really good.

So hope if nothing else even if comic Spidey fans aren't happy at least an IMO risky move on Marvel's part paid off. It leaves the door open for more Spidey vs. thinking of the character as box office poison.

They made a Spider-Man movie cause Spider-Man is marvel. Spider-Man is the most relatable and marketable superhero ever. Nobody cares about hawkeye or black widow . Spidey sells and always will. I don't like all the changes made either but they wanted to get spidey in the mcu cause and Sony put damage on his reputation so they needed to rework him.

Marvel wanted Spider-Man from the get go. Without spidey we wouldn't even have infinity war or all these avengers movies. Xmen and Spider-Man started this superhero movie train.

Also since when was stark ever a brilliant teenager? Peter and him and way different. Make no mistake it was Downey jr who brought life to that character. Let's see how long he last when he's gone.

 

[Khev]

I'm surprised to see that this movie is still chugging along in the Top 10 every week and that even now it's still in first run theaters. It has surpassed the worldwide BO of ASM2 and needs another $10 million to top ASM1.

 

[Thomascrown17]

I'm surprised to see that this movie is still chugging along in the Top 10 every week and that even now it's still in first run theaters. It has surpassed the worldwide BO of ASM2 and needs another $10 million to top ASM1.

Forbes has it making approx or more than 100 mil in China with a final run at about 830-860 min world wide


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[jye4ever]

Yeah China is going to push this movie over the line into the success side, Feige reputation was saved lol.

Disney even told China that a scene from the sequel might be filmed in China.

 

[Khev]

Yep Feige lives again, lol. I wonder which Disney mastermind producer will fail first, Feige or Kennedy. I'm guessing Kennedy with HS.

 

[Thomascrown17]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottm...ming-is-the-biggest-reboot-ever/#7351bdea7983


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[punisher1974]

Hmm you may be right but Solo may be successful. I am looking forward to the Kenobi movie as that one could be really good. Hope Ewan reprises the role

 

[chewblacca]

I'm hoping the sequel will be better. Homecoming was an ok Spidey movie but it could have been a lot better if they offered more fan service. They didn't even mention uncle Ben, and they could have done a wicked fight scene between Spidey and the Vulture in the amusement park.

 

[Thomascrown17]

I'm hoping the sequel will be better. Homecoming was an ok Spidey movie but it could have been a lot better if they offered more fan service. They didn't even mention uncle Ben, and they could have done a wicked fight scene between Spidey and the Vulture in the amusement park.

Honestly i didn't mind not mentioning uncle ben. Been there done that. I do agree we about the fight scene


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[EVILFACE]

But Blackmasks Blonde Raccoon said this movie was a failure.

 

[CallMeTheDoctor]

After seeing It, I think Sophia Lillis could be a solid Mary Jane. Or Bella Thorne.

 

[jye4ever]

Ok so now only Spiderman 3 has grossed more than Homecoming by 37 million which means Homecoming can still beat it to become highest grossing Spiderman movie ever.

Trash Panda won this one.

I lost.

What a turn around.

 

[crows]

But Blackmasks Blonde Raccoon said this movie was a failure.

you watch it boy ....

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Jye

Panda

 

[jye4ever]

lololololol

 

[ironwez20]

Hell yea! Love to see spidey do well

 

[Sweet Rabbit]