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[cr0w]

COUGH*bullsh**COUGH. i am a HUGE batman fan, just got done watching B89 for the zillioneth time. i have yet to find anything wrong with the film besides nicholsons belly, and even then thats a small complaint. everyone was perfect, production design was fantastic, very entertaining even all these years later. anyone who says its not batman is either blind or just plain ignorant. saying its not your style is one thing. saying it fails as a batman film is completely false. nolan got more wrong then burton. ALOT more wrong. plus, his movies just arent fun! and take themselves way too seriously.

Not going to tell you your opinion's wrong, because obviously it's not. You like them, probably for the same reasons I dislike them.

They just felt, to me, like Tim Burton movies with Batman casually wandering into a scene here and there. I can't stand Nicholson's Joker, mainly because there was no characterization there. It was Jack turned up to 11. I don't see Joker, I see Jack on a coke binge. Never liked his turn as Joker, even when I was seeing it on opening night back in '89.

The reasons I say it fails as a Batman film are a.) Batman kills dozens, if not hundreds of goons willy-nilly when he blows up the Axis Chemical Plant, b.) The retcon of Napier being the person that killed Bruce's parents completely destroys Batman's never being able to get justice for his parents, which fuels his need to become Batman in the first place, c.) The above-mentioned lack of characterization for The Joker, d.) The pussification of Commissioner Gordon, he was a complete non-factor in the entire series, e.) Gotham, instead of being a real, living city, being turned into a gothic, monolithic soundstage, f.) The Prince soundtrack, g.) The complete lack of Batman being any sort of physical presence, h.) Batman's willing murder of Joker at the end, i.) Billy Dee Williams as Harvey Dent....

I could go on and on. I mean, I'm not a Tim Burton fan at all, which probably influences my feelings on the movie, but I've always thought it was a boring, drab, completely wrong take on the characters, and nothing will ever change that. There was no respect whatsoever for the source material, the pop culture tie-ins were just completely ill-advised, and there really wasn't one likable character in the films Burton directed. The only thing I've ever liked about them was the Batsuit in the first one. Everything else I would burn if given the chance.

 

[swiftlikessharpthings]

Wow, some heated debate on the bat-films going on. I grew up liking everything Batman, even the re-runs of the camp of the Adam West show, but as time wore on, I've grown out of a lot of the nonsense affiliated with Bats over the last forty years and just come to pick and choose what I like. It's all different strokes, kids. One of my best friends still maintains that Keaton was the best Batman and Bruce Wayne, to which I, of course, disagree. But then in my opinion, the best representaion of Batman outside the comics was BTAS all the way through Justice League, and even some of that stuff doesn't hold up well over time for me (the robot-making computer, the Riddler's video game maze of death to name a couple). Shall we all agree to disagree and move on to talking about how awesome these figures are?

 

[EdwardNashton1]

Not going to tell you your opinion's wrong, because obviously it's not. You like them, probably for the same reasons I dislike them.

They just felt, to me, like Tim Burton movies with Batman casually wandering into a scene here and there. I can't stand Nicholson's Joker, mainly because there was no characterization there. It was Jack turned up to 11. I don't see Joker, I see Jack on a coke binge. Never liked his turn as Joker, even when I was seeing it on opening night back in '89.

The reasons I say it fails as a Batman film are a.) Batman kills dozens, if not hundreds of goons willy-nilly when he blows up the Axis Chemical Plant, b.) The retcon of Napier being the person that killed Bruce's parents completely destroys Batman's never being able to get justice for his parents, which fuels his need to become Batman in the first place, c.) The above-mentioned lack of characterization for The Joker, d.) The pussification of Commissioner Gordon, he was a complete non-factor in the entire series, e.) Gotham, instead of being a real, living city, being turned into a gothic, monolithic soundstage, f.) The Prince soundtrack, g.) The complete lack of Batman being any sort of physical presence, h.) Batman's willing murder of Joker at the end, i.) Billy Dee Williams as Harvey Dent....

I could go on and on. I mean, I'm not a Tim Burton fan at all, which probably influences my feelings on the movie, but I've always thought it was a boring, drab, completely wrong take on the characters, and nothing will ever change that. There was no respect whatsoever for the source material, the pop culture tie-ins were just completely ill-advised, and there really wasn't one likable character in the films Burton directed. The only thing I've ever liked about them was the Batsuit in the first one. Everything else I would burn if given the chance.

QFT

 

[Kal-El]

stay on topic.

 

[cr0w]

Yeah sorry, I kind of get animated when it comes to Burton's Batman.

 

[klocket]

Yeah sorry, I kind of get animated when it comes to Burton's Batman.

If by "animated" you mean "wrong?"...then yeah, i can see that.

M.

 

[klocket]

Does anyone have pics of the custom Trenchcoat Joker using The Question pieces?

On a side note, It's great to see wave 10 be affordable on ebay...take that hoarders/scalpers!

M.

 

[EdwardNashton1]

If by "animated" you mean "wrong?"...then yeah, i can see that.

M.

Dude, respect the man's OPINION, instead of being a ****** and calling him wrong. Everyone has different opinions; and just because someone doesn't agree with you, it doesn't make them wrong.


Anywho, back on topic. Does anyone know if the Batgirl and Azreal 2 pack has been released?

 

[cr0w]

Does anyone have pics of the custom Trenchcoat Joker using The Question pieces?

On a side note, It's great to see wave 10 be affordable on ebay...take that hoarders/scalpers!

M.

I've got a Man-Bat you can buy for $50.

No way can I be a buddy and offer him for cost + shipping, that'd just be "wrong".

 

[karamazov80]

But then in my opinion, the best representaion of Batman outside the comics was BTAS all the way through Justice League

Not to harp on this much more (though that is exactly what I am doing), but I think the Batman: Animated Batman is the best Batman representation period. I don't think I've ever been happier to see a movie than I was when I saw "Mask of the Phantasm." Well, "A History of Violence" came close. . .

 

[Buttmunch]

Does anyone have pics of the custom Trenchcoat Joker using The Question pieces?

On a side note, It's great to see wave 10 be affordable on ebay...take that hoarders/scalpers!

M.

I don't think anyone has done that custom yet.

 

[klocket]

Dude, respect the man's OPINION, instead of being a ****** and calling him wrong. Everyone has different opinions; and just because someone doesn't agree with you, it doesn't make them wrong.

Apparently you missed the sarcastic smiley face at the end of my post...i was just razzing him...while i don't agree with him, it is his opinion after all and i am simple just jokily taking a jab at him...

So let's not name call, ok?.

I've got a Man-Bat you can buy for $50.

No way can I be a buddy and offer him for cost + shipping, that'd just be "wrong".

haha, see i think cr0w actually got that i was joking and didn't take it seriously...

cool, 50 bucks!...what's your paypal addy???

M.

 

[EdwardNashton1]

Apparently you missed the sarcastic smiley face at the end of my post...i was just razzing him...while i don't agree with him, it is his opinion after all and i am simple just jokily taking a jab at him...

So let's not name call, ok?.

Ok, sorry I didn't know you were joking. it's just that there ARE people on this board that aren't joking... so.....I stay vigilant

 

[klocket]

I don't think anyone has done that custom yet.

Ah, so it must just be internet buzz at this point...i really think the idea is kind of lame...but i would like to see it done to make a real decision.

M.

 

[Buttmunch]

I think most people are just assuming that Mattel will use the Question trenchcoat body to make a Commissioner Gordon as well as a Trenchcoated Joker. They need to re-release Joker outside of the wal-mart wave and this would be a good, legitimate variant to do so. Sure, its not his iconic look like the wal-mart exclusive one is, but it is definately better than some lame paint variant they could come up with.

 

[darkknight]

Anyone else put their order in for the Color Of Fear 2 pack? Just put a order in for one plus a He-Man. But damn shipping cost is killing me for it, $30 shipping.

 

[swiftlikessharpthings]

Yeah, I just bit on a COF 2-pack. I'm hoping I can figure out how to swap the Sinestro's head and hands I picked up loose onto Romat's body. Any advice on how this could be done?

 

[Lee in MI]

Yeah, I just bit on a COF 2-pack. I'm hoping I can figure out how to swap the Sinestro's head and hands I picked up loose onto Romat's body. Any advice on how this could be done?

Those are THE easiest parts to swap...just boil and pop. No stress at all.

Be a little careful with the hands as they have small pegs, but once you dip them in boiling water for about 30-45 seconds, they get very soft and the head and hands pop off quite easily.

Hope that helps.

 

[The Mike]

I'm sure they will probably release a yellow costume Sinestro in the near future, especially with a 2 pack of these two.

They won't re-release because its a variant. Although there is talk of using the body for a newer upgraded Sinestro since he was too small to begin with.

The DCD SC Sinestro is better than the DCUC version and IMO it is in scale with DCUC. Some DCD does work rather well with DCUC and are in scale.

Height wise maybe, but proportionately no. Karu-Sil may work although she looks a bit too small and Romat I think I've read will be a bit too short with Sinestro. I've seen them together the GL Corps from DCD and the GL Corps from DCUC and they are definitely out of scale both proportionately and height wise for some. It just depends on whether or not that'd bug you and since DCD has been riding the BN cash cow as hard as possible its hard for me to believe that a Karu-Sil and Romat aren't in the pipeline there...Too bad Romat's costume is different than Sinestro's. An easy bash might be possible and that would absolutely bug me.

 

[klocket]

Ok, sorry I didn't know you were joking. it's just that there ARE people on this board that aren't joking... so.....I stay vigilant

No worries, we are still BFF's. <----sarcastic smiley

haha...

M.