Metal Gear Solid Collectibles

[SOLIDSNAKE]

ohh man ! so pumped to see 3A's new MGS line up!
I am getting all the figures they make.

Guys ! have you played the demo of peace walker on psp ?
WOW is amazing. the graphics on this game are unreal for psp.
ashely wood's art work on the game is amazing.

 

[AngryEwok]

That's insane, guys - $100 for a single Kubrick?! Now, I'm glad that I was never interested in those little "Lego" guys lol.

Yeah, ditto. I hate paying $100 for a 1:6, but a lego?!

 

[Killboy]

That's insane, guys - $100 for a single Kubrick?! Now, I'm glad that I was never interested in those little "Lego" guys lol.

Yeah, ditto. I hate paying $100 for a 1:6, but a lego?!

When you put it like that, you can apply the logic to anything. For example, non-collectors could look at any 1/6th scale figure and say, $160 for a Barbie doll?

Although granted, a 1/6th scale is much easier to justify than a Kubrick... But...

I guess what I'm trying to say is it's just kinda well an issue of calling the kettle black when you riff on fellow collectors' buying practices. If they can swing it, good for them. Makes me jealous more than anything And I'm sure we all have that one thing that we'll go "insane" for. Secondary market prices kinda prove that much

On another note, it's kinda unfair to make examples of Lego and Barbie because given the right circumstances $100 is chump change as far as either line is concerned.

 

[Solidus]

When you put it like that, you can apply the logic to anything. For example, non-collectors could look at any 1/6th scale figure and say, $160 for a Barbie doll?

Although granted, a 1/6th scale is much easier to justify than a Kubrick... But...

I guess what I'm trying to say is it's just kinda well an issue of calling the kettle black when you riff on fellow collectors' buying practices. If they can swing it, good for them. Makes me jealous more than anything And I'm sure we all have that one thing that we'll go "insane" for. Secondary market prices kinda prove that much

On another note, it's kinda unfair to make examples of Lego and Barbie because given the right circumstances $100 is chump change as far as either line is concerned.

I would definitely agree that buying a 1/6 figure for $100 + is more justifiable than purchasing a Kubrick at that price . Generally, a lot of time and effort goes into making 1/6 figures - especially when you consider the stuff from Enterbay and Hot Toys. Kubricks, on the other hand, are cheaply manufactured (and cheap at retail). If you have to be jealous at anyone, be jealous at the lucky bastards who found a few cheap Kubrick chase figures in Japan, and are now scalping them on Ebay for ten times the price.

I honestly don't mind people calling my figures "dolls", or "dollies", since those terms sound more high end than just "action figure". But, I take issue with the word "Barbie". These are man dolls.. so call them "GI Joes" (even though that's grossly incorrect) .

Kubricks are still Legos, by the way. Japanese Legos .

 

[canuck_spartan]

Anybody know when more info's being released regarding the 3A stuff? I want to know well ahead of time so I can budget accordingly.

 

[Killboy]

Kubricks, on the other hand, are cheaply manufactured (and cheap at retail). If you have to be jealous at anyone, be jealous at the lucky bastards who found a few cheap Kubrick chase figures in Japan, and are now scalping them on Ebay for ten times the price.

Yeah but that's what I'm saying, the SRP of a 1/6th figure is $90 up. A Kubrick on the other hand, goes for what, 600 ~ 900 yen? It's the fans that dictate the ridiculous price tags, not Medicom. So if anyone deserves chastising, it's the collectors and not the manufacturer nor the product.

As far as Medicom is concerned, they deserve all the flack they get for how they've squandered the RAH line but as far as Kubricks are concerned, they've delivered through and through.

I can't really say that Kubricks are an acquired taste; I liked them off the bat. And they were successful enough to warrant tons of rip-offs i.e. Minimates, etc.

So to some people (including myself), $100 is reasonable for a "Lego" man. And to some people, it's reasonable to shell out ridiculous amounts of money for Legos i.e. the first Star Destroyer.

Look at old comic books. How are you going to justify prices of hundreds of thousands of dollars when those sold for 30 cents on cheap news print?

And weren't you lamenting the fact that your RAH's had dropped in value? My MGS Kubricks are probably the only toys I have that have appreciated.

I honestly don't mind people calling my figures "dolls", or "dollies", since those terms sound more high end than just "action figure". But, I take issue with the word "Barbie". These are man dolls.. so call them "GI Joes" (even though that's grossly incorrect) .

What's wrong with Barbie?

 

[Amanaman]

Medicom has been stagnant for some time. The RAH's are technically deficient and overpriced when compared to the competition. It's like they haven't bothered themselves to make improvements. I can't look at their 1/6 line with the same respect I once had for them. Sideshow busted its chops to bring us Hot Toys-level armored figures, and now they're on their way to make non-standard-shaped entries like the Gamorrean Guard.

The Kubricks are cool, I have a few, but I don't actively collect them. The blind box thing may be nice if you live in Japan.. it's awkward to import a box to hopefully find chases.

However, I'll take Kubricks anyday over uninspired Minimates and such. The one thing Medicom still has in their favor, is their sense of style. The Kubricks, VCDs, and even RAHs all have a cohesive aesthetic to them, which escapes many other toy makers.

I just wish Medicom would restructure itself and try to be more competitive.

 

[karamazov80]

I'm with Killboy on this one. When collectors of one toy criticize those who collect another in this way, it comes off sounding really silly. Hot Wheels cars are probably the most highly desirable collectibles around, but they probably cost less to license and produce than most Kubricks. Does that mean one being bought for $100+ is stupid? Not any more than saying that a RAH figure (which based on quality, isn't worth more than $100 by any stretch of the imagination) going for $300-400 in some instances is.

Kubricks are terrific, addictive little bastards (though their quality leaves something to be desired, IMO), and once you get into something, price becomes relative really fast, no matter if they are 3 inch tall block figures.

I will take issue with Amanaman's appraisal of Kubricks vs. Minimates, however. I collect both, and I feel that Minimates have more of a "cohesive aesthetic" than Kubricks do. Sure, Minimates have changed styles a bit over the years (from 3 inch to 2 inch, and now use more detail than before), and use more molded pieces than they have in the past. But some Kubricks are only recognizable as Kubricks because of their legs and hands. And some even lack that. Their Disney figures provide some good examples.

Also, at least Minimate got their Ghostbusters made. Screw you, Medicom.

 

[Solidus]

Hey, if you like Kubricks, go ahead and collect them, it's your money. But, in terms of my own personal preference, Kubricks are just not my thing. In my opinion, the real winners amongst the Kubrick collectors are those who managed to score some really cheap, and limited Kubs at MSRP.

Even though I don't intend to resell any of my collectibles now, I look at them as being a future investment (of sorts). I'm not going to live forever, and when I eventually die, the good Lord won't allow me to take my stuff with me . So, at some point in time, I'll have to seriously consider what to do with my collectibles. That said, I don't believe that it's justifiable to spend hundreds on something that, at one time or another, retailed at a price that was close to zilch (that includes comics, magazines, beanie babies, hot wheels, figures, etc.). In doing so, you'll be paying the maximum amount of an item's "collectible value", and you won't get much in return, should you decide to resell. But, then again, to each their own spending habits.

By the way, I was only venting about my tiger stripe Snake figure. Besides tiger stripe and Old Snake, the rest of my MGS RAH figures have become more "collectible". Croc Cap Snake is quite frankly, the only MGS figure of the original line up, that has maintained its value. Of course, I hope that Medicom doesn't decide to do a reissue on Croc Cap . But, I don't see it happening, since 3A has now acquired the MGS license.

Yeah but that's what I'm saying, the SRP of a 1/6th figure is $90 up. A Kubrick on the other hand, goes for what, 600 ~ 900 yen? It's the fans that dictate the ridiculous price tags, not Medicom. So if anyone deserves chastising, it's the collectors and not the manufacturer nor the product.

As far as Medicom is concerned, they deserve all the flack they get for how they've squandered the RAH line but as far as Kubricks are concerned, they've delivered through and through.

I can't really say that Kubricks are an acquired taste; I liked them off the bat. And they were successful enough to warrant tons of rip-offs i.e. Minimates, etc.

So to some people (including myself), $100 is reasonable for a "Lego" man. And to some people, it's reasonable to shell out ridiculous amounts of money for Legos i.e. the first Star Destroyer.

Look at old comic books. How are you going to justify prices of hundreds of thousands of dollars when those sold for 30 cents on cheap news print?

And weren't you lamenting the fact that your RAH's had dropped in value? My MGS Kubricks are probably the only toys I have that have appreciated.



What's wrong with Barbie?

 

[Solidus]

Medicom has been stagnant for some time. The RAH's are technically deficient and overpriced when compared to the competition. It's like they haven't bothered themselves to make improvements. I can't look at their 1/6 line with the same respect I once had for them. Sideshow busted its chops to bring us Hot Toys-level armored figures, and now they're on their way to make non-standard-shaped entries like the Gamorrean Guard.

I just wish Medicom would restructure itself and try to be more competitive.

I definitely agree with you there. Medicom's RAH figures are nothing close to what companies like Enterbay and Hot Toys have been dishing out. The MGS 3 Snakes look amazing, but, they also have very defective bodies (amongst other quality control issues), just like many other RAH figures.

But, I guess it's safe for us to conclude, that while Medicom has been stagnant with their RAH lineup, they've been fairly strong in other areas (kubricks, vcds, etc). After all, I don't see Hot Toys producing any other products, besides 1/6 figures.

 

[Killboy]

The Kubricks are cool, I have a few, but I don't actively collect them. The blind box thing may be nice if you live in Japan.. it's awkward to import a box to hopefully find chases.

Honestly I wish I had the dough to justify collecting them. But other than a few random SW Kubricks and the Green Hornet set, I'll have to stick with the MGS ones.

However, I'll take Kubricks anyday over uninspired Minimates and such. The one thing Medicom still has in their favor, is their sense of style. The Kubricks, VCDs, and even RAHs all have a cohesive aesthetic to them, which escapes many other toy makers.

Yeah for some strange reason I can't get into Minimates either.

I just wish Medicom would restructure itself and try to be more competitive.

I've said this before but I think it really lies in the fact that Medicom doesn't really care about making motions towards the international market. All they care about is Japan, which is why they don't even bother trying to compete. It reminds me of the Banpresto game Super Robot Wars. They don't bother trying to translate it or port it for other Asian markets, let alone Europe or North America. They're happy with the Japanese audience.

I'm with Killboy on this one. When collectors of one toy criticize those who collect another in this way, it comes off sounding really silly. Hot Wheels cars are probably the most highly desirable collectibles around, but they probably cost less to license and produce than most Kubricks. Does that mean one being bought for $100+ is stupid? Not any more than saying that a RAH figure (which based on quality, isn't worth more than $100 by any stretch of the imagination) going for $300-400 in some instances is.

Hear hear.

I will take issue with Amanaman's appraisal of Kubricks vs. Minimates, however. I collect both, and I feel that Minimates have more of a "cohesive aesthetic" than Kubricks do. Sure, Minimates have changed styles a bit over the years (from 3 inch to 2 inch, and now use more detail than before), and use more molded pieces than they have in the past. But some Kubricks are only recognizable as Kubricks because of their legs and hands. And some even lack that. Their Disney figures provide some good examples.

I agree that Minimates are more "cohesive" or consistent, but I see it as a detriment to the line. It's the same reason that I can't get into Mighty Muggs: they're all the same. At least with Kubricks they have character. I really like it when they create pieces that deviate from the basic sculpt, like the Disney Kubricks.

Also, at least Minimate got their Ghostbusters made. Screw you, Medicom.

You got me on that one

In my opinion, the real winners amongst the Kubrick collectors are those who managed to score some really cheap, and limited Kubs at MSRP.

No argument there. That pretty much applies to anyone. Right now I'm really hurting because I didn't pick up the Hot Toys Hicks and Kyle Reese when they first came out.

Even though I don't intend to resell any of my collectibles now, I look at them as being a future investment (of sorts). I'm not going to live forever, and when I eventually die, the good Lord won't allow me to take my stuff with me . So, at some point in time, I'll have to seriously consider what to do with my collectibles. That said, I don't believe that it's justifiable to spend hundreds on something that, at one time or another, retailed at a price that was close to zilch (that includes comics, magazines, beanie babies, hot wheels, figures, etc.). In doing so, you'll be paying the maximum amount of an item's "collectible value", and you won't get much in return, should you decide to resell. But, then again, to each their own spending habits.

Yeah but it's contradictory to disparage the secondary market and the practice of paying more than SRP on collectibles, but to expect your own collectibles to appreciate. One can't exist without the other.

The reason that your Croc Cap Snake is still relatively valuable is because Medicom hasn't rereleased it but also more importantly because there are people that are willing to pay $300+. It's just how the market works.

 

[Cap'n Cook]

Aaargh! Just went on an epic quest to get Metal Gear Online set up and I can find no way to get into a battle?!??

Automatching never gets enough players and I have no idea about the free battle thing. SO frustrated, utter waste of time.

 

[Killboy]

Once you get into MGO, you'll be frustrated for different reasons... I've been playing it on and off since it came out so I've definitely gotten the most mileage out of it as far as my PS3 games are concerned... But it can be incredibly maddening for a number of reasons.

It didn't take long to find an automatch when the game first came out, but now it's increasingly harder. My suggestion is to go into the free rooms and search out the rooms with lower level players in them. The rooms all indicate the average level of the players so it's easy to pick and choose the level of competition.

 

[Rock83]

Did anyone get those new UDF Figures?

https://cgi.ebay.com/UDF-NO-50-Meta...emQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4ceb42a363


ready to ship.

 

[Rock83]

Im getting these 2 from that set if i can get them for a fair price,not that great but i always wanted figures of Boss and Snake together.

 

[dcflake]

Wheres invisble croutching snake?

 

[Solidus]

Im getting these 2 from that set if i can get them for a fair price,not that great but i always wanted figures of Boss and Snake together.

Not a bad idea! Personally though, I've had enough of the UDF figures. Nothing in series 2 really interests me, and in my opinion, Series 1 was much better. By the way, I'm thinking about kit bashing a 1/6 boss figure to go with my RAH Tiger Stripe. I'm sure it's possible, but the only thing that really concerns me, is finding an accurate head sculpt.

 

[Solidus]

Wheres invisble croutching snake?

That was a Series 1 figure, exclusive to the SDCC. It was released last year, and is no longer in retail. But, you'll find lots of them on Ebay.

 

[dcflake]

That was a Series 1 figure, exclusive to the SDCC. It was released last year, and is no longer in retail. But, you'll find lots of them on Ebay.

I know what you mean but that was old snake. Play.com claims that there is a new Old Snake varaint of the new croutching Snake coming out November/December.

 

[Jaycepticon]

that's the only one I care about. So glad I skipped on the ugly one from the first series. I might get Series 2 Raiden as well