Michael Jackson dead at 50

[pixletwin]

You know... for being such a hater,
you sure spend a lot of time devoted to Michael Jackson,
Maybe deep down you're a fan just as everybody else?

Don't even worry. Oneye's days on this board are numbered if he keeps it up.

 

[The Mike]

Why? Because they gave the customer what he wanted? No responsibility at the feet of Wacko Jacko?

Jackson isn't clear of blame but doctor shopping is illegal and unethical on both ends. If this is true he was an addicted individual and many would do whatever it takes to get their next fix, to add more complications he was an individual with money and influence which meant rock bottom was so far away it wouldn't have probably ever been hit. It is not out of the realm of possibilities that plastic surgeons said that if he continued to get work done they could "legally" perscribe him the drugs and that was a way around it. According to reports he wanted to be put down for every single thing done whether it needed it or not. Add in the fact he has money he could easily pay to get more from various doctors. Anna Nicole Smith did it, Rush Limbaugh did it and it wouldn't be surprising if MJ did it...He was an addict with money acting out, the doctors should have known better, should have checked his files and realized the addictive nature going on and on top of it, they had no problem risking their medical licenses for a payday either.

 

[Spartan Rex]

Doctors are supposed to give him what he needs not what he wants.

Ideally perhaps.
But wealth and fame in our world trumps everything else, and what the rich want they get. For better or worse.
We are each captains of our own soul and the ultimate consequences should rest with each individuals choices. Not scapegoating others.
He was a pillpopping,self mutilating attention whore who had a tremendous amount of talent who surrounded himself with enablers.
He reaped what he sowed,just like Elvis, River Phonix,Anna Nicole etc etc ad nauseum.

 

[Voorhees27]

Don't even worry. Oneye's days on this board are numbered if he keeps it up.

Pfffffft you bully

 

[The Ween]

Why?
Because they gave the customer what he wanted?
No responsibility at the feet of Wacko Jacko?

Are you saying they did a good job? Doctor's take an oath to do no harm. They could've said no. Of course the paycheck was too big I'm sure.

I'm not saying that he isn't responsible, but, just like Elvis, someone needed to say NO. Those who didn't, they share in the responsiblity.

 

[Darth Madden]

Ideally perhaps.
But wealth and fame in our world trumps everything else, and what the rich want they get. For better or worse.
We are each captains of our own soul and the ultimate consequences should rest with each individuals choices. Not scapegoating others.
He was a pillpopping,self mutilating attention whore who had a tremendous amount of talent who surrounded himself with enablers.
He reaped what he sowed,just like Elvis, River Phonix,Anna Nicole etc etc ad nauseum.

I'm not giving Michael a free pass here since he's the one who willingly took the drugs but the Dr's need to say no. And sadly in his case enough people didn't say no.

 

[Spartan Rex]

Are you saying they did a good job? Doctor's take an oath to do no harm. They could've said no. Of course the paycheck was too big I'm sure.
I'm not saying that he isn't responsible, but, just like Elvis, someone needed to say NO. Those who didn't, they share in the responsiblity.

No, I didnt say they did a good job.
I said they gave him in all likely hood exactly what he wanted.
In the final analysis it shouldve been Michael who looked in the mirror and thought "Ya know,maybe I should stop."
Upon close inspection of Michaels life the one overriding thing that sticks out is that he made poor personal decisions that shortened his life and in ended with him in debt.
These things did not randomly happen to him or were forced upon him.
He made a series of choices that got him there.

Im curious,why didnt you write Elvis shouldve said NO instead "someone" else?

Why no personal accountability anymore? Who has more of a vested interest in your life Ween? Your health,your wealth, your contentment?
You or some hanger on youve hired or member of your enabling entourage?
See what I mean?

Who knows how many good surgeons and doctors turned down Jacko before he found the one that thought "Hey who am I to judge if he's going to far,this might make him happy".
You dont seem to want to take into account Michael mayve still wanted his nose smaller still. No one was forcing unelected medical procedures on Michael.

 

[Spartan Rex]

I'm not giving Michael a free pass here since he's the one who willingly took the drugs but the Dr's need to say no. And sadly in his case enough people didn't say no.

Like I posted above, theres really one person that really mattered that needed to say "No" and now he's dead.

I wouldnt be opposed to prosecuting anyone who provided the drugs but waaay too many fans place blame on everyone but their fallen idol/hero.

 

[Kuzeh]

The funny thing is that so far...
everything is just speculation...
we don't know the facts... yet... and probably never will...
If you believe all that's in the news... well... I feel sorry for you...

 

[Spartan Rex]

The funny thing is that so far...
everything is just speculation...
we don't know the facts... yet... and probably never will...
If you believe all that's in the news... well... I feel sorry for you...

I'll go out on a limb here and say that their probably will never be enough evidence gathered to tarnish your icon in your mind Kuzeh.
Your blinders are also cutting off the blood flow and affecting your reasoning skills.
Sad in its own right when truth is shoved aside so we dont come to grips with difficult and often healthy realizations.
Save that pity for yourself.

 

[The Ween]

Like I posted above, theres really one person that really mattered that needed to say "No" and now he's dead.

I wouldnt be opposed to prosecuting anyone who provided the drugs but waaay too many fans place blame on everyone but their fallen idol/hero.

We're talking about addicts here, whether it be about drugs or addiction to plastic surgery. Doctor's are supposed to do what's best for the patient. Yes, the main resposiblity lies with themselves, but it's the doctors who give them the drugs, or do the plastic surgeries. They should've said no. Though nothing can be done about the surgeons, the one supplying him drugs, especially the IV sedatives, should be investigated.

I personally wouldn't go to any plastic surgeon MJ went too. They do ^^^^ty work.

 

[Kuzeh]

I'll go out on a limb here and say that their probably will never be enough evidence gathered to tarnish your icon in your mind Kuzeh.
Your blinders are also cutting off the blood flow and affecting your reasoning skills.
Sad in its own right when truth is shoved aside so we dont come to grips with difficult and often healthy realizations.
Save that pity for yourself.

Here's the thing dude...
I don't believe in the media... period...
regardless if it's about politics, war, scandals, gossip, "investigations", etc...
because the media is here to "make money" not to inform...
sensationalism is what makes money for CNN, MSNBC and E!
When things are OK, they don't make money!! Scandals, and tragedies are jackpots for them!!
So if you believe that everything you see or hear in the news is TRUTH...
well, I'm the one who pity's you...

Besides, I DON'T care about Michael's personal life... I've said it numerous times! I love his music and artistry, the man was a genius and one of the few people in the history of the world that made a huge positive impact in MILLIONS... those are facts...
Yes, he was weird in some aspects of his life, and made huge mistakes as well... but that's life!!

The funny thing is that I enjoy his music and videos and that's it!!
I take the positive, and leave the negative out of my life...
while you, and some of the trolls here, beg for attention claiming to know details of his life, when in reality, you only know what you probably saw on MSNBC or ET...

 

[Bodie The Cursed]

pedophiles suck...

 

[carbo-fation]

pedophiles suck...

Agreed, but why post in this thread? No pedos here!

 

[ONEYE]

Pfffffft you bully

Ha! From a fired moderator no less.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGfJ0_KMiro

You quoted him, since he's on my ignore list, I don't normally see his insignificant posts.

No worries. I won't entertain his wishes.

 

[Bannister]

The funny thing is that I enjoy his music and videos and that's it!!
I take the positive, and leave the negative out of my life...
while you, and some of the trolls here, beg for attention claiming to know details of his life, when in reality, you only know what you probably saw on MSNBC or ET...

So posting a thread about MJ's ghost isn't attention seeking when it could have easily just been posted in this thread.

 

[Kuzeh]

So posting a thread about MJ's ghost isn't attention seeking when it could have easily just been posted in this thread.

OK... I'm guilty!!!...

 

[Bannister]

OK... I'm guilty!!!...

 

[Bannister]

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[The Ween]

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