MMS83 - Hellboy II – HELLBOY figure Spec and Hi-res pics

[icruise]

I think it's the size of the Right Hand of Doom on the HBII PF that makes him look skinny. It just seems off.

 

[The Ween]

I noticed that many of the High End Figs got issues. Medicom Darth Vader for example ... Son Goku ...

I think that the Body will be very delicate. I read that a little Protection will make a Muscular Body last longer. But hey ... Nothing will Last forever ...

I got a huge DVD Collection. And thinking of the Fact that even DVDs last only 10 - 20 years gives me chills.

Where did you read this about DVDs? I've never heard of it.

 

[YoNoSe]

my bad, i thought here's the place to talk about TOYS, of all things. must miss the part where it says 'talk in agreement only' though.

This is a great place to talk toys. Discussing the pros and cons is a great way kill some time. When you're complaining that the figure is inaccurate because you think it shouldn't have nipples it comes across as pointless, ignorant arguing.
Man, snotty noob of the day award...

 

[supekudx]

More pics:
https://www.toy-world.com.hk/forum/viewthread.php?tid=13687&extra=page=1

 

[Rock83]

Re: MMS83 - Hellboy II – HELLBOY figure Spec and Hi-res pics

i dont care much for this figure but it looks cool...They should have made a bigger Muscle body though,it looks too skinny.

 

[mr.thrifty]

i dont care much for this figure but it looks cool...They should have made a bigger Muscle body though,it looks too skinny.

he was skinny in the movie, soo...looks spot on to me.

 

[samueljd]

I think the figure looks great. The proportions look fine to me IMHO.

 

[The Mike]

i think someone is trying to convince themselves the pf is not better, so he doesnt have to buy it. money saved.

This is the dumbest thing I've ever read and proof positive that you are new around here. Trust me if I wanted the PF it'd already be on order. Saving money has never been my forté...For the price of the HT figure I think they did amazing, if they resculpted a whole new muscle body and put more into it we'd be paying more plain and simple. For the price it costs they've gone above and beyond and I love the Bank Robber Joker but its far from perfection. It should have been on a slimmer body, the neck should have been able to hunch forward to give the stature that he had, the unmasked sculpts should have had more blonde in the hair than green as was shown on screen to be screen accurate.

Its an amazing figure though and I love it, for the price paid it was "perfect" just like HB looks to be. To say though that PFs and 1/6 figures are on the same plateau is wishful thinking and a bit naive. 1/6 figures will always use standard base bodies and every company in the industry will reuse pieces and parts, just look at the HT RE:5 figures for example but PFs, Comiquettes every and any single sculpted piece should be as near perfect as all possible.

 

[cr`]

This is a great place to talk toys. Discussing the pros and cons is a great way kill some time. When you're complaining that the figure is inaccurate because you think it shouldn't have nipples it comes across as pointless, ignorant arguing.
Man, snotty noob of the day award...

when it's inaccurate then it's inaccurate(i was wrong about the nipple though), but talking about ANY other part of a toy is just as pointless. didn't mean to be snooty. sorry it came across that way.

 

[cr`]

For the price of the HT figure I think they did amazing, if they resculpted a whole new muscle body and put more into it we'd be paying more plain and simple. For the price it costs they've gone above and beyond and I love the Bank Robber Joker but its far from perfection. It should have been on a slimmer body, the neck should have been able to hunch forward to give the stature that he had, the unmasked sculpts should have had more blonde in the hair than green as was shown on screen to be screen accurate.

agree with you about joker. nitpick it and you can still see there's room for improvement. dont bother me as much as the skinny body used for hellboy though. and they did resculpt a whole new base body for batman TDK, and for just the same price. and hottoys termie and robocop dont even use the base body, they have to be built from scratch. so what's the price gotta do with anything.

Its an amazing figure though and I love it, for the price paid it was "perfect" just like HB looks to be. To say though that PFs and 1/6 figures are on the same plateau is wishful thinking and a bit naive. 1/6 figures will always use standard base bodies and every company in the industry will reuse pieces and parts, just look at the HT RE:5 figures for example but PFs, Comiquettes every and any single sculpted piece should be as near perfect as all possible.

price and scale has nothing to do with it. that gap has been long closed. we've seen pf did better than CM, we've seen 1/6 beat pf. i think we can judge each piece on its own now, regardless of price and material. if the hottoys hellboy is skinny, then it's skinny. no need for excuses, since we all know hottoys CAN do better if they want to.

 

[uscmhicks]

I personally prefer the pf.

I have to be honest... I couldn't give a ^^^^ about accuracy or how big the nipples are.
To me the premium format and this figure both reperesent hellboy in there own two different ways. I'm choosing the premium format since I'm trying to get more statues for my display and I think I prefer it overall.
I am very suprised though I never ordered these figures ( hellboy and abe ) , some of these photos on here make it hard to not buy them.
Thats why when I've got no cash I steer clear of this website.
Otherwise its beans for another month.

 

[Devil_666]

and they did resculpt a whole new base body for batman TDK, and for just the same price.

I could be wrong but I'm almost positive HT actually made that body for MJ not the TDK Batman. But your point still stands.

price and scale has nothing to do with it. that gap has been long closed. we've seen pf did better than CM, we've seen 1/6 beat pf. i think we can judge each piece on its own now, regardless of price and material. if the hottoys hellboy is skinny, then it's skinny. no need for excuses, since we all know hottoys CAN do better if they want to.

Agreed. HT F's up like everyone else. And they cut corners like everyone else. They're not above criticism. Although on this board sometimes you'll find that untrue.

I'm happy with how their Hellboy turned out though. I wish the small amount of criticism thrown at this figure were the same for some of HT's other figures that I own because in a lot those cases, the differences are MUCH bigger and drastic. Hell, my P2 Pred doesn't even have the right paint scheme. If only.. IF ONLY.. it were as simple as the curves on his chest just being slightly off. You know?

 

[darren1228]

and they did resculpt a whole new base body for batman TDK, and for just the same price. and hottoys termie and robocop dont even use the base body, they have to be built from scratch. so what's the price gotta do with anything.

TDK Batman only had his shoulders modified. This base body was apparently also used for the newest James Dean figure. I'm gonna guess that we will see a lot more of "TDK" base body in future Hot Toys products. Same thing with the Terminator figure, Robocop, and Iron Man. Yes they were completely new sculpts but they were reused again and again. Terminator (regular T-800, battle-damaged T-800, and now the T-700), Robocop (3 versions), and Ironman (Mark 2, Mark 3, and don't forget about Ironman 2 coming out in 2011). The point being that Hot Toys is a business and they are not going to sculpt a new Hellboy body (with square chest and accurate nipples) unless they see the potential to reuse it.

 

[The Mike]

What I find funny is that my base argument WAS that HT cuts corners, that they would alway revert to their base body of the TrueType just like SSC went with The Buck. Bodies aren't created until absolutely necessary just like SSC did that just like all 1/6 companies do that. That IS my argument that accepting the fact that companies will reuse parts, pieces, bodies and even at times sculpts, HT's HB and BRJ and plenty of others are still stunning and outstanding pieces despite their flaws.

You see SSC PFs, Cinemaquettes or any other sculpted pieces are not starting with this precedent stated or in action. They begin from scratch from a simple armature that heads towards a finalized piece. Therefore as far as I'm concerned a skinny HB is a shortcut (no one ever argued that) but its one that is expected and one that has been overcome for the most part. A PF should never ever be too skinny or too tall or too stocky because they aren't handicapped like the 1/6 market. You can try to put pieces to pieces as if they both start at ground zero but in reality they don't. While the HB PF started with nothing, the HT figure like all 1/6 figures regardless of company started with a base figure that someone said "Make that into this."

 

[darren1228]

I could be wrong but I'm almost positive HT actually made that body for MJ not the TDK Batman. But your point still stands.

I see your point but the Michael Jackson slim body can be used for other "slim" characters while an accurate Hellboy body with accurate build, chest, and nipples has a lower chance of being reused. I don't think the potential is there for multiple Hellboy figure and can see why Hot Toys "cutting corners". The same thing is happening for the RE5 Chris Redfield figure.

 

[cr`]

they tweaked enough changes to the base body for TDK to warrant it being call a new body type. as for hellboy... what, you're saying hottoys will never ever find use for a bulkier body type? not even for future products? and if they could use the body of termie and robocop 3 times, they could use hellboy that many times as well. you think this is the only hellboy version we're going to get, ever?

 

[cr`]

What I find funny is that my base argument WAS that HT cuts corners, that they would alway revert to their base body of the TrueType just like SSC went with The Buck. Bodies aren't created until absolutely necessary just like SSC did that just like all 1/6 companies do that. That IS my argument that accepting the fact that companies will reuse parts, pieces, bodies and even at times sculpts, HT's HB and BRJ and plenty of others are still stunning and outstanding pieces despite their flaws.

now that you admit hottoys cut corners for hellboy, would you finally admit that it DOES look "waay skinny" as well?

to my eyes it's waaaaaaaay skinnier than the pf.

 

[Devil_666]

they tweaked enough changes to the base body for TDK to warrant it being call a new body type. as for hellboy... what, you're saying hottoys will never ever find use for a bulkier body type? not even for future products? and if they could use the body of termie and robocop 3 times, they could use hellboy that many times as well. you think this is the only hellboy version we're going to get, ever?

But this is a rubber body. If they would've made Hellboy bigger, realistically, how much movement/poseability do you think he'd have!?

now that you admit hottoys cut corners for hellboy, would you finally admit that it DOES look "waay skinny" as well?

to my eyes it's waaaaaaaay skinnier than the pf.

smh.. you're still missing the point bro. Is the 1/6 scale FIGURE that uses a BASE BODY skinnier than the STATUE that's CREATED FROM SCRATCH? Let's say yes.. for the sake of arguement. That still doesn't change the fact that there's absolutely no excuse for a statue to be "off" in height, weight, etc. because it's MADE FROM SCRATCH. They don't have to use existing parts. So if the Hellboy II PF is skinny, that's a design flaw from the artist who sculpted it. It's not because the artist(s) was bound by using existing parts to cut costs.

 

[cr`]

Agreed. HT F's up like everyone else. And they cut corners like everyone else. They're not above criticism. Although on this board sometimes you'll find that untrue.

exactly. hottoys is not above criticism. and when someone so adamantly make excuses to defend the glaring flaws, while at the same time criticizing another product, then i have to take issue.

 

[Devil_666]

exactly. hottoys is not above criticism. and when someone so adamantly make excuses to defend the glaring flaws, while at the same time criticizing another product, then i have to take issue.

So how long did it take you to sculpt the Hellboy II PF?