NECA: Predator Movie Franchise Figures

[greygoose]

I want to own this one day so some company best make it.

 

[tankman]

i have the same canary fig. i would think it would be easier and more practical just to get real netting on 7" pred than to go through the hassle of sculpting them and then trying to paint straight lines over them. what's more important is that it would make thttps://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=4029047he whole impression look so much cooler. so, what do you say, tankman? give it a try for the next wave?




so it's not todd the man that you hate, but the guys running the NJ office. good for making that clear, because it always looked to me you had it for the man himself, judging by the constant venom you spewed about mcf. i thought the company committed suicide the day they decided to give up pursuing movie licenses and went agressively after cartoons, and i vented constantly about it in their forum. so i got my beef with mcf too. i'm just really grateful that neca picked up the effort and is continuing mcf's movie maniac legacy.

but now.. back to your pred. this is not a ***, but a sincere request from me, that i strongly believe would result in neca giving us the best possible 7" pred. so please consider these options seriously:

- dont mold the plastic in color. PAINT IT! it makes your preds look cheap and toyish. (my biggest gripe)
- real netting
- dont blame the girls sitting in the assembly line. just supervise the factory better.
- raise the unit price

dont say no outright. play the options in your mind. chew on them, consider the possibility of making them real. would you please do that, for the sake of a better pred in the long run?

not to be a buttkisser, but as great as the fan mod is, your proto still trumps it. have you thought about releasing the preds in the 2up size? i think only one or two companies are playing in that scale now. judging by the brilliant work on that 2up, i'd say the 10" market is yours for the taking should you choose it.

also, if you could put on a real netting on a 10" pred, then you sure as hell could put on the same netting on a pred just a couple of inches smaller.

I'd say 1/4th for our Predator2 and I personally get a big kick out of seeing a figure I sculpted get blown up larger.
No I don't hate Todd or anyone for that matter but Todd is real big on himself and he thinks his ideas are the way to go. Most of the best things that came out of his place was the things us the fans suggested. As time went on the sculptors just didn't care because the work environment was so poor. Todd was told of the going ons in NJ office but chose his managers over his artist. Now the NJ office is left with NO sculptors and nobody wants to work with those people. Guess who McFarlane's best work for now?
Todd was sold on the idea to use computers and little did he know the NJ guys had to go that way because all the really good sculptors took off. I sometimes wonder how Todd doesn't notice how his Living Dead tv show figures don't look proportioned like the real actors. Well when you scan a short stubby guy that works in your photography department thats what you get. A body that looks nothing like the real actor.
Todd also chose to not want to pay people anywhere near what they are worth. He rather buy a roid head 3 million dollar baseball that's now worth nothing. Not a good idea and when we left we felt He would drive the Titanic right into the iceberg. Sad that seems to be the way of things. Can you put a pick up of the figure with the real netting please. I'd like to see it.

 

[S. Griffin]

Jack the Ripper posted a pic on page 936

 

[crows]

but now.. back to your pred. this is not a ***, but a sincere request from me, that i strongly believe would result in neca giving us the best possible 7" pred. so please consider these options seriously:

- dont mold the plastic in color. PAINT IT! it makes your preds look cheap and toyish. (my biggest gripe)
- real netting
- dont blame the girls sitting in the assembly line. just supervise the factory better.
- raise the unit price

Dont mold the plastic in color, I agree
Real Netting, I dont know, I know is possible in 7' scale but, seems like it would be troublesome, specially if is fragile like the net on the 1/4 pred,
Supervise the factory better: Tankman just said is really hard, so
raise price Unit: Tankman already also answer this one already, People wouldn't pay 40 bucks for a better 7 inch pred, I don't think I would, he said a better paint job would cost 30 bucks more or something,
my point is, Tankman already explained those two, the factories are hard to control and raising the price would not be a good move

 

[S. Griffin]

Most of us aren't asking for perfect paint here. Could we get slightly better for $5 to $10 more?

 

[Rotfish]

I'm cool with sculpted netting on the 7-inchers, as long as it's painted well. That's really the main issue here: paint. And this all stems from NECA's troubles with the factory.

 

[Boba Ben]

The sculpture is extremely impressive. I think cr' is right about the molded plastic in the color. Adding paint to the sculpture makes it really pop.

 

[Rotfish]

True, true.

Is like if I had a house maid and she always burned dinner for me, but i couldn't say anything to her, even though I would be eating Burned chicken

This post sums up my confusion perfectly. What is the deal, people? Take some control of the situation, it's the mark of a good company. Even HT learned how to do that with their recent Classic improvements (not comparing apples to oranges, just saying that a company as full of itself as HT ended up doing the right thing when their probems weren't even too bothersome to begin with).

 

[KoBE]

Can you put a pick up of the figure with the real netting please. I'd like to see it.

 

[CelticPredator]

Come on now, you can't say the McFarlane P2 figure is how the movie P2 should have looked.

I'm not. But I wasn't there. Maybe the Stan Winston guy sculpted something he thought was right, but could've been worse then what came out.

I don't know. I'm mearly trying to give a senario as to why someone who helped make the thing didn't do a good job,

 

[KoBE]

I'm not. But I wasn't there. Maybe the Stan Winston guy sculpted something he thought was right, but could've been worse then what came out.

I don't know. I'm mearly trying to give a senario as to why someone who helped make the thing didn't do a good job,

Wait, you do know who Stan Winston was, right??

 

[CelticPredator]

Yes. I know who Stan Winston is.

Kyle said a GUY from STAN WINSTON'S STUDIO's sculpted a figure that was rejected or whatever. Hence...Stan Winston guy,

 

[KoBE]

Yes. I know who Stan Winston is.

Kyle said a GUY from STAN WINSTON'S STUDIO's sculpted a figure that was rejected or whatever. Hence...Stan Winston guy,

Shoo! Ok, my faith in this board is restored.

 

[CelticPredator]

Righto............

 

[greygoose]

This post sums up my confusion perfectly. What is the deal, people? Take some control of the situation, it's the mark of a good company. Even HT learned how to do that with their recent Classic improvements (not comparing apples to oranges, just saying that a company as full of itself as HT ended up doing the right thing when their probems weren't even too bothersome to begin with).

Surely the whole issue boils down to money and trying to cut back on production costs.

 

[cr`]

The two-ups aren't 10", they're 12". There are plenty of companies in that particular market and seeing as how NECA has issues with accurately-scaling their figures, most collectors would go with the other alternatives (like Hot Toys). Even if they improved their paint apps, they still wouldn't come close to those found on high-end pieces. If NECA enters any new market with their Predators, I'd hope they continue their 1/4 line.

ok 12" then, not 10". my bad. those preds 2ups(i'll show more pics in a sec) absolutely kick ht's attempts. just pulverize them, imho. if neca choose to enter the 12" market with those 2ups, then ht should start to worry everytime they want to do a pred.

neca's 18" pred cost $90. and i thought it was painted quite well despite the plastic being molded in color. so how much would a 12" pred, FULLY PAINTED(not molded in color), would cost? less than $90, you think? more than $90? if a $90 18" is possible, then a 2up like that for a price way below ht's offer is entirely possible!

I'd say 1/4th for our Predator2 and I personally get a big kick out of seeing a figure I sculpted get blown up larger.
No I don't hate Todd or anyone for that matter but Todd is real big on himself and he thinks his ideas are the way to go. Most of the best things that came out of his place was the things us the fans suggested. As time went on the sculptors just didn't care because the work environment was so poor. Todd was told of the going ons in NJ office but chose his managers over his artist. Now the NJ office is left with NO sculptors and nobody wants to work with those people. Guess who McFarlane's best work for now?
Todd was sold on the idea to use computers and little did he know the NJ guys had to go that way because all the really good sculptors took off. I sometimes wonder how Todd doesn't notice how his Living Dead tv show figures don't look proportioned like the real actors. Well when you scan a short stubby guy that works in your photography department thats what you get. A body that looks nothing like the real actor.
Todd also chose to not want to pay people anywhere near what they are worth. He rather buy a roid head 3 million dollar baseball that's now worth nothing. Not a good idea and when we left we felt He would drive the Titanic right into the iceberg. Sad that seems to be the way of things. Can you put a pick up of the figure with the real netting please. I'd like to see it.

ok, you're back to dissing todd again. hehe.. i agreed that mcf got clueless towards the end, even to the point they didnt seem to recognize who their fans are anymore or what kind of company they were when they started. it showed in each stupid decision they made, in license choices, in the the drop in design and quality, etc etc. and even when i didnt know the inside story(though i heard rumors the sculptors were unhappy), it was obvious todd the artist had left the building for good, and todd the businessman had taken over, and for the worse. everyone but the most devout mcf fanboys could see the company was getting off track, way off track. i ranted about this often in their forum but was shut out; the forum had turned into a 24 hours ball-stroking party for todd by then, and they just wouldnt listen to reason. we all see how that ended up.

so see, i agree on many of the things you talked about mcf. but point is, mcf is now irrelevant, and neca is king in 7" market. so why keep bringing mcf up to compare your figs to? dont look back, just look ahead. and ahead is CLEANLY BETTER PAINTED figs, because atrocious sloppy paint is STILL neca's biggest weakness. get rid of your weaknesses and nobody can dethrone you.

so, pretty please, with cherry on top, mull over the suggestions i gave for the preds. and i say that humbly, as a huge fan of your work.

The sculpture is extremely impressive. I think cr' is right about the molded plastic in the color. Adding paint to the sculpture makes it really pop.

i know i'm right because i own plenty neca figs that are both molded in color and entirely painted. the difference is blatant to me - one looks like a completed finished product, the other looks like it's 2 stages short off a finished product; one looks professional and polished, the other looks plasticky and toyish. if neca want to cut corner on their preds to save cost, molding the plastic in color should not be an option.

 

[greygoose]

I'll never forgive McF for drooping Lost Series 3 figures. *******s!

 

[cr`]

more 2ups, courtesy of mwctoys:

 

[JacktheRipper]

One of the things I remember reading from SS and Neca was that HT has an advantage with the production factory. HT can in essence have someone on site. Can't they hire someone in China if they don't want to send someone from the States? And it would seem more productive to hire someone from China. I'm sure HT gets better results because they work with their countrymen.

 

[greygoose]

One of the things I remember reading from SS and Neca was that HT has an advantage with the production factory. HT can in essence have someone on site. Can't they hire someone in China if they don't want to send someone from the States? And it would seem more productive to hire someone from China. I'm sure HT gets better results because they work with their countrymen.

What about every other British/ American etc. company that produces goods in the far east? The computer I'm typing this on was probably made over there and the quality is perfect. NECA will be paying someone to give the OK on quality control. Depends what thier standard is to give the OK.