NECA: Predator Movie Franchise Figures

[a-dev]

In case no one asked - when are these figures coming out?

 

[Batfreak]

haha yeah the last 3 posts arent making it clear enough.

 

[Sabres21768]

Hell yes there will be and these guys are coming out great so far.

HELL TO THE YEAH!

Thanks dude.

I'm so psyched for these! :chew:chew

 

[The Rider]

Yes things like that and maybe and the net not being sculpted on even though china did a great job.

That would be very cool.
Thanks for the upcoming T2 and Predator Stuff.

I have heard the Fine cut of the Elder is still not finished.
It would be great if you could still make some small changes.

E.g. the decorations on the dreads, the necklace, the Gauntlet, the dagger in his other hand and the speckled pattern on the forehead (like P1).

 

[Rotfish]

Oh, good lord... The dagger can be moved into his other hand. Sabres is not gonna like this...

 

[The Rider]

No, the right Hand is closed.
This is the big Problem.

 

[Sabres21768]

 

[MaulFan]

No, the right Hand is closed.
This is the big Problem.

And one you're very likely going to have to live with. Unless NECA commits to a swappable hand for P1 and the Elder, they're not likely going to ok an alternate just for the Elder. The only reason we're getting the Elder is because a large portion of it's parts can be recycled from the P1 work. In terms of NECA figures, it's a P1 variant more than a unique character, making the Elder allows NECA to put out 4 figures using most of the parts from the P1 design, it's just like the variants in the T2 line, they like to get the most out of the molds that they can, it increases their profits off figures and where Tankman has said the Preds cost more than other figures, the Elder allows them to really maximize and get 4 figures instead of just 3 P1s, and who knows, they might do "cloaked" P1s to get 5 or 6 figures out of the mold. NECA can offer a nice variety, but often when they do a variety of figures in a line, like T2, a lot of the reason is to get the most out of the work they can.

 

[The Rider]

Even in the films was the Elder only a Version of the Original Predator.
But a few small changes would not be difficult.
Tankman wanted to change Hands, Dreads and Gauntlets(old post).
The Fine cuts are still not finished, so it would be possible.
Small changes would require too much.
Neca saves a lot of money with the versions.

 

[MaulFan]

That's just it, versions help NECA profit more, to then add new features when they could put it out without them will add more costs. The point of putting out the Elder is to make money of the work for the P1, to be remotely accurrate some unique things have to be added, but something like an alternate hand isn't necessary to look like the Elder and would likely be deemed and unnecessary expense. The things NECA will give an OK to for making Elder different from P1 will be inexepensive things and absolutely necessary things like the different head. That's just how it is with NECA, when they do stuff like this, sometimes it means cheaping out on aspects in order to keep costs down.

 

[The Rider]

The version of the wolf predator had a new hand and other weapons.
So are those little things no a big problem for Neca.

 

[MaulFan]

It's still an added cost to mold that hand. Again, it comes down to what they will feel is or isn't necessary for the figure. The extra bits on him are added costs the P1 doesn't have, but you need them to make it the Elder and not the P1. You don't need an alternate hand to do that. If they feel they can sell the Elder without an alternate hand, they'll do it.

 

[The Rider]

It is not just about selling.
They want the fan also offer the best possible figure.
Tankman is himself a fan and he knows what we want.
He is also an artist.

The fact is, the changes are not expensive, Neca would change things.
E.g. New Eyes and new Paintjob at the new 7" Endoskeleton(not the BD Version).

 

[MaulFan]

Yes, they do care about fans, but they're also a cheap product, a good product, but they're 7", $15 figures. They draw the line at how far they go out of their way with figures differently than a Hot Toys or Sideshow.

In this case, if they feel like adding the extra hand to hold the knife isn't going to mean much to the majority of customers for the figure, they're not going to bother just because a small group of super fans may want it, it's an unnecessary cost for them, no matter how small or big that cost is, a small cost on the Elder and a small cost here and there over several other figures adds up to a lot over time.

There's nothing wrong with wanting the things you talk about, but it seems like you don't grasp how NECA handles things in order to get the most money for the least work. The T2 line is a great example. Are there different parts to each figure, yes, but those parts are necessary ones to make the variant, and those figures need to be variant enough to sell to people. The Elder, in paint, portrait, and some costume details, is already significantly different from the P1, things that might be nice or neat to have on the figure but aren't viewed as necessary to make the figure have selling appeal won't be done.

 

[The Rider]

In fact, they do not have to make a new hand, Neca can "mirror" the Sculpt of the left Hand(to make a right Hand).
For such forms is possible.

In the T2 line has changed to every detail so that it exactly.
There are no mistakes.

 

[MaulFan]

In the T2 line has changed to every detail so that it exactly.
There are no mistakes.

The T2 line changed what was necessary, but they still recycled. Pescadero and Cybderdyne use the same midsection, legs, feet and arms, Man or Machine uses the same legs feet and midsection sculpts as the other 2 and shares the portrait sculpt from the Cyberdyne.

If I were the guys at NECA making the business choices, I wouldn't deem a hand to hold the knife as a necessary add on, it's not as though he fights with the knife, he basically walks on screen, hands over the gun and walks off, the figure represents him fine as is, could represent him even better with the hand sure, but it's not a necessary change and therefore is likely viewed as an unnecessary cost.

I'm sure Tankman can share a fair number of stories about things he'd have liked to do but the big wigs wouldn't go for.

You just can't expect NECA to make every little tweak and add on like Hot Toys might, it'll never happen.

 

[The Rider]

Do not think so negative.
In the T2 figures was just changed the order it's true.
New arms, new legs, new weapons, new heads.
Wolf Predator also had new parts, only for the versions.
Why Neca should not also change the small details to make it true?

In the film he had a necklace, jewelry to the dreads, a different eye color, and the dagger in the other Hand.
And these things are important, because just as he was in the movie(movie-accurate).
Incidentally, the HT have a wrong color for the body.
A degree of change must be already.
Neca has finally saved the cost of the entire body.

But I think we've got different opinions.
This is not bad.
To me it was the Post's only about the Tankman know what is wrong, because he now works at the Elder.

 

[Sabres21768]

Please, let's not start this again...seriously.

Rider, you're just repeating yourself OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER again.

Kyle doesn't need to read the same monotonous crap from you everytime he comes into this thread.
I'm sure he's seen it. You got your point out there, now give it a damn rest.

ENOUGH!

 

[MaulFan]

And I think it's safe to say, it's not as though missing certain features is what Kyle's after, he does as much as NECA lets him.

 

[The Rider]

Let's hope NECA will give Kyle free hand...
He'd just said he and Randy are
wondering what new Predator-stuff could be presented either...