Premium Format New Sideshow Spider-Man (Comic) PF

[Josh-A-Tron]

Okay, real stats time people, and yes I'm a nerd for doing this
As of today Forum members have only reported receiving 78 Spider-man PF's, most of that total is EX's. That's just over 3% of the EX total ES of 2500. That's how small a percentage we make up.
Of those 78 statues, 49 were said to have no flaws or were deemed acceptable by the owner via comments on the board. That's just about 63%. 29 statues came with issues that required a replacement or refund. That's 37% of the statues received. Of those only 7 members reported replacements and only 3 reported the replacement resolving the issue. And with all that only 2 member reported returning the statue for a full refund.

Now, with all the yelping and moaning you'd think that hundreds of issues were reported, but no. Now 37% of the statues received kinda sucks, but when you put into perspective, that's just a tick over 1% of the EX ES and it's nothing compared to the total ES.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Okay, real stats time people, and yes I'm a nerd for doing this
As of today Forum members have only reported receiving 78 Spider-man PF's, most of that total is EX's. That's just over 3% of the EX total ES of 2500. That's how small a percentage we make up.
Of those 78 statues, 49 were said to have no flaws or were deemed acceptable by the owner via comments on the board. That's just about 63%. 29 statues came with issues that required a replacement or refund. That's 37% of the statues received. Of those only 7 members reported replacements and only 3 reported the replacement resolving the issue. And with all that only 2 member reported returning the statue for a full refund.

Now, with all the yelping and moaning you'd think that hundreds of issues were reported, but no. Now 37% of the statues received kinda sucks, but when you put into perspective, that's just a tick over 1% of the EX ES and it's nothing compared to the total ES.

 

[Armymedic1980]

Only if those people got to the point of being "higher ups" but that doesn't happen

You don't need no higher-ups as you put it for that to happen. We only need plenty of these guys that represent the force of freedom.

 

[krzykoopa]

You don't need no higher-ups as you put it for that to happen. We only need plenty of these guys that represent the force of freedom.

Hahaha I cant even

 

[DarthChrisDK]

Okay, real stats time people, and yes I'm a nerd for doing this
As of today Forum members have only reported receiving 78 Spider-man PF's, most of that total is EX's. That's just over 3% of the EX total ES of 2500. That's how small a percentage we make up.
Of those 78 statues, 49 were said to have no flaws or were deemed acceptable by the owner via comments on the board. That's just about 63%. 29 statues came with issues that required a replacement or refund. That's 37% of the statues received. Of those only 7 members reported replacements and only 3 reported the replacement resolving the issue. And with all that only 2 member reported returning the statue for a full refund.

Now, with all the yelping and moaning you'd think that hundreds of issues were reported, but no. Now 37% of the statues received kinda sucks, but when you put into perspective, that's just a tick over 1% of the EX ES and it's nothing compared to the total ES.

Thank you for that.
Although we can't assume that the remaining 97% had 0% issues. But I doubt that the ratio is the same. Usually, the ones who have issues are more "willing" to come forth with their story.

 

[Collectorcol]

So... There's been plenty of issues reported?

 

[Chronos1919]

So... There's been plenty of issues reported?

That's what I got out of it. That's a decent sized sample group and 37% is a terrible percentage to have issues. Isn't the acceptable failure rate with manufacturing somewhere around 3%?

 

[Josh-A-Tron]

So... There's been plenty of issues reported?

That's what I got out of it. That's a decent sized sample group and 37% is a terrible percentage to have issues. Isn't the acceptable failure rate with manufacturing somewhere around 3%?

...of course it is. Its only the same size sample group that lets candidates think they'll win when they really lose by 20 percentage points.

You guys are awesome.

 

[Josh-A-Tron]

Here let me try to put it more simple terms. What we do on this forum is as if there were only 300 made(instead of 2500 and another 5000), we open 3 of the first batch, 2 are good and one is bad and we proclaim the rest of the run is the same without positively knowing.

And we do that with every single statue.

 

[savageHULK]

Agree. People seem to misunderstand the scale of these releases some times...

 

[Collectorcol]

Cross Section: A typical or representative sample of a larger group.

 

[Chronos1919]

Here let me try to put it more simple terms.

It wasn't a misunderstanding of your "complex" math. A sample of nearly 100 statues is substantial and the only evidence we have as to the ratio of damaged statues. It's not 100% accurate but it shows that a fair amount of statues arrived damaged. I'm assuming you've never taken a statistics class?

On the other hand, you're assuming that the actual ratio of damaged statues is much lower, based on what? Hopes and dreams?

 

[savageHULK]

He's only saying people are jumping to conclusions about the Quality of the lot as a whole.

The likelihood of the people on this forum having issues with smaller paint defects, scratches, or noticing repaired fingers is much more likely on these forums than the other 7200 people that buy these pieces. We as collectors are more picky than the average fan. Therefore, the number of reported cases on the forums, percentage wise, is destined to be higher than the rest of the sample.

I'm not saying others don't have issues, these are hand crafted pieces of art. It's destined to happen. I think he's just cautioning people to not jump to conclusions that this "Whole production is a flop" because "like a bunch of the people on these forums have issues with theirs"

 

[Centurion]

Son: "Mom, I got 37% of my test wrong."

Mom: "Well son, you were always a below average student."

 

[Chronos1919]

I think if anyone is taking the information in this thread and assuming that the whole production is a flop, they're overreacting. No one is saying that. It's understandable though, that people are concerned about what condition their statue is going to arrive in when other people are having issues. Especially when those issues are not unique.

 

[Josh-A-Tron]

It wasn't a misunderstanding of your "complex" math. A sample of nearly 100 statues is substantial and the only evidence we have as to the ratio of damaged statues. It's not 100% accurate but it shows that a fair amount of statues arrived damaged. I'm assuming you've never taken a statistics class?

On the other hand, you're assuming that the actual ratio of damaged statues is much lower, based on what? Hopes and dreams?

I'm not assuming the ratio is lower, what I'm saying is that in statistics a small sample set of say 3% of total number isn't going to be enough to assume that the entire statistical set will be the same. Especially on a production run. So while no I don't base anything on hopes and dreams you and the detractors on this forum base their assumptions on incomplete data sets. In doing so they assume that an entire run of statues will have the same issues. Which is stupid.

Not only that but to say that 37% of the 3% represents the whole would be to say that 37% damages occur, in which case Sideshow would not be the largest collectibles company around, they'd be out of business.

 

[Josh-A-Tron]

Son: "Mom, I got 37% of my test wrong."

Mom: "Well son, you were always a below average student."

This is what I'm talking about. It's more like Mom, I got one answer out of 3 wrong the teacher didn't grade the rest of my test.

I think if anyone is taking the information in this thread and assuming that the whole production is a flop, they're overreacting. No one is saying that. It's understandable though, that people are concerned about what condition their statue is going to arrive in when other people are having issues. Especially when those issues are not unique.

Really? see the statement above.

 

[Chronos1919]

I'm not assuming the ratio is lower, what I'm saying is that in statistics a small sample set of say 3% of total number isn't going to be enough to assume that the entire statistical set will be the same. Especially on a production run. So while no I don't base anything on hopes and dreams you and the detractors on this forum base their assumptions on incomplete data sets. In doing so they assume that an entire run of statues will have the same issues. Which is stupid.

Not only that but to say that 37% of the 3% represents the whole would be to say that 37% damages occur, in which case Sideshow would not be the largest collectibles company around, they'd be out of business.

Come on now, this is ridiculous. By receiving two damaged statues and saying that I'm going to keep going until I get one that isn't, I'm a detractor? I've consistently praised this statue. No one assumed that the entire run was damaged either. Quite a few people have posted about receiving statues that have no issues and others have congratulated them on receiving an excellent piece.

You're putting words in the mouths of others and fighting a war that doesn't exist.

 

[Chronos1919]

Son: "Mom, I got 37% of my test wrong."

Mom: "Well son, you were always a below average student."

We're equating a sample pool of statues that have defects to a single student scoring poorly on one test?

 

[Josh-A-Tron]

Come on now, this is ridiculous. By receiving two damaged statues and saying that I'm going to keep going until I get one that isn't, I'm a detractor? I've consistently praised this statue. No one assumed that the entire run was damaged either. Quite a few people have posted about receiving statues that have no issues and others have congratulated them on receiving an excellent piece.

You're putting words in the mouths of others and fighting a war that doesn't exist.

LOL, Would you like me to go back and quote the number of people who said that there were few good statues showing up and that there seemed to be more damages than good statues?