Next PF hint in article about Gandalf

[creature4000]

there's no way they'd waste a PF on a Nobody. I want a armored Moria ORC PF!!!!

The Ring Wraith wouldn't be that difficult.... they could use a wire for the structure where the head would be and stich the fabric over it.

I'd die for the Nine!!!!!!

 

[FrodoEyes]

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I'd die for the Nine!!!!!!

With that kind of talk, you could enter into their service!

 

[RoboDad]

Right now, as much as I hate to agree with the Arwen-hating Bodie The Indeed Cursed, , he's right. This line definitely needs a baddie that will sell well and appease the huge Bad Guy Fanbase. And Ringwraiths totally fit the bill. Add limited poseability, and there WILL be people who'll get nine of them.

Look at what this character did for the GG LOTR bust line. It's a no-brainer -- can't go wrong on the facial sculpt, and you can excel in the fabric and clothing department, which is Sideshow's major strength.

I don't think I agree Vlad, but then I'm not a big bad guy fan. Look at the PF Lurtz. Even with a reasonable ES of 1250 and an ASTOUNDING sculpt and AMAZING costume details, the regular edition isn't sold out, and the exclusive is barely holding its value on eBay (and even then not all of the time). If there are so many baddie fans out there, why haven't they all scooped up Lurtz?

Maybe some people got into the GG LOTR bust line for the wraith, but I didn't. I got into it for a (finally!) decent Viggo likeness, and the cool light-up staff on Gandalf. Of course, being the OCD completist that I am, I am going for the whole line, but that is another story.

And, as far as anyone actually buying nine PF Ringwraiths (at a total retail cost of over $2500), you don't really believe that, now do you?

 

[Seretur]

Hey, look two posts above. There's OCD, and then there's SSF OCD. (Look also in the Marvel thread.)

I mean, I agree. As much as I liked what I saw when they announced the PF line with Lurtz, I also bemoaned the character choice and wanted something more Tolkien-like for my own collection. Lurtz now looks more amazing than ever because Frodo and Gandalf underwhelmed, but I can see why every collector who wants a PF Lurtz would go straight for the Exclusive. And why others are currently wary to obtain it with all the unceirtanty over the future and worth of the line as a whole. Premium Format is still a range of collectibles that rarely hold their desirability and aftermarket value in the best of cases, and LOTR is, so far, not the best of cases.

Anyway, a nice Wraith with a nice low ES might be a good ticket for Sideshow, I stand by that. Weta never produced a Wraith statue -- just a bust, a mounted Wraith, and two Witch-Kings. So that's one thing to keep in mind. The other is that all their Wraiths sold well -- and GG's, too. (Yes, I'm also falling under GG bust OCD curse, again, just when I thought I was out...) So that's just where I feel SS might hit their easiest homer in this line.

Not being a bad guy fan myself either, I probably wouldn't get a Sideshow PF Ringwraith, though.

 

[crazytrain]

I don't think I agree Vlad, but then I'm not a big bad guy fan. Look at the PF Lurtz. Even with a reasonable ES of 1250 and an ASTOUNDING sculpt and AMAZING costume details, the regular edition isn't sold out, and the exclusive is barely holding its value on eBay (and even then not all of the time). If there are so many baddie fans out there, why haven't they all scooped up Lurtz?

Thing is, Lurtz wasn't in the books and, whilst the PF is absolutely amazing, it therefore isn't as desirable as a Ringwraith would be. I thought long and hard before buying Lurtz (to be honest I finally decided to just try one as I'd never seen or had a PF before). I'm glad I got it as it is such a great piece, but I can understand why people pass on it.

The overwhelming "image" of the bad guys in LotR is the Ringwraiths (RWoS is one of my favourite SSW statues); they're iconic and I'm pretty sure they would fly off the shelves if they were the next one. As regards a woman, just doesn't cut it for me - we need something iconic and none of the women fit that bill - maybe when we've had at least 10 PFs, then an Arwen or Eowyn would be a reasonable idea, but right now this line is in serious need of resuscitation and, for me, a Ringwraith would fit the bill perfectly!! (As would anything in armour!! (Theoden, Eomer, Gimli, take your pick))

 

[KitFisto]

I don't think there is ANY way that more than a very small hadfull of people would buy 9 wraiths.

 

[FlyAndFight]

I agree with crazytrain. Regardless on how great an Arwen or Galadriel or Eowyn PF may look, it's not going to be a big seller. Unless she's got a low ES, she's going to languish in the SS warehouse for some time.

It was my understanding that the PF line was to capture those characters that would benefit most from the format. In other words, those with elaborate outfits/costumes and/or armor and not necessarily the main characters. In my opinion, the following characters would have been perfect representations for, not only the format, but of Middle Earth in general:

1. Gandalf the Grey

2. Ringwraith

3. Gondorian Soldier (Fountain Guard preferred)

4. Last Alliance High Elven Warrior

5. Moria Orc in armor

Within this small group, we can see not only variations in outfits but in races representative of Middle Earth. Just a thought...

 

[crazytrain]

I agree with crazytrain. Regardless on how great an Arwen or Galadriel or Eowyn PF may look, it's not going to be a big seller. Unless she's got a low ES, she's going to languish in the SS warehouse for some time.

It was my understanding that the PF line was to capture those characters that would benefit most from the format. In other words, those with elaborate outfits/costumes and/or armor and not necessarily the main characters. In my opinion, the following characters would have been perfect representations for, not only the format, but of Middle Earth in general:

1. Gandalf the Grey

2. Ringwraith

3. Gondorian Soldier (Fountain Guard preferred)

4. Last Alliance High Elven Warrior

5. Moria Orc in armor

Within this small group, we can see not only variations in outfits but in races representative of Middle Earth. Just a thought...

Well, seeing as you agreed with me, I'll agree with you

Just add a Rohan character to that list (in third place) and its about perfect both in characters and in order of release...

 

[The Josh]

I agree with crazytrain. Regardless on how great an Arwen or Galadriel or Eowyn PF may look, it's not going to be a big seller. Unless she's got a low ES, she's going to languish in the SS warehouse for some time.

I know I won't be buying them. As cool as they might look I have other items that rank a lot higher than these three ladies.

 

[KAOSINLA]

No femalia for me....A Ringwraith is wanted!

 

[WrathofSauron]

A Ringwraith it will be................

 

[KitFisto]

A Ringwraith it will be................

I don't know if I'd get this or pass. It's a fairly boring figure IMO. Just a big black robe.

 

[FlyAndFight]

I don't know if I'd get this or pass. It's a fairly boring figure IMO. Just a big black robe.

And that's why the $125.00 price tag will be a HUGE hit!!!

 

[KitFisto]

And that's why the $125.00 price tag will be a HUGE hit!!!

I have not read all the comments, but to be honest I can't see a RW costing much more than that. No face sculpt at all. The body does not have to have any detail at all oteher than the hands and feet. It would be a very simple piece really.

If they charged $250 for a robe with hands and feet I'd be sure to pass.

 

[Rook]

Has this been confirmed? If so, I sure missed it...

Still, tough to get a dodgy likeness out of this one. But if it shows up looking more like a dementor, I'm out.

 

[The Mike]

If its a Ringwrath I'll probably pass dependant on price of course. Although I wouldn't mind seeing the Witch King in True Form as a PF....

 

[RoboDad]

I have not read all the comments, but to be honest I can't see a RW costing much more than that. No face sculpt at all. The body does not have to have any detail at all other than the hands and feet. It would be a very simple piece really.

If they charged $250 for a robe with hands and feet I'd be sure to pass.

The big question (if they have chosen a Ringwraith, of course) is how much of the unexposed armor would be sculpted? If it is just the hands and feet, then I agree, it would either have to have a pretty reasonable price, or else it would likely be a poor seller.

 

[Radagaster]

I don't know if I'd get this or pass. It's a fairly boring figure IMO. Just a big black robe.

I didn't think of this one, but after reading it, I agree. Thing is, RWOS is so iconic, that making a PF version of a Wraith in a lot of robes doesn't cut it for me. The only exception to this one would be the Witchking, but then again, we already have many variations of him.

Wasn't Sideshow's plan to showcase something they felt was underrepresented or undervalued? I'm trying to recall the exact wording they used (so we can hold them to that).

 

[LOTRFan]

The big question (if they have chosen a Ringwraith, of course) is how much of the unexposed armor would be sculpted? If it is just the hands and feet, then I agree, it would either have to have a pretty reasonable price, or else it would likely be a poor seller.

Sculpted or ABS .... I mean really, would they really use polystone on something completely hidden.

 

[The Josh]

If they go with real metal for the boots and gloves on these guys I could see it at around $200. I'd get a RW in a heartbeat thats for sure. One of the reasons is to go with the RWOS which is one of the best pieces in my collection.

If it's something like a High Elven Warrior (which would look cool), Arwen, Eowyn, Galadriel, etc those aren't gonna be powerful enough to get people excited. Outside of us that are die hards and honestly the three ladies don't make me want to buy them. My dollars for PF are tight and for me I want to see things like a RW, Eomer, Faramir, Theoden, Strider, Elessar, GTG.