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[SNIKT1950]

5min into any exchange with Snikt.

Nah, you've simply failed to provide any evidence to prove your point, while I keep providing evidence to disprove it.

 

[LoveMinusZero]

5 comic books and 3 action figures only reinforces what I said, and what's true, Disney put the prequels on the back burner. This has nothing to do with whether or not I think the prequels are good or bad, it's just the move Disney made.

 

[SNIKT1950]

5 comic books and 3 action figures only re-enforces what I said, and what's true, Disney put the prequels on the back burner. This has nothing to do with whether or not I think the prequels are good or bad, it's just the move Disney made.

Once again, you need proof.

 

[LoveMinusZero]

*reinforces

If you took off your prequel-coloured glasses for five minutes you'd see it. This isn't a courtroom, chief, use your common sense. The halt of nearly all prequel related material after the Disney buy should be evidence enough for any reasonable thinking person.

 

[SNIKT1950]

*reinforces

If you took off your prequel-coloured glasses for five minutes you'd see it. This isn't a courtroom, chief, use your common sense. The halt of nearly all prequel related material after the Disney buy should be evidence enough for any reasonable thinking person.

You're imagining things, bruh lol

See, this is the convo right now:

You: "Disney is halting PT-related material because I say so."

Me: "Last time I went into a store with SW stuff there was no sign of what you're suggesting."

You: "Nah, you just can't see it. But I can."

Me: "But I've literally bought PT stuff recently."

You: "Doesn't matter. I'm right about this."

Me: "You're delusional."

That last part is verbatim btw.

 

[LoveMinusZero]

What does "nearly" mean, Skint? I can never figure out if you are deliberately misunderstanding conversations with people on this board or it's genuine. Do you honestly believe because you bought some comicbooks that Disney is just full steam ahead with the prequels, that you didn't notice the drop off of practically anything prequel after Disney took over? I just can't take you seriously.

 

[IrishJedi]

There absolutely has been a big drop off in PT merchandise, particularly with high-end products. And for the most part that will continue. PT stuff will trickle out, but won't be nearly at the rate it was pre-2012 for some, at least. And I don't need "proof"... I get this straight from the people who know.

 

[SNIKT1950]

What does "nearly" mean, Skint? I can never figure out if you are deliberately misunderstanding conversations with people on this board or it's genuine. Do you honestly believe because you bought some comicbooks that Disney is just full steam ahead with the prequels, that you didn't notice the drop off of practically anything prequel after Disney took over? I just can't take you seriously.

Dude, I've respectfully indulged your rambling for two pages now and yet you continue to make claims you can't support.

Example #347 of why I ain't buying what you're selling. Bought this for my kid last week. Its like a "Where's Waldo meets Star Wars book".

So the cover clearly points to a TFA-focused product.

But when you look inside...

But I guess this is Disney's way of distancing themselves from the PT...yeah, no.

With toys, props, comics, books, etc still making the rounds, nothing points to Disney "putting the PT in the backburner".

 

[LoveMinusZero]

I'm glad you added a storybook to your arsenal of "proof", but no one said the PT wasn't canon, nor that it was trashed completely. Anyone with half a brain could see the majority PT output end when Disney took over, I don't get why that's so hard for you to understand. It's not imaginary. Just like IrishJedi said, prequel stuff will still trickle out. Enjoy your storybook.

 

[SNIKT1950]

Anyone with half a brain could see the majority PT output end

Lmao my six-year-old Son has more common sense than you, guy.

This is literally the millionth time you repeat your nonsensical "PT output being halted" argument yet still haven't managed to provide ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE to back it up.

If you wanna continue the debate just know that right now all you've contributed amounts to "Disney will phase out PT output because I say so."

Brilliant argument.

 

[IrishJedi]

Neither of you two gents is really right.

LFL/Disney is not "phasing out" or "ending" PT merchandising. There will still be some. But they have and will continue to scale it way back for the foreseeable future, particularly where high-end, adult collectors are concerned. You won't see the near avalanche of PT merch like we had pre-2012 for a long, long time. And even then it won't be the same because then we're talking 3 out of 12+ movies.

The Prequel era had its day and its time, just as the Vintage OT era did. Those characters aren't completely going away in regards to merchandising and products, but they won't be as ubiquitous, either.

You two seem to be arguing over black or white scenario, when the truth is nice slushy gray.

 

[LoveMinusZero]

I'm not guy, friend.

When did I say "Disney will phase out PT output"? Even sarcastically you misunderstand what I've said.

This wasn't a debate, this was me bashing my head off a wall when I should have not come to this board. You're easily one of the most tiresome people I've encountered here and I've been a member since 2008.

 

[LoveMinusZero]

Neither of you two gents is really right.

LFL/Disney is not "phasing out" or "ending" PT merchandising. There will still be some. But they have and will continue to scale it way back for the foreseeable future, particularly where high-end, adult collectors are concerned. You won't see the near avalanche of PT merch like we had pre-2012 for a long, long time. And even then it won't be the same because then we're talking 3 out of 12+ movies.

The Prequel era had its day and its time, just as the Vintage OT era did. Those characters aren't completely going away in regards to merchandising and products, but they won't be as ubiquitous, either.

You two seem to be arguing over black or white scenario, when the truth is nice slushy gray.

I agree with what you're saying, I wasn't being black and white, I just said Disney put the PT on the back burner. (or rather, that Disney doing so wasn't imaginary) That doesn't mean it's ended or being phased out, just that the huge amount of prequel output pre-Disney was ended. Just a trickle now, like you said earlier.

 

[LoveMinusZero]

Anyway, I like 1/6 figures. What could be next you say? A good question indeed..

 

[SNIKT1950]

And I don't need "proof"... I get this straight from the people who know.

2013: The following was said and repeated by every PT hater on every forum known to man:

I know a guy who's working on Episode VII who says Disney won't be using any CG or green screen to distance the movie from the prequels.

12/17/2015:

Nothing personal, but that's why I never take the "I know someone" claims people make online seriously.

 

[TonTon]

If they nailed Cushing's likeness it'd be a guaranteed purchase for me. If it was so-so like Old Ben, I'd pass. Figures are just too expensive now to settle. (And visually the *only* interesting thing to me about characters like Tarkin or Ben represented in this format *is* the likeness to the actor... Good representation of the 'character' is not enough).

Yeah, if they really nail an OT figure the way they did with Mandarin or some others, it would likely be a purchase for me even if it wasn't planned. With how good the Leia headsculpt looks it would be pretty awesome if they A) did Tarkin and B) did it justice, as they have some great scenes together. I picked up Ben as I figured I'd prefer to have him than not have him, but the likeness is lacking. Still an amazing figure though. But Tarkin would need to be stellar to push some folks over the edge.

It's not one of Luceno's best, but it's a decent read. Some good stuff in there about the earlier days of the Empire.

Cool. I never read any of the EU stuff back in the day, maybe a book or two. Not sure how much I'll be able to get into, but I've started reading the SW comic and picked up the TFA novelization (lost momentum on reading that when I went to see the flick for the 2nd and 3rd time ). And then picked up the Tarkin novel and a book that has a bit of backstory on Rey, Finn, and Poe--that one was written by Greg Rucka, whose comics I like so I figure it can't be too bad.

 

[IrishJedi]

There's another angle to this I haven't seen discussed here yet. And that's this: Now, more than ever, Lucasfilm & Disney understand the power and appeal of nostalgia, particularly when it comes to STAR WARS. Some believe (and I tend to agree) that there is value is letting certain things simmer down for a while in order to re-build mystique and then tap into any nostalgic connection it may have when it returns. The Prequels/Clone Wars have been so ubiquitous for the past 16 years that it's hard to get or feel nostalgic about any of it. LFL sees and understands this, too. It's not an evil, malevolent intention to bury the prequels forever... They'd just like to slow that way down for a while in order to gauge its true long-term appeal within the zeitgeist. If PT stuff demand grows, it'll return in a big way. But, again, not likely for at least 5 years or so. Until then, it'll continue the new normal: it'll trickle out.

 

[SNIKT1950]

There's another angle to this I haven't seen discussed here yet. And that's this: Now, more than ever, Lucasfilm & Disney understand the power and appeal of nostalgia, particularly when it comes to STAR WARS. Some believe (and I tend to agree) that there is value is letting certain things simmer down for a while in order to re-build mystique and then tap into any nostalgic connection it may have when it returns. The Prequels/Clone Wars have been so ubiquitous for the past 16 years that it's hard to get or feel nostalgic about any of it. LFL sees and understands this, too. It's not an evil, malevolent intention to bury the prequels forever... They'd just like to slow that way down for a while in order to gauge its true long-term appeal within the zeitgeist. If PT stuff demand grows, it'll return in a big way. But, again, not likely for at least 5 years or so. Until then, it'll continue the new normal: it'll trickle out.

Agreed 100% on the power of nostalgia. Had TFA not been a direct sequel to ROTJ there's absolutely no way it would have grossed $2 Billion in one month.

 

[IrishJedi]

Nothing personal, but that's why I never take the "I know someone" claims people make online seriously.

Fair enough. I get that. But you're relatively "new" here. I think you might find other longtime old guys like me on these Forums might back me up. I've been around the block and back.

That said, anyone who claimed that these new movies wouldn't have ANY CG or green screen use was clearly insane. People always have to go with the extremes. It's so odd.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Everything needs to go away for a certain amount of time -- including this discussion. There's no winning this -- its like trying to change someone's mind about their religious beliefs or political persuasion.

I do believe the PT will be exploited much like the OT is now... but as Irish is trying to say, you need to make people miss it first. I have always expected a resurgence in PT merchandise to be exploited in advance of the next Sequel. Honestly, we'll all be a little sick of the OT by this time next year.