NFL Thread

[karamazov80]

Cam has shown some grown and maturity this year. In the past years he pointed the blame on others when things went bad, but now he's putting that stuff on his shoulders and speaking highly of his teammates when winning; not taking credit.

RG3 on the other hand, as others have pointed out, is allegedly very selfish and there are reasons why his linemen don't help him up. (Actions speak louder than words)
Apparently he has asked coaches to not show film where he has bad plays (former Baylor players said this was true in college) and he was given a parking spot at the stadium next to the exit so that he can quickly leave after games to avoid any media outside after press conferences.

I guess it's easy to look mature when you are winning

 

[DinoDB1975]

I feel bad for RGIII. I think he gets criticized for the most insane reasons. He seems like a good, young smart guy. Granted, I don't follow the 'Skins all too much, but I see him as a victim in this whole mess. I know there are people who can't stand him...

I wouldn't call him a victim either. He talks too much and always seems to say the wrong things. There is a reason why is lineman don't help him off the ground anymore.

His people (dad) have not helped his cause. In some ways he has come off as a spoiled little brat, in some ways seems to come off as a victim of bad circumstances. I think the success he had last year (due to his legs) was the worst thing that could have happened to him.

RG3, I haven't followed him too closely, either, but he does seem to say things that undermine his coach. And to me, that's a huge nono for an athlete. Supposedly he has a close relationship with their owner, and goes over the head of Shanahan sometimes, which is another big problem. If you don't have a clear hierarchy, with the coach at the top of game-related decisions, then you have major problems. A big part of that is the coach's fault of course, but the players need to have respect for the way things should be done. He should be voicing his concerns privately to the appropriate people, and not publicly.

Cam has shown some grown and maturity this year. In the past years he pointed the blame on others when things went bad, but now he's putting that stuff on his shoulders and speaking highly of his teammates when winning; not taking credit.

RG3 on the other hand, as others have pointed out, is allegedly very selfish and there are reasons why his linemen don't help him up. (Actions speak louder than words)
Apparently he has asked coaches to not show film where he has bad plays (former Baylor players said this was true in college) and he was given a parking spot at the stadium next to the exit so that he can quickly leave after games to avoid any media outside after press conferences.

I live in the DC area and get inundated with RGIII news, and by extension, news on Washington's football team. Although I'm a Cowboys' fan and have facetiously referred to him as RGMe in a few posts, I have nothing against the guy. He seems like a genuinely smart kid who unfortunately has believed some of his own hype. He didn't do his coaching staff or the organization any favors last offseason saying/tweeting that he was "All in for week 1". Without any reps in the preseason, he was bound to be rusty (and as we all know, by no means is he a pocket passer). Just because James Andrews did the procedure for Adrian Peterson as well and AD had a career year afterwards, there was guarantee Griffin would come back as strong.

His leadership skills (or lack thereof) have been questioned. After each Washington loss, it was always "We have to play better", and he was taking passive aggressive shots at the coaching staff. This was most notable after the second Philly game, where Washington came back, but RGIII threw a stupid pick in the end zone. Veterans such as Santana Moss chaffed when Griffin didn't take responsibility and own up to his mistakes; instead, he took pot shots at the coaching staff, saying the "Eagles knew what we were calling".

Griffin has denied the reports saying that he didn't want video of his bad plays being shown, saying that some one leaked that report for "character assassination". Earlier this week, when asked about the ESPN report that Shanahan considered quitting last season due to RGIII's relationship with Snyder, he replied "I have no comment...[this story] is not relevant to my life". WTF? Yes, it is relevant.

By no means is Griffin the only complicit one in this debacle. Sorry, but Shanahan has no business coaching anymore. His coaching record without Elway speaks for itself. And he didn't do himself any favors as well by hiring his son as the offensive coordinator.

But the biggest problem in all this? Owner Dan Snyder, who cultivates a star system with the Redskins. Snyder wants to be buddy buddy with his players. Snyder's personal security team accompanies Griffin out on the town. That parking spot referenced in the earlier post? It's actually inside the stadium, where NO players have ever had a parking spot before. From the Washington Post:

But then we hear about Robert Griffin III’s car being parked in the bowels of FedEx Field during the game for a painless exit afterward and a longtime employee calling another to say, “The kid’s got a parking space during the game? No one got that.”

Allegedly during last year's win over Baltimore, where RGIII was injured and Kirk Cousins came in to lead Washington to victory, Snyder spoke with Griffin in the locker room at length after the game...but didn't say a word to Cousins, who's locker was next to Griffins and had led Washington to victory. This infuriated Shanahan to no end.

All and all, it's a debacle here in DC.

 

[user 1190]

The Rams are probably upset Rg3 isn't finishing the season. They might end up with a worse pick now

 

[GodzillaSpawn]

Loved hearing everybody's input on RGIII. Some of the reports I haven't heard (the parking spot). Some I did, but took them with a grain of salt (where he allegedly asked to have his poor play not shown in meetings). This year has clearly been a mess for the organization and it seems RGIII is getting preferred treatment from around the organization and that can certainly rub others the wrong way. My only additional thing Ill bring into this is, and I wonder how it fits into the timeline, is how Shanahan played RGIII with his injury and let him get torn up in the playoffs. I wonder how that changed certain relationships within the organization...

 

[Tornadoflame]

Well RG3 is still leading the league in mental reps

That's what I like about Colin. Dude says absolutely nothing in three words. That's also why I like Russell. Dude says absolutely nothing in a million words.

 

[user 1190]

Well RG3 is still leading the league in mental reps

That's what I like about Colin. Dude says absolutely nothing in three words. That's also why I like Russell. Dude says absolutely nothing in a million words.

None of the young guys say to much. Luck doesnt say much and when he does is always the right thing. I don't think i heard single word from Tannehill.

 

[Darth Madden]

That's also why I like Russell. Dude says absolutely nothing in a million words.

Except for "Go Hawks" at the end of EVERY conversation.

 

[Tornadoflame]

None of the young guys say to much. Luck doesnt say much and when he does is always the right thing. I don't think i heard single word from Tannehill.

All except for one. I listened to RG3 ramble all day this morning. Kid doesn't know when to shut up.

And I probably still couldn't pick Tannehill out of a lineup and I've watched at least 5 Dolphins games this year.

 

[user 1190]

All except for one. I listened to RG3 ramble all day this morning. Kid doesn't know when to shut up.

And I probably still couldn't pick Tannehill out of a lineup and I've watched at least 5 Dolphins games this year.

That was what I mention outside RG3. I thought it was known tht RG3 won't shut up

Yeah Tannehill is not really talked about or shown. Although if his wife is with him he should be shown all the time.

 

[user 1190]

Man the guys who do Thur night games are horrible.

 

[Centurion]

Broncos finally starting to show some life in the 2nd half.

 

[user 1190]

Come on lets finally close one of these games out

 

[BadMoon]

Nice win for the Chargers.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Nice win for the Chargers.

Yup..we needed that one

 

[ProgMatinee]

Ugly loss by the Broncos. Reminded me a lot of the Colts loss. Just some really stupid crap going on between the defense and special teams. Kudos to the Charges defense for not letting Manning take over the game.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

What's scary is that it makes the Bengals that much harder to get bumped

 

[Grenouille]

The NFL Playoff machine is active if people want to figure out seeding or how your team can still make the playoffs.

https://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

 

[Black Knight]

Man the guys who do Thur night games are horrible.

Agreed.

 

[Tornadoflame]

Got two items in the mail this weekend.

 

[Black Knight]

Has Anyone ... Ever made a Field Yet with them McFarlane figures ? .... I don't follow the figures, I have a Couple, but not many ... was curious.

I swear it looks Like Kap is trying to throw the Ball Outta bounds already. He must be in Seattle. lol.