No Time To Die (2020 Bond film)
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jye4ever
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Wait CR only had a 41 million opening! 
That franchise was damaged hard.
That franchise was damaged hard.
The Clown Prince of Crime
Super Freak
Wait CR only had a 41 million opening!
That franchise was damaged hard.
Yeah, Batman Begins which came out the previous year opened with 48 mill too.
To put in perspective, both SW ep III and Harry Potter 4 opened with 100+ in 2005.
jye4ever
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I’m ready for a Bond reboot right now I hope they announce the new guy tomorrow lolYeah, Batman Begins which came out the previous year opened with 48 mill too.
To put in perspective, both SW ep III and Harry Potter 4 opened with 100+ in 2005.
2025 is when you'll get it lol
The Clown Prince of Crime
Super Freak
Good year for a Bond film.
Yeah I know.. I was busy this weekend but to be honest my excitement for this Bond film just is not there for whatever reason.. No way I wait to see this film back when it was first suppose to come out.
Ouch.... Obviously my fault.Wow Venom/Shang/BW destroyed NTTD opening weekend.
Only 56 million ouch!
Venom yikes
jye4ever
Broke and happy
Yuck.. Never liked wither of those films. TLD was a bore and LTK looked like it was made for TV. I appreciate what they were trying to do with Bond in those films but thought they failed.
You know I am a big Bond fan also... I have no clue what is going on with me with this film.. I blame the time of year they picked.. Its Horror movie time not Bond time. They should have waited till November to release it.. Isn't that when they usually release Bond?
IDK.. One thing I can say.. My lack of excitement probably means I will love this film when I see it
jye4ever
Broke and happy
Totally spot on!
Sorry Matt!
I did like the gibraltor opening but that was it.
He was a decent Bond though.
Yeah I started watching one of the Moore ones the other day and I couldn’t get into it at the time lolMore than the Roger Moore films?
punisher1974
Super Freak
Don't tell Khev
I really like the living daylights. Great score (Barry's last Bond one), good song (co written by Barry so that figures), Dalton's first performance (very true to the books, which Dalton apparently studied to get into character) and a welcome change from the later Moore movies. And the second best Aston Martin in the series.
Great and menacing henchman in Necros (who doesn't need to rely upon a facial deformity or gimic), every scene he is in is good (he was also very difficult for Bond to dispatch ... not so for John McClane who just pushed him down some stairs in die hard).
A Bond girl, Kara, that is actually a fully formed character and has an arc in the movie. You feel Bond growing to like and respect her more as the movie progresses and there last moment together has a hint of sadness but also happiness that Bond was able to save her from his world and return her to her own, there is a rare sense of closure there not often seen in Bond movies. Interestingly the last scene together doesn't end with them in bed and a sexual pun before the credits roll which I think subconsciously leaves you with the impression that she wasn't just your usual conquest for 007. Perhaps what helps to build on this feeling is that Bond is not off bonking other would be Bond girls throughout the film (much like No Time To Die) although I understand that this was a deliberate ploy by the film makers to tone down Bond's promiscuity because it was during the height of the aids crisis. The combination of the above the chemistry between the actors makes their relationship feel a bit more real than the usual superficial affair.
There is also a great little scene between Bond and rival (later turned ally) Pushkin which really stresses that Bond is a dangerous man. I need to watch the movie again but I remember it having some tense moments, good cinematography etc.
The one weakness to me lies in the main villains and the final confrontation between Bond and Whittaker, which unfortunately follows the awesome action set piece (air plane scene) just before it and cannot be anything other than a slightly deflating moment. I don't need to see Bond kill a nerd in his toy room, I think that hits a little too close to home haha.
The plot involves twists and turns but is a bit more on the realistic side than most bonds, involving a corrupt double crossing soviet official raising money smuggling drugs to buy weapons from a western arms dealer to help perpetuate the cold war conflict (it also involves the taliban as 'good guys' so falls into that awkward rambo 3 area). It's all just a touch too real in a way and not really exotic enough for Bond but a stronger central villain performance would have really elevated this film. In any case it's still one of my favourites.
I like Licence to Kill as well. It's a lot darker than TLD but unfortunately lacks a good bond girl, both are disposable conquest material. On the plus side, Felix Leiter has an awful encounter with a shark and his poor wife (which gives the film stakes), the revenge plot / rogue agent idea had not been overplayed by the series at this point, it has a henchmen getting his head popped in that pressurized room and another being crushed by that pressing machine. Q as a field agent as well, cool tanker chase and a brilliant central villain. I really liked the tv cult as the front for the drugs operation too. Another more 'realistic' bond film and being set in the 80s it just has that 80s action movie vibe that I like. I prefer TLD but Licence to Kill left an impression on my young impressionable mind!
Don't dismiss the Dalton movies especially if you like Daniel Craig as he is effectively the successor to Dalton's Bond.
Great and menacing henchman in Necros (who doesn't need to rely upon a facial deformity or gimic), every scene he is in is good (he was also very difficult for Bond to dispatch ... not so for John McClane who just pushed him down some stairs in die hard).
A Bond girl, Kara, that is actually a fully formed character and has an arc in the movie. You feel Bond growing to like and respect her more as the movie progresses and there last moment together has a hint of sadness but also happiness that Bond was able to save her from his world and return her to her own, there is a rare sense of closure there not often seen in Bond movies. Interestingly the last scene together doesn't end with them in bed and a sexual pun before the credits roll which I think subconsciously leaves you with the impression that she wasn't just your usual conquest for 007. Perhaps what helps to build on this feeling is that Bond is not off bonking other would be Bond girls throughout the film (much like No Time To Die) although I understand that this was a deliberate ploy by the film makers to tone down Bond's promiscuity because it was during the height of the aids crisis. The combination of the above the chemistry between the actors makes their relationship feel a bit more real than the usual superficial affair.
There is also a great little scene between Bond and rival (later turned ally) Pushkin which really stresses that Bond is a dangerous man. I need to watch the movie again but I remember it having some tense moments, good cinematography etc.
The one weakness to me lies in the main villains and the final confrontation between Bond and Whittaker, which unfortunately follows the awesome action set piece (air plane scene) just before it and cannot be anything other than a slightly deflating moment. I don't need to see Bond kill a nerd in his toy room, I think that hits a little too close to home haha.
The plot involves twists and turns but is a bit more on the realistic side than most bonds, involving a corrupt double crossing soviet official raising money smuggling drugs to buy weapons from a western arms dealer to help perpetuate the cold war conflict (it also involves the taliban as 'good guys' so falls into that awkward rambo 3 area). It's all just a touch too real in a way and not really exotic enough for Bond but a stronger central villain performance would have really elevated this film. In any case it's still one of my favourites.
I like Licence to Kill as well. It's a lot darker than TLD but unfortunately lacks a good bond girl, both are disposable conquest material. On the plus side, Felix Leiter has an awful encounter with a shark and his poor wife (which gives the film stakes), the revenge plot / rogue agent idea had not been overplayed by the series at this point, it has a henchmen getting his head popped in that pressurized room and another being crushed by that pressing machine. Q as a field agent as well, cool tanker chase and a brilliant central villain. I really liked the tv cult as the front for the drugs operation too. Another more 'realistic' bond film and being set in the 80s it just has that 80s action movie vibe that I like. I prefer TLD but Licence to Kill left an impression on my young impressionable mind!
Don't dismiss the Dalton movies especially if you like Daniel Craig as he is effectively the successor to Dalton's Bond.
Felicity Shagwell isn't it?
jye4ever
Broke and happy
Damn this post alone made me abandon JAWS and go rethink my life lol
Saw this tonight in IMAX, really enjoyed it. Quite a lot in fact. I was shocked how fast the 2 hr 45 minute run time flew past. Craig Bond films are the opposite of Star Trek, only the odd ones are good, lol.
If I remember correctly Goldeneye was written for Dalton's Bond before he got replaced by Brosnan which is why its tone is more in line with the two films that preceded it than those that followed.
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Licence to Kill has the best 18-wheeler stunts of any movie IMO.
