Nolan Dark Knight Trilogy (BB/TDK/TDKR)

[CelticPredator]

I doubt Nolan is the one to blame. He didn't make this box set.

 

[batfan08]

No, but if you're thinking he had no input on what kind of special features there were, you're lying to yourself. I love the guy as a director, but he needs to stop being such a ****ing prude when it comes to this stuff. No deleted scenes, no Joker stuff; it's ridiculous. I just can't tell if he's that dedicated to not letting people see this stuff, or if he's just awaiting the day when people won't touch another set unless that stuff is included.

 

[crows]

I doubt Nolan is the one to blame. He didn't make this box set.

he didn't make the Box set but Im sure he told them to never ever show the Joker stuff. I mean...

 

[CelticPredator]

I doubt it. Nolan doesn't give a **** about Batman any more. If he could, he would murder every thing to do with the franchise for ruining his life.

 

[spindrift]

well if it was up to Nolan, Doctor Parnassus would have NEVER been released.....


I mean seriously Nolan hides anything Behind the Scenes joker. Why release Dark Knight again at all?
Why doesn't Nolan try to BAN Dark Knight from being sold ever again? It has Heath Ledger as the Joker in it, Isn't that just as bad as some behind the scenes footage?
why even keep releasing and selling Dark Knight at this point? (sarcasm..)

I mean, I didn't care that he was hiding any footage of Ledger before, but now it just really seems disrespectful

It's like, Wouldn't You want to honor his memory? Wouldn't you want to honor his work?

At this point, Nolan is acting like a guy that is trying to hide an illegitimate child or something. I mean, I know he respected Heath a lot, but that's not the message i am getting here. at all.

Why not make a special feature maybe 30 minutes or something honoring Heath and his work?




Instead of hiding it? why not Honor him? wtf seriously...

Are WE sure Nolan is doing all of this...not some request from family..or legal issue of some kind?
Somebody needs to ASK Nolan this question...but he would probably dodge it...

 

[Njits]

You guys are quick to judge and "blame" Nolan for this, but I find it waaaay more likely if Ledgers relatives didn't want it in. I can't imagine Nolan saying "Nope, NOPE, no one should ever see Heath's stuff again for the foreseeable future" that just doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Khev]

Has anyone ever taken a moment to consider just what Batman was doing when he took out the final motorcycle thug after the stock exchange heist?

1. The guy is driving on a bridge with no other streets connecting at the point of elevation.

2. Batman does not go over the bridge and instead drives his batpod off to a side street side in the background behind the motorcyclist.

3. Suddenly the hostage is hooked by a cable and lifted straight up into the air. Suspended on what? Where was Batman when he shot the cable?

4. The Batpod is suddenly on the bridge but off camera, which apparently means out of the the thug's peripheral vision even though it is, once again, just a bridge and not a very wide one.

5. The Batpod rolls out in front of the the thug, now in his sight since it is directly in front of him and he hits it.

6. Batman casually walks into frame.

Are we meant to believe that Batman found a parallel overpass, jumped his bike in the air, hooked the hostage while flying directly overhead, launched said hostage into the sky (possibly to fall to his death since the sailing batpod certainly wouldn't keep him in flight for very long), and then landed the pod on the bridge before doing a funky u-turn at whatever incredible rate of speed that would have been necessary to achieve flight in the first place, only to reduce speed to a mere roll so he could unstraddle the bike and let it hit the thug?

Because that's about the best I can do piecing together the events they give us.

 

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[Russell1982]

Those are the kinds of things that I can happily leave alone and say "it's a batman movie" and just accept that logically it doesn't make much sense, but it just makes for a cool scene. It's stuff like him getting back into a city when there's been a specific plot point of saying its completely cut off from the outside world that I have a problem with, among many, many other things with the movie.

 

[CelticPredator]

He's Batman. He can do whatever the **** he wants.

 

[spindrift]

Yeah that is very minor- try following half of the action happening in IM3..it's all over the place with no explanation.....

 

[Njits]

Agreed, the moment you start thinking about that stuff there is clearly something about the movie you don't like. Stuff like that happens in all movies, they're just made in a way where you're not bothered by it.

 

[Darth Zangetsu]

It's telling how Batman himself and almost every villain have a screen test with the actors but absolutely no Ledger as the Joker.

They have freakin' Cillian Murphy and some other random guy in Kilmer's suit but nothing of Ledger. Ridiculous. They have a documentary about Bane's stupid mask and clothing, Bale trying test fittings for the TDK suit back in 2006 or 2007 but nothing of the Joker process. No make up, no prosthetics, no nothing. I know why they're doing it but it seems downright disrespectful to me.

He was the best part about this "Dark Knight" trilogy and was clearly one of the main factors in it's success but there's literally nothing about him. What does that say? If he was such a presence on set (which I'm sure he was) in such a collaboration, where is all his stuff? Poor **** didn't even get a tribute or any behind the scenes footage (when there's clearly stuff out there considering all the behind the scenes production footage they had of Bale, Caine, Freeman, etc. for TDK).

I wouldn't go that far. He was excellent in the role, especially considering all the venom that came with his casting. The cult status that has grown out of all of this is a little much though. That script was excellent. Yes, Heath was amazing, but the writing deserves credit. And i know it's popular to hate on Nolan(not saying you are or have), but the guy is a great director. He has his rough areas, like all do(like Burton, he can't stage or shoot action to save his life), but the guy is incredibly talented. Nolan and WB probably made the decision that they did not want to be seen as profitting off of his death. They chose to be cautious, and I don't fault them for that. It would be far to easy to do the opposite. They chose to allow his performance to stand as it's own tribute(the way they have since the beginning). They didn't market the movie any differently, nor did they push for the Oscar nomination. They allowed the chips to fall where they may. I respect that. Not sure others would have done that.

 

[CelticPredator]

Yeah that is very minor- try following half of the action happening in IM3..it's all over the place with no explanation.....

Uh....are you blind? Or something? Maybe you're blind. You should get glasses. The action was perfectly fine.

 

[CelticPredator]

I wouldn't go that far. He was excellent in the role, especially considering all the venom that came with his casting. The cult status that has grown out of all of this is a little much though. That script was excellent. Yes, Heath was amazing, but the writing deserves credit. And i know it's popular to hate on Nolan(not saying you are or have), but the guy is a great director. He has his rough areas, like all do(like Burton, he can't stage or shoot action to save his life), but the guy is incredibly talented. Nolan and WB probably made the decision that they did not want to be seen as profitting off of his death. They chose to be cautious, and I don't fault them for that. It would be far to easy to do the opposite. They chose to allow his performance to stand as it's own tribute(the way they have since the beginning). They didn't market the movie any differently, nor did they push for the Oscar nomination. They allowed the chips to fall where they may. I respect that. Not sure others would have done that.

The Joker's lines are alright at best. Heath's acting made it work. Period.

 

[Khev]

Agreed, the moment you start thinking about that stuff there is clearly something about the movie you don't like.

Not true at all.

 

[EVILFACE]

Has anyone ever taken a moment to consider just what Batman was doing when he took out the final motorcycle thug after the stock exchange heist?

1. The guy is driving on a bridge with no other streets connecting at the point of elevation.

2. Batman does not go over the bridge and instead drives his batpod off to a side street side in the background behind the motorcyclist.

3. Suddenly the hostage is hooked by a cable and lifted straight up into the air. Suspended on what? Where was Batman when he shot the cable?

4. The Batpod is suddenly on the bridge but off camera, which apparently means out of the the thug's peripheral vision even though it is, once again, just a bridge and not a very wide one.

5. The Batpod rolls out in front of the the thug, now in his sight since it is directly in front of him and he hits it.

6. Batman casually walks into frame.

Are we meant to believe that Batman found a parallel overpass, jumped his bike in the air, hooked the hostage while flying directly overhead, launched said hostage into the sky (possibly to fall to his death since the sailing batpod certainly wouldn't keep him in flight for very long), and then landed the pod on the bridge before doing a funky u-turn at whatever incredible rate of speed that would have been necessary to achieve flight in the first place, only to reduce speed to a mere roll so he could unstraddle the bike and let it hit the thug?

Because that's about the best I can do piecing together the events they give us.

It's a movie.

Same thing as Batman putting on a fancy knee brace and then being able to break a brick wall. Try doing that and seeing if your ankle is still intact.

 

[Njits]

Not true at all.

Not true at all.

 

[The Iron Koob]

Nolan has said that he doesn't believe in deleted scenes and blah blah. He considers the movie a finished product and anything else is irrelevant. I think it's stupid. People love to see the behind the scenes stuff but whatever I can't complain I guess. If I make a movie I'll do it however I want.

 

[CelticPredator]

It's his movie. He doesn't like that. Neither does Spielberg. People need to get over what directors do and don't want to do.

Unless they go about changing their movie and erasing all evidence of the original cut. Then they can go to hell and **** off forever and make ****ty art films in their garage about nothing. ****er.