Official Carnotaurus Maquette Picture Thread

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What was the "tail droop" issue?

The tail on the Rog started to sag over time, so much so that some collectors put things under it to prop it up. It really hasn't been an issue since, and there have been a good number of polystone pieces that have weight/balance issues; SS must have formulated a different means of production I would guess.
 
Just got my Carno today thanks to Dan.. ;)

It looks really nice...my only complaint is there seems to be a couple paint steps missing on the head...the reddish color around the eyes and the darker brown colors on the top of the head seem to have been skipped for some reason.. :?

I'm thinking the steel peg in the foot does extend the whole piece...same for the Trike vs Rex Dio..I'm trying to get confirmation from the artist who sculpts these on DA : https://taboada.deviantart.com/
 
Just got my Carno today thanks to Dan.. ;)

It looks really nice...my only complaint is there seems to be a couple paint steps missing on the head...the reddish color around the eyes and the darker brown colors on the top of the head seem to have been skipped for some reason.. :?

I wonder if that's because the final production piece rarely matches the proto 100%? In a perfect world, I suppose it would - especially for the money spent.
 
It's probably the same as everyone else's, unless you want to post some pictures, Blade? Then we could see if maybe there was a significant irregularity with the paint. Glad he arrived safely, though. :D

Was the Balrog also a polystone piece? I'm curious to know what sort of malleability this material has.
 
Just finished reading through this whole thread...whew..

I didn't expect 100% accuracy and he looks like a couple of the ones posted already so no real problem..I'm def not complaining... ;) One members pics..on page 7 I think ? shows a more greeninsh coloration to the whole body ( I think all the others look more blue-ish ) and the darker patterns on the face..maybe it's just a trick of the light..heh

That Cinemacast Raptor I have was supposed to be Polystone or somehting very similar and the tail and fingers were slightly pliable..you could push them a little and they would move..not that I tried it much really..lol
 
I'm thinking the steel peg in the foot does extend the whole piece...same for the Trike vs Rex Dio..I'm trying to get confirmation from the artist who sculpts these on DA : https://taboada.deviantart.com/

Thanks for posting the link...how about that life size carnotaurus?! I hope we're going to many more dino maquettes by Mr Taboada in the future.
 
Yes. You worked hard to murder those turkeys. Drink up. :D

Actually, it was field work in the AM and then work at the clinic in the afternoon... and now all day today. I assure you I did drink heartily. :D

Hopefully tonight I'll be on around 7:00 or so to post a more thorough evaluation of the piece.
 
Just finished reading through this whole thread...whew..
One members pics..on page 7 I think ? shows a more greeninsh coloration to the whole body ( I think all the others look more blue-ish ) and the darker patterns on the face..maybe it's just a trick of the light..heh

That would be mine and yep, I believe its a result of my quick shots under yellow candescent lighting giving that impression - not exactly studio finish :eek:. In daytime ambient light the finish is more bluish-green. Reinhardt's pics on pg. 9 convey it a lot more accurately.
 
Actually, it was field work in the AM and then work at the clinic in the afternoon... and now all day today. I assure you I did drink heartily. :D

Hopefully tonight I'll be on around 7:00 or so to post a more thorough evaluation of the piece.

Good stuff! Make it a video review please!!
 
That insteresting about the balrog tail. I would never have guess that polystone could droop. And I'm glad Sideshow figured out some way to make sure it doesn't happen again.
 
So it was polystone? Hm. That is a bit disconcerting. Hopefully the Dinosauria pieces have some good armature support.
 
Thanks for posting the link...how about that life size carnotaurus?! I hope we're going to many more dino maquettes by Mr Taboada in the future.

No problem..I just happened to stumble across his page while searching..lol There are really awesome 1:1 pieces there..I ask where they could be seen..I was told private collections and museums in South America..pretty much counts me out I guess..heh

That would be mine and yep, I believe its a result of my quick shots under yellow candescent lighting giving that impression - not exactly studio finish :eek:. In daytime ambient light the finish is more bluish-green. Reinhardt's pics on pg. 9 convey it a lot more accurately.

I thought the green color might be a result of that..it was pretty neat though... ;) Is that just a shadow on the Carnos face or does yours actually have more darker coloring on it ? It looks like the back pattern extends to the face on the box art.


I don't think I've seen the piece...just the film..but from what I remember..isn't the Balrog's tail pretty thin ? That would account for the droop I bet. None of these dinos really have thin parts on them though..really if the Carno did start to lean a small stone placed under the foot would prob stop it easily enough...my worry would be centered o nthe Dio piece. One Trike leg holding up both dinos..nothing would stop that castastrophe...but I'm sure both are secure...I can just see that steel support holding it up...but it would be nice to have confirmation it's actually present. Sideshow isn't Kenner after all..the ones who made the Cinemacast JP Raptor..which I've heard was notorius for shelf diving. I put mine back together from 10 or so pieces..it had metal pegs i nthe feet but they didn't extend up the legs, the base was hollow, and it just didn't well into it... I don't believe that's the case here.
 
I thought the green color might be a result of that..it was pretty neat though... ;) Is that just a shadow on the Carnos face or does yours actually have more darker coloring on it ? It looks like the back pattern extends to the face on the box art.

That would be a shadow. I suppose someone with modest paint skills, if it bothered them enough, could touch up the area with a darker color. However I wouldn't know what kind of paint or technique you'd need to achieve that. Depends what kind of paint and clear finish was used at the factory too because not just any paint will take to a prepainted surface. Anyone try this before with a polystone piece?

Btw, cool avatar Blade!
 
Alright, now to busniess... :rock

As to "tail-drop", being that the animal itself is elegantly counterbalanced on an organismal level, and even based on stance there appears to be just as much weight in the pelvic region extending backward as there is in the anterior portion, it's not a weighty concern of mine.

In terms of likeness to the prototype shown on the website, there are indeed differences, though none that I feel detract from the piece, and some which actually serve to enhance. The pinkish hue around the orbital sockets, a slightly deeper brown cresting the cranium, and more detailed paint apps on the teeth all round out traits on the prototype that set it apart from the production piece, and I'm sure some will argue elevate the prototype above the production model. For me, oddly enough those aren't as big of a deal, because they don't necessarily detract; meaning that the animal could just as plausibly have looked this way in life sans those differences in the paint. For example, the pinkish hue around the orbital - most avian raptors don't exhibit these characteristics until they are advanced in age; also, crocodilians and monitors have heavier scaling around the eyes so as to better protect against thrashing prey, rendering a redness around the eyes a nonexistent trait. In that regard, removing the pink shade is actually a more plausible feature for a Carnotaurus in its prime. As a counterexample, if they were to have that feature in the T.rex maquette, being that its an "elder statesman" piece, I wouldn't be upset as it would make sense based on sloping we see on occasion beneath the orbitals of geriatric raptors.

What makes it more pleasing is oddly a feature that I'm sure doesn't mean much to a great deal of individuals, but certainly makes it stand out for me...

The claws on the feet.
The prototype had a rather uniform, deep brown, muddled copper tone, whereas the production piece has a tapering pallid coloration beginning distally and proceeding backward toward the phalange where the claw darkens. It's a color scheme extremely common in birds of prey, and therein we have our first reference to an extant predator in the piece. From there, grounding the piece in a conspicuous similarity to birds of prey, we can go to yet another feature evocative of C.sastrei's resemblance to its modern relatives...

The pose.
The dynamism, the way it is striding forward with its head ducking low. Granted, the story behind the piece demonstrates the Carnotaurus intends to dispatch a small prey animal, but it could just as easily be defending its territory or a kill. There's a lot of ambiguity intentionally left in the piece so that one's mind can simply be left to wander when gazing upon it. Immediately, after setting the piece upon my shelf, my mind was thrown back to footage I once saw of a Bald eagle defending a salmon carcass against an Arctic fox - bounding across the fish, wings spread wide, and ducking its head in a shrill cry of defiance. That is exactly what I get from this piece, and it's a great achievement in terms of realism. SS has a great accomplishment in that regard, making a plausible, immensely imposing carnivore.

The sheer, mind-blowing detail is positively staggering. Every bump, every protuberance, every fold in the skin, every broken scale... it's dumbfounding. Positively staggering when you sit and truly examine the piece. Some features of this maquette we have simply not been able to examine on close scrutiny with the online imagery. The maw extending to the back of the throat, glistening and beckoning to victims in a most ghoulish manner, seeming almost anaemic in the right lighting, though most certainly recalling the throats of crocodilians or monitors. Reference to extant carnivores #2. You really get a good feeling of the amalgamation for reference that went into this singular piece. The amount of thought and effort that coalesced is really quite impressive. The dorsal spines buckling and rolling into one another at the base of the neck as the cervical vertebrae compress... even though one of the less noticeable spines on my piece toward the tail was broken, I feel every single iota of detail will always draw my eye, and my awe, elsewhere.

Knowing what we know about Carnotaurus, you can imagine this Carnotaurus, skulking at the edges of a dried creek bed, eyeing its prey carefully from a distance, gauging its strengths and weaknesses. Suddenly and rapidly, it bounds forth from the foliage, quickly clearing the distance between its prey and itself. The dried earth crumbling with ease as it races forth, tossing dust into the air, much of which quickly mingles with the blood of the thrashing animal, materializing and plummeting unceremoniously back to the ground as wet, crimson mud. Though perhaps a forelimb of the unfortunate meal was tossed free in the savage melee, the Carnotaurus bows its mandible outward laterally so as to engulf the entire creature. The sutures in its lower jaw were designed with a dual purpose - to absorb the impacts from struggling prey, but also to allow for a meal to be devoured whole. Bloated and sated, the Carnotaurus can now slink back into the undergrowth and rest with a full belly. Its meal can digest as it rests in the fading sunlight, bathing the landscape perhaps in a vermillion glow which augments the carnage of the massacre having just unfolded moments ago.



Well, for now I suppose those are my collective thoughts. I began to record a video review, but I couldn't get the video camera to adequately focus on the details I thought essential. That and I find I end up sounding too much like David Attenborough for my taste. :lol If this is the way they start off the maquette line, I have ludicrously high hopes for what lies ahead. That being said, my only other major gripe was the packaging. It seemed, with two sections of tape wrapped around the Styrofoam rather than across the seam, somewhat haphazard. I was immediately concerned that the maquette would be revealed damaged moments later. My fears were allayed, but still it was disconcerting.
 
Im very happy that he met your approval my friend...Too bad about no video review tho, we were all looking forward to it...but another great detailed review as always buddy :rock
 
That would be a shadow. I suppose someone with modest paint skills, if it bothered them enough, could touch up the area with a darker color. However I wouldn't know what kind of paint or technique you'd need to achieve that. Depends what kind of paint and clear finish was used at the factory too because not just any paint will take to a prepainted surface. Anyone try this before with a polystone piece?

Btw, cool avatar Blade!

It might just be shadow in the proto pics as well then.. ;)

My avatar is pic of the model Tom Dickens released of his Allosaur from Dinosaur Valley Girls by Don Glut...my quote at the bottom is also from the film's song. It's a bit of a mature film, but the Allo has definite attitude I like. ;D

I could try to fix it myself..it's just the matter of a dark wash I think..not a huge deal...that being said it's not really bothering me..I just felt the proto paint with the red around the eyes and bit of darker color set the eyes of more..from a distance ( maybe 2 feet ) they kind of fade into the face. Not like the Rex on the vs Dio..his eyes glow and stand out a lot.

I just noticed the prey's tracks on the base as well...right in front of the log...going off to the left of the Carno..so he is def sweeping to the side to really chomp whatever it is. I wouldn't mind a companion piece that has a smaller dino you could place in front of it looking back in terror.
 
Nice observation about the prey tracks. I didn't notice those.

I have to say, I don't think I've ever admired a collectible as much as I have admired this one. I think Dinosauria may become the flagship line of my collection.
 
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