Official "Ridley Scott's Prometheus" Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[uscmhicks]

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I think Scott will stand his ground or not make the movie. If he has made passing comments in the past about his dislike of the avp franchise I highly doubt he would make a movie in the way it seems fox want it.

 

[Macularius]

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I actually agree. Alien 3 was pretty good. Resurrection was the iffy one of the bunch. The others, perfect. They all had different feels, different production designs, and different color palettes . It's like... green, blue, and orange. Then Resurrection is back to green. *scoffs*

...I have such a weird way of judging movies.

I've noticed the differing color palettes of movies too. Like the terminator series - the first two are blue, the third orange, the fourth white....

 

[Nacho]

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I'm all the way behind Scott.
Fox can go screw themselves.

This movie should be made 100% the way Scott intends it, or nothing.
What the hell do Fox know about making movies..

 

[uscmhicks]

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Exactly , what the hell do fox know about ALIEN at all.
I can't belive they are doing this to the man who made the original film.

 

[Nacho]

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Exactly , what the hell do fox know about ALIEN at all.
I can't belive they are doing this to the man who made the original film.

The F$@#ING NERVE!!!

 

[Rotfish]

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I actually completely understand what you mean there but have never really noticed that. How awesome.

I've noticed the differing color palettes of movies too. Like the terminator series - the first two are blue, the third orange, the fourth white....

Coolio! Glad to know I wasn't the only one. I kind of use it to judge the uniqueness or overall look of a movie, so... that being said, the original Alien trilogy was pretty varied. Only with Resurrection did we see things that weren't quite as new.

 

[CelticPredator]

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I thought they changed? Did Rothman come back or something?

This has to be made by Scott, and Rated R. If it's not....dont ever make it.

 

[Dinosoar Daz]

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According to Box Office Mojo there have only been three R rated movies to exceed $250 million in the US, so I imagine Fox don’t see any financial return in it, especially as movies today are judged a success or failure by their opening weekend.
If they need to trim the budget, they should forget about shooting it in 3D.

 

[FACEBOX]

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Cameron should get Scott's back in this.
Show his support for the idea, and maybe even co-direct.
I'm sure FOX will gladly fork over the cash then.
If not, he can fund it himself and take a big %.

All in all, I rather no movie instead of another pile of watery butt snot.

 

[DinoLast]

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According to Box Office Mojo there have only been three R rated movies to exceed $250 million in the US, so I imagine Fox don’t see any financial return in it, especially as movies today are judged a success or failure by their opening weekend.
If they need to trim the budget, they should forget about shooting it in 3D.

I sometimes wonder if the States would be better off with a rating system like the UK's. Most R rated movies are 15 certificates over here, and they don't even have to be cut to get that rating.

 

[Rotfish]

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According to Box Office Mojo there have only been three R rated movies to exceed $250 million in the US, so I imagine Fox don’t see any financial return in it, especially as movies today are judged a success or failure by their opening weekend.
If they need to trim the budget, they should forget about shooting it in 3D.

 

[Mongoleone]

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Comment wasn't really relevant anymore. So... UNDO.

 

[Mongoleone]

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New comment:

I don't see why everybody gets so butt-hurt about this stuff. It's not like they’re pulling a Lucas and busting down your door, burning your original copy and handing you a watered down retardo replacement version with "wicked cool" "enhanced" special effects. If the movie sucks don't watch it, or watch it and laugh or complain about how bad it is. You can still watch the Original whenever you want, it's not going to vaporize with the continued release of rubbish franchise installments.

Hugs for everyone!!!

 

[SimFeliz]

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New comment:

I don't see why everybody gets so butt-hurt about this stuff. If the movie sucks don't watch it, or watch it and laugh or complain about how bad it is. You can still watch the Original whenever you want, it's not going to vaporize with the continued release of rubbish franchise installments.

That's where the issue lies. I think most people have warmed to the idea of a Prequel, but a proper prequel not some half arse, watered down, Fox PG cut.

 

[prefused]

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That's where the issue lies. I think most people have warmed to the idea of a Prequel, but a proper prequel not some half arse, watered down, Fox PG cut.

exactly. and Scott clearly knows the difference.


off topic: what is your awesome Candyman avatar from? is it from a comic, or just an artist?

 

[CelticPredator]

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New comment:

I don't see why everybody gets so butt-hurt about this stuff. It's not like they’re pulling a Lucas and busting down your door, burning your original copy and handing you a watered down retardo replacement version with "wicked cool" "enhanced" special effects. If the movie sucks don't watch it, or watch it and laugh or complain about how bad it is. You can still watch the Original whenever you want, it's not going to vaporize with the continued release of rubbish franchise installments.

Hugs for everyone!!!

____ ____ ____ NO NOT ____ING EVER. This series is incredibly important to me. The Aliens and the Predators hold a special place in my heart. They are without a doubt my favorite things of all time. I will not just laugh at them being destroyed. ____ that ____.

 

[jrice73]

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This once again falls at Tom Rothman's feet. He's the guy running the show at Fox. That's why outside of Avatar, genre films from Fox have been critical and commercial failures for the last six or seven years. Rothman likes to tinker with scripts, productions, and directors thinking he knows what's best for his audiences. The guy is a complete idiot who sees dollar signs behind absolute ____ he believes is gold, i.e., The Fantastic Four films, AVP, X3 and Wolverine and probably X-Men: First Class. Any real Alien fan knows that the AVP films killed this franchise which was already on life support after Alien 3 and 4. With Ridley Scott stepping back into the ring and trying to reclaim and resuscitate the franchise, you'd think this would be a win-win situation for everybody. Yeah, for everybody but Tom Rothman. Rothman wants control. He couldn't get control over Avatar because of Cameron (since after Titanic you don't push around James Cameron) so he's going to go after Scott and try to get the Englishman to cave. Ridley won't cave. He'll leave the project forever and never make another Alien film ever again if Rothman and his studio push him too far. Let's face it, after the original Star Wars, Fox saw how much money George Lucas made out of merchandising especially with action figures (something we all know about here). Every big genre property since that Fox has been involved with has had some kind of merchandising tie-in, even with the R-rated Alien franchise. However, now a days, Wal-Mart (who in the late eighties, early nineties carried the Kenner Alien series) and other big box stores like Target, K-Mart, etc. will not carry any toys linked to R-rated films. Toys R Us seems to be the exception for the moment with their stores seeing figures from Watchmen and R-rated action and horror films. But Wallyworld won't even though they sell R-rated films in their electronics section. Case in point, The Dark Knight. TDK could have easily been an R but Warners wanted a PG-13 so Mattel could sell TDK toys to everybody without any resistance. As long as you secure a PG-13 rating, you get distribution in Wal-Mart for toys based on your film. That's what Tom Rothman is thinking here. Plus, with a PG-13 rating you get the perks of more kids under the age of 17 seeing the film without a parent which means more box office and Happy Meals with little Alien figures at your local McDonalds. And that's why at the end of the day, this project is doomed.

 

[Rotfish]

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A friend of mine asked me yesterday what would happen if the smart people were to die out, leaving only the stupid to run things. I told him "They already are." Let's face it, they've been doing it for years. Every now and then you hear an amazing story about how X movie got made, against all odds and predicted failure. But those are pretty damn rare. Seriously, FOX is all about the cash -- to the point where it's not about the films anymore. Oh, I'm not surprised either.

And jrice73, you're exactly right when you say the AVP movies killed the franchise. Granted, I was one of the few who actually enjoyed the first one (not nearly as brilliant as the originals, just fun and well-done like Resurrection), but thought AVP-R was pure crap. Well, guess what? No one knows about the first Alien and Predator films. Maybe if you're lucky, today's generation will have heard of the original Predator, but Alien? Nope. The only films with these characters that they've been exposed to are the AVP ones, and after seeing just those, they write off the entire series as B/C-movie drivel. A new Alien or Predator film comes out every two to three years now! And they're getting progressively worse (though I thought Predators was a step up). FOX is taking a once-great sci-fi franchise and turning it into one of those slasher series where there are dozens of sequels that no one respects anymore.

FOX is screwing themselves over in a way, and after doing it so many times, they still don't know it. I honestly hope Ridley gives them an ultimatum. But then again, we all know some other moron will grab the script and do exactly what he's told by big daddy. And respect for Alien will dwindle even more than it already has. Seriously, Cameron needs to have Scott's back on this. These are the guys who directed the first and best two and they should have the say in how the movie gets made.

 

[bigpig]

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Seriously, Cameron needs to have Scott's back on this. These are the guys who directed the first and best two and they should have the say in how the movie gets made.

Could you imagine that if Scot wins and makes the horror/suspense prequels then Cameron sticks to his word and does the action/survival sequel to the prequels!1

(note that he did say that donks ago)

 

[i_am_cookie_monster]

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As much as I love Alien, and indeed Ridley Scott, I really hope the prequels don't get made