Official "Ridley Scott's Prometheus" Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[CelticPredator]

Not really. Most people who didn't like it are mad becauseit wasn't a prequel or direct link.
In fact most agree it wasn't a prequel (on prometheus forums) including Ridley Scott

"The Dib" is a minority

I SAY

The Dib is just a kid. There are lots of kids. Even kids with big heads. So I think he's fine.

Most people's problems with the film are the shoddy script, the stupid characters, the needless vagueness about the entire film, and scenes which come out of no where.

That all stems from people who wanted something more like Alien. Most people realized what it was as soon as the Space Jockey showed up. The filmmakers wanted to lure Alien fans with that trailer which is 100% just like the Alien teaser, while not (pardon the pun) alienating people who aren't fans.

Simple as dat.

 

[CelticPredator]

Doesn't matter if it's in the movie. The promotionals/virals are canon
also Ridley was linking Blade Runner with Alien when it was originally made. So it can't be considered recon!

No it's not. It's not canon until it's in the movie. Period.

 

[CarrotBun]

Nah most complainers originally I heard say Ridley Scott lied about it being a prequel and had "no" connections besides the end
obviously they haven't watched Alien in a long time as there are many many connections from the very beginning. Because it takes place in the universe
he said it wasn't a prequel since December
so GOSH the whiners don't pay attention

They say Ridley "Shoe Horned" and Alien at the end, but otherwise no connections
pretty dumb as there are many many connections

 

[CarrotBun]

No it's not. It's not canon until it's in the movie. Period.

You think Weyland Ted Talk is not canon?

Probably only 0.0000000000000001 fans think that

 

[CelticPredator]

Goodness.....me... I'll come back to this.

 

[CarrotBun]

We shall just

Agree to Agree

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

We know what a Space Jockey is. We know who Weyland is. We know the origins of Weyland's search for the Alien. We know something new about the Alien as a species. So yeah. It's a prequel.

Not a direct tie in. But it does have it's roots.

None of those things make it a prequel though. Did we learn more about the alien creature and the space jockey race? Yes. Did we learn anything about the specific events in Alien? No.

It does have "roots", as it should because it's based in the same universe..but it isn't a prequel to Alien. It's it's own movie about Peter Weyland and Shaw and David on a different planet having a different encounter with different creatures until a sequel possibly changes that.

 

[crows]

Charlize Theron was waaaay hotter than Noomi Ropache, way hotter. Charlize Theron is one of the hottest actresses working right now.

 

[CarrotBun]

NOOMI ___POWER

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Charlize Theron was waaaay hotter than Noomi Ropache, way hotter. Charlize Theron is one of the hottest actresses working right now.

Charlize Theron looks like any other "hot" blonde chick. She's not ugly, but her facial structure is more on the boring and generic side. On the other hand Noomi Rapace has an incredibly unique and cute face.

So Noomi wins for being original.

 

[morphosis]

Great excerpt from a Lindelof Interview from last year. Basically sums it up.

Its amazing how many people had a hard time with this film. Its like they couldn't grasp it and just are not open to some things being a mystery. Its like movie goers now need everything spelled out.

To me how I felt all along is Shaw was our eyes, and we only know what Shaw knows. And now she's off on to further her quest and hopefully we will see her again.

And yes the movie definitely was connected to the Alien movies. Its just a different part of the story. Its not Ripley story here, its Shaws/Weylands for the most part.

"I don't want to talk too specifically about what the black goop does. Obviously the characters in the movie are trying to theorize based on what is happening to them. "This thing is a weapon, it's really bad for us." When it interacts with living species, bad things result. So you see little worms and when the black goop gets on the little worms we see what happens to them. And when Fifield gets it all over his face mask, we see what happens to him. When Holloway just has a drop of it in a glass of champagne, we see what happens to him.

We wanted to be purposefully vague, [but steer] the audience towards some conclusions as to what that stuff was supposed to do: Is it supposed to kill you? Is it supposed to transform you—which seems like the most obvious choice—and to what end? Like, why in God's name would the engineers want to create abominations out of mankind? Some of these questions we wanted to answer directly and some of these questions we didn't want to answer directly, which sets you up for a certain level of frustration and disappointment that I am well familiar with, but I'll take it any day of the week because I also feel like it forces you to fire your own imagination.

We clearly have answers for those questions ourselves that we did not present in the movie purposefully, not just because we're saving them for potential sequels, but because the power of the original Alien—or even Blade Runner—is that to a certain degree, we're giving you all the numbers in the equation but we're not adding them up for you. And that's intentional."

ok done.

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[crows]

NOOMI ___POWER

Charlize Theron looks like any other "hot" blonde chick. She's not ugly, but her facial structure is more on the boring and generic side. On the other hand Noomi Rapace has an incredibly unique and cute face.

So Noomi wins for being original.

I was only messing with Star Carrot Bunpuffs

I think Noomi is really beautiful.

 

[Project_A]

I was only messing with Star Carrot Bunpuffs

 

[CarrotBun]

Great excerpt from a Lindelof Interview from last year. Basically sums it up.

Its amazing how many people had a hard time with this film. Its like they couldn't grasp it and just are not open to some things being a mystery. Its like movie goers now need everything spelled out.

To me how I felt all along is Shaw was our eyes, and we only know what Shaw knows. And now she's off on to further her quest and hopefully we will see her again.

And yes the movie definitely was connected to the Alien movies. Its just a different part of the story. Its not Ripley story here, its Shaws/Weylands for the most part.

"I don't want to talk too specifically about what the black goop does. Obviously the characters in the movie are trying to theorize based on what is happening to them. "This thing is a weapon, it's really bad for us." When it interacts with living species, bad things result. So you see little worms and when the black goop gets on the little worms we see what happens to them. And when Fifield gets it all over his face mask, we see what happens to him. When Holloway just has a drop of it in a glass of champagne, we see what happens to him.

We wanted to be purposefully vague, [but steer] the audience towards some conclusions as to what that stuff was supposed to do: Is it supposed to kill you? Is it supposed to transform you—which seems like the most obvious choice—and to what end? Like, why in God's name would the engineers want to create abominations out of mankind? Some of these questions we wanted to answer directly and some of these questions we didn't want to answer directly, which sets you up for a certain level of frustration and disappointment that I am well familiar with, but I'll take it any day of the week because I also feel like it forces you to fire your own imagination.

We clearly have answers for those questions ourselves that we did not present in the movie purposefully, not just because we're saving them for potential sequels, but because the power of the original Alien—or even Blade Runner—is that to a certain degree, we're giving you all the numbers in the equation but we're not adding them up for you. And that's intentional."

ok done.

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Great quote

 

[SixMillionDollarMan Guy]

I was only messing with Star Carrot Bunpuffs

....

 

[Gully Foyle]

You do know that Scott told Lindolff what to write, right?

Maybe by your 30 thousandth post you'll write something halfway correct?

Goals . . . try and reach 'em.

I feel sorry Lindeloff...he got constantly spammed with death threats on his twitter

Yes, yes . . . death threats on twitter . . .

that's . . . a real . . . serious case of . . .

You both get 3/10.

 

[Viking Spawn]

I had to wait for the VHS to be released bro, I need to update my home cinema for real.

Charlize Theron was waaaay hotter than Noomi Ropache, way hotter. Charlize Theron is one of the hottest actresses working right now.

I think Noomi is hot!

 

[CarrotBun]

@Gully Foyle
You get a 0/10.
He was correct.

Try saying "First World problems" to the people slitting their wrists bawwwing, giving him death threats.

Looks like you were one of them.

Pleeeeeeaaaaase cry some more

 

[Gates70]

So I guess people aren't aware that there's 2 other movies to go before it ties into Alien ?

 

[Devil_666]

I think it's obvious a lot of people in this thread have absolutely no idea what a prequel is. It doesn't have to tie directly into the movie it precedes. It just has to take place BEFORE the events in the movie it precedes.

X-Men Origins: Wolverine is a prequel, but it doesn't end where the first X-Men films starts.

A lot of prequels don't.

Because that's not some standard that has to be adhered to in order for a movie (or any work for that matter) to qualify as a prequel.

Anyone who doesn't think Prometheus is a prequel to Alien doesn't understand the meaning of the word.