Official "Ridley Scott's Prometheus" Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[Frank]

On behalf of Lesbians everywhere
You implying we look bitter , why I oughta

Charlize is gorgeous, Prometheus prequel..sequel..whatever it is, is crap. There I said it (imo)
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Okay, how about angry female on a mission to castrate the world?

 

[CarrotBun]

Either it's a generation gap or it's head trauma. Either way, one of us is going to need an aspirin!

Nope. I don't excuse something of its faults simply due to "nostalgia"
try being objective

Prometheus prequel..sequel..whatever it is, is crap. There I said it (imo)

Critics and Audiences disagree
you are the minority

 

[Adoptedscot]

Okay, how about angry female on a mission to castrate the world?

"That'll do Donkey, that'll do..."
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Critics and Audiences disagree
you are the minority

I really don't care what critics or 'audiences' think, I'm the audience in my house and as for being in a minority, that's nothing new for me
Each to their own as far as I'm concerned. I might not like it, others do, good on all of us for having our own personal opinions
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[Frank]

Nope. I don't excuse something of its faults simply due to "nostalgia"
try being objective

Okay, objectively... realistically... there's little we can say that isn't going to be subjective. If only that movie came close to the character development or depth or tension or gritty sci-fi horror or payoff in Alien or Aliens. There are some cool landscapes and set designs but that doesn't carry the film.

I'll give Scott some time to shake off the cobwebs, but he's got to get ruthless and to the point. It's clear he wasn't trying to out-horror Alien(s) but he hasn't found a way to center his narrative effectively. Noomi's alright but she wasn't a great lead and David drains all life from the film in being granted god-like abilities. If we're supposed to be in awe of the Engineers, you couldn't tell by glow of this metrosexual Laurence of Arabia knowitall knockoff. He might make a better character in a Bladerunner prequel, but all he does in Prometheus is steal everyone's thunder including the big albino.

And no, combining Bladerunner and Alien universes isn't a great idea. That is something best left to fanfiction and conjecture.

 

[Khev]

I know Cameron desmystified the "aliens" but I think Prometheus actually gives Aliens a wickedly morbid new perspective.

I mentioned it way back but Prometheus gives Burke's "busy little creatures" comment a whole new meaning. What we take from Prometheus and Aliens together is that a byproduct of the Engineer biological "superweapons" is that they're so advanced that the weapons themselves will actually set up entire societies if set free and left to their own devices.

We don't know why the Engineers made humans, whether we're supposed to be rabbits to test hair products on or weapon carriers or what have you but Burke observed that the xenomorphs on LV-426 were busy in setting up their own little hive structure ecosystem while completely oblivious to the fact that humans had done the exact same thing.

Linking us to the terrifying aliens that go bump in the night in such a manner is actually quite ingenious and disturbing. For whatever reason we had gone amuck and the Engineers decided that it was necessary to nuke us from orbit. Yikes.

 

[CarrotBun]

Okay, objectively... realistically... there's little we can say that isn't going to be subjective. If only that movie came close to the character development or depth or tension or gritty sci-fi horror or payoff in Alien or Aliens. There are some cool landscapes and set designs but that doesn't carry the film.

You must be joking.
Prometheus has more character development then the entire Alien franchise put together.
Ripley is a flat one dimensional character until Aliens where she becomes two dimensional with the motherly aspect added.

In fact when Alien came out it was ridiculed for its flat cardboard characters. Something Ridley admits and tried to correct in Blade Runner.

And don't try to tell me that the dumb marines with about a single line each had character development. Fifield had more character development than any character in Aliens combined. LOL

 

[skooternb]

I know Cameron desmystified the "aliens" but I think Prometheus actually gives Aliens a wickedly morbid new perspective.

I mentioned it way back but Prometheus gives Burke's "busy little creatures" comment a whole new meaning. What we take from Prometheus and Aliens together is that a byproduct of the Engineer biological "superweapons" is that they're so advanced that the weapons themselves will actually set up entire societies if set free and left to their own devices.

We don't know why the Engineers made humans, whether we're supposed to be rabbits to test hair products on or weapon carriers or what have you but Burke observed that the xenomorphs on LV-426 were busy in setting up their own little hive structure ecosystem while completely oblivious to the fact that humans had done the exact same thing.

Linking us to the terrifying aliens that go bump in the night in such a manner is actually quite ingenious and disturbing. For whatever reason we had gone amuck and the Engineers decided that it was necessary to nuke us from orbit. Yikes.

This is great! Really thoughtful and totally puts the whole picture/Alien universe in perspective. Bravo.

 

[Frank]

"That'll do Donkey, that'll do..."
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You must be joking.
Prometheus has more character development then the entire Alien franchise put together.
Ripley is a flat one dimensional character until Aliens where she becomes two dimensional with the motherly aspect added.

In fact when Alien came out it was ridiculed for its flat cardboard characters. Something Ridley admits and tried to correct in Blade Runner.

And don't try to tell me that the dumb marines with about a single line each had character development. Fifield had more character development than any character in Aliens combined. LOL

You are aware that all those actors actually went through a "boot camp" together just to help develop a believable rapport and authenticity in the film. One of them was an actual veteran. Acting is more than lines, but they had plenty of those too.

Everyone has their little pocket of fandom out there and Prometheus is no different, but I highly doubt we'll ever see one as hardcore for the Colonial Marines (RIP Chris Chulamanis).

I'll take that aspirin now.

Kids...

 

[Khev]

This is great! Really thoughtful and totally puts the whole picture/Alien universe in perspective. Bravo.

Thanks!

 

[skooternb]

I highly doubt we'll ever see one as hardcore for the Colonial Marines (RIP Chris Chulamanis).

I'll take that aspirin now.

Kids...

 

[CarrotBun]

You are aware that all those actors actually went through a "boot camp" together just to help develop a believable rapport and authenticity in the film. One of them was an actual veteran. Acting is more than lines, but they had plenty of those too.

Your point?

Aliens was a comedy show of silly unrealistic marines with about a line of "comedy" dialogue a piece before dying.

They are all flat characters. It's a fun film, but you're being intellectually dishonest if you think they were nothing more then redshirts.
So post all of the comedy images you like. It doesn't change the facts.

 

[Frank]

Your point?

Aliens was a comedy show of silly unrealistic marines with about a line of "comedy" dialogue a piece before dying.

They are all flat characters. It's a fun film, but you're being intellectually dishonest if you think they were nothing more then redshirts.
So post all of the comedy images you like. It doesn't change the facts.

My point is I need two aspirin now.

 

[Ramatuelle]

Charlize is gorgeous, Prometheus prequel..sequel..whatever it is, is crap. There I said it (imo)
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Be aware that the mere utterance/typing of those words will unleash a firestorm of.... well, crap. Saying that Prometheus is "crap" is not an allowed opinion. [Cue the menstruation insults in 3....2....1....] Being female and having an opinion? It'll get you in trouble in these parts.

As far as Carrot there implying that Prometheus will end up with a bigger fan-base than Aliens... well...... this says it best:

In your dreams, pal.

I dont even regard it as Alien-universe canon. Its just very expensive, well-lit ....er, crap.

 

[CarrotBun]

My point is I need two aspirin now.

From reading your own posts?

As far as Carrot there implying that Prometheus will end up with a bigger fan-base than Aliens... well......

NEVER did I once say anything like this
Aliens will always have a bigger fanbase then Prometheus and Alien. It's a more straightforward story that a wider array of the masses will like.

I enjoy it as well, but not on the same level as Ridley's.
same reason Avatar made so much money. I recognize that it's a great well made film, but I didn't get anywhere close to as interested in it as with Prometheus.

It's fine if you prefer Cameron takes like Aliens/Avatar, it's just to me that I prefer more mystery science fictions. To each his own.

I dont even regard it as Alien-universe canon. Its just very expensive, well-lit ....er, crap.

That's the mirror talking. Only Blade Runner - Prometheus - Alien are canon.
Sorry, Colonial Marines Cameron boy

 

[Frank]

From reading your own posts?

NEVER did I once say anything like this
Aliens will always have a bigger fanbase then Prometheus and Alien. It's a more straightforward story that a wider array of the masses will like.

I enjoy it as well, but not on the same level as Ridley's.
same reason Avatar made so much money. I recognize that it's a great well made film, but I didn't get anywhere close to as interested in it as with Prometheus.

If the actors in Prometheus prepared as much as the actors in aliens for their respective roles, they would have hung out with some actual scientists. Not a single one of them came off as professionals at anything. They were less than the sum of their parts.

 

[Adoptedscot]

Awesome
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So post all of the comedy images you like. It doesn't change the facts.

You do realise that that 'comedy image' was not directed at you, right?.
That's a fact
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Be aware that the mere utterance/typing of those words will unleash a firestorm of.... well, crap. Saying that Prometheus is "crap" is not an allowed opinion. [Cue the menstruation insults in 3....2....1....] Being female and having an opinion? It'll get you in trouble in these parts.

As far as Carrot there implying that Prometheus will end up with a bigger fan-base than Aliens... well...... this says it best

In your dreams, pal.

I dont even regard it as Alien-universe canon. Its just very expensive, well-lit ....er, crap.

Nah, they don't scare me .
I am female and I have an opinion - they can deal with it, or not, I don't care

I've been round these parts for a long time and no-ones gonna tell me I'm wrong, just for my opinion not being the same as theirs. ...and anyone starts those insults (or any insults for that matter) will get a nice infraction from me for their effort

That's what I love about films/ Art/ Collecting...everything, it's all subjective and a personal preference, just because someones taste may differ from another persons, don't make it wrong or any less valid.
Someone may say that my opinion is a minority well all I can say is don't judge me like that and who cares anyway . I like what I likes, just like they do.

I'm glad that people are so enthusiastic about the film, that they enjoyed it so much, all I can say is I did not have the same experience.
I love the Alien franchise but Prometheus for me was not very entertaining but I really wanted it to be, I was looking forward to seeing it. I've only seen it the once though, so I may view it again when it comes on TV to see if I like it anymore the second time round.
As I say each to their own

So with that, I'm done in this thread until I see it again (maybe) but for the moment my opinion stands as it was that I didn't like it.
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[BadMoon]

Shell you are wrong.

 

[CarrotBun]

If the actors in Prometheus prepared as much as the actors in aliens for their respective roles, they would have hung out with some actual scientists. Not a single one of them came off as professionals at anything. They were less than the sum of their parts.

The Marines in Aliens didn't come off as professionals any way you slice it. They were goofy comedy shows and the most unprofessional marines I've ever seen. Besides the fact that Ridley actually did have scientests on board.

You know nothing of what you speak.

 

[Rorywan]

I know Cameron desmystified the "aliens" but I think Prometheus actually gives Aliens a wickedly morbid new perspective.

I mentioned it way back but Prometheus gives Burke's "busy little creatures" comment a whole new meaning. What we take from Prometheus and Aliens together is that a byproduct of the Engineer biological "superweapons" is that they're so advanced that the weapons themselves will actually set up entire societies if set free and left to their own devices.

We don't know why the Engineers made humans, whether we're supposed to be rabbits to test hair products on or weapon carriers or what have you but Burke observed that the xenomorphs on LV-426 were busy in setting up their own little hive structure ecosystem while completely oblivious to the fact that humans had done the exact same thing.

Linking us to the terrifying aliens that go bump in the night in such a manner is actually quite ingenious and disturbing. For whatever reason we had gone amuck and the Engineers decided that it was necessary to nuke us from orbit. Yikes.

I wish you had written the script for Prometheus.

 

[Adoptedscot]

Shell you are wrong.

NEVER!!



Hiya Moonie
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