Official "Ridley Scott's Prometheus" Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

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Re: Official Alien Prequel/Prometheus Discussion Thread

Jesus that's sad.
I agree..it was a good movie, but really only because of the designs/visual effects..

waaaayyyy overrated...



No, I think it's R.
It's been stated several times that Prometheus will be PG13..unless I'm missing somthing.

I thought Ridley wanted a 300 million budget with an R rating, but Fox wouldn't let it happen unless it was PG13, and gave it a 100 million budget..idunno
 
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IIRC the target rating was originally pg-13 but Scott has persuaded Fox to let him deliver an R film. Of course, rumors are rumors. It's all up to the MPAA.

Jockey sculpt is interesting because I see a bit of Facehugger in the shape of the face.

I expect we will at least see a facehugger and a chestburster in this film. I would hope they explain why the seated jockey had a chesthole in Alien.

The cylinder things in the early shots could be eggs that just haven't been activated
 
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Yes, but that's not the point.

Predators was cheap, so it being R wasn't a big loss money wise. I think it was only 60 million. Fox didn't really care all that much about it.

This is like 150-200 million dollar movie. They don't want to hinder the movie's money making by making it R. Most R-Rated movies are risks to the studios, because the primary target age of most filmgoers are 13-25. But most come from the 13-16 age group.


R-Rated movies can be incredibly successful, but more often then not, they're not that expensive to make.
 
Re: Official Alien Prequel/Prometheus Discussion Thread

I agree..it was a good movie, but really only because of the designs/visual effects..

waaaayyyy overrated...

It's been stated several times that Prometheus will be PG13..unless I'm missing somthing.

I thought Ridley wanted a 300 million budget with an R rating, but Fox wouldn't let it happen unless it was PG13, and gave it a 100 million budget..idunno

God, I hope it's R.
 
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I honestly wouldn't hold your breath.

But honestly, If it wasn't Ridley Scott doing this film, I would be against the NOTION of it being PG-13.

But Scott's not an idiot. He's filming R-Rated scenes, and PG-13 scenes. So if we don't get an R-Rated theatrical run, we'll get a nice unrated Blu Ray.
 
Re: Official Alien Prequel/Prometheus Discussion Thread

Don't you have anything in between like MA15+? Seems like a big gap between PG13 and R rated(which I gather is 18+ as it is here).
 
Re: Official Alien Prequel/Prometheus Discussion Thread

I honestly wouldn't hold your breath.

But honestly, If it wasn't Ridley Scott doing this film, I would be against the NOTION of it being PG-13.

But Scott's not an idiot. He's filming R-Rated scenes, and PG-13 scenes. So if we don't get an R-Rated theatrical run, we'll get a nice unrated Blu Ray.

The idea of families taking their 13 year old children to a Ridley Scott Sci-Fi movie shows how much the film industry has changed.
 
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I was watching a movie a few nights ago that was marked as a 15 and it was full of graphic throat slitting, eye stabbing and various other gruesome stuff.

Im not expecting anything half was violent so a 13 age doesnt bother me at all.
 
Re: Official Alien Prequel/Prometheus Discussion Thread

I honestly wouldn't hold your breath.

But honestly, If it wasn't Ridley Scott doing this film, I would be against the NOTION of it being PG-13.

But Scott's not an idiot. He's filming R-Rated scenes, and PG-13 scenes. So if we don't get an R-Rated theatrical run, we'll get a nice unrated Blu Ray.

I know Scott's not an idiot.

Here's the thing thou, how different would Alien have been if it was PG-13?

If that is the case then I'll be skipping the theatrical run. I'm not going to double dip.
 
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The movie is being shot R but the deal is for Scott to deliver a PG13.
H'es saying he will show both cuts and FOX will decide what to go with in the theatrical release but let's not fool ourselves the PG13 is what we are going to get.
Then the R cut on Bluray.

I don't have a problem with a PG13 cut because safe for the famous chestbuster Alien movies are not over gory or graphic.
Alien movies are mostly very intense and suggestive.

What would be a problem for me is that the story, the concepts get dumbed down for lenght concerns.
Like Scott's KINGDOM OF HEAVEN, wich is ok in it's theatrical cut but great in its full cut.

As for this Space Jockey/Engineer's helmet, well it is what it is!
A pilot/spaceman helmet.
The giant bald dude seen in the trailer near the chair IS a space Jockey/ Engineer without its helmet on.
Their technology is bio mechanical, it's looks like it's living and breathing.
When not used or no more on the Engineer body it "dies" hence why the Space Jockey/Engineer from ALIEN is fosilized.
Its "host" being dead.
The Space jockey/Engineers design has been kown since ALIEN.
The illustrations by Giger show bald humanoids with elongated skulls.
Wearing biomechanical armors.
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The movie is being shot R but the deal is for Scott to deliver a PG13.
H'es saying he will show both cuts and FOX will decide what to go with in the theatrical release but let's not fool ourselves the PG13 is what we are going to get.
Then the R cut on Bluray.

I don't have a problem with a PG13 cut because safe for the famous chestbuster Alien movies are not over gory or graphic.
Alien movies are mostly very intense and suggestive.

:lecture

Aside from language which can be toned down and not missed. See TDK - I don't think the gore is needed either. At this point we have been so dulled to gore we have crap (IMO) like Hostel and Human Centipede to "shock us" I just don't see the need for it personally.

We get that the aliens can kill. The scene when Dallas is in the shaft when he turned around and saw the alien then it cut to black - great cinema. Even though in the extended version we know he didn't die at that point. I still didn't need to see brain matter splatter on the screen to assume it didn't go down well for him.

PG 13 or not they can't rate nor censor tension when done by a master...
 
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:lecture

Aside from language which can be toned down and not missed. See TDK - I don't think the gore is needed either. At this point we have been so dulled to gore we have crap (IMO) like Hostel and Human Centipede to "shock us" I just don't see the need for it personally.

We get that the aliens can kill. The scene when Dallas is in the shaft when he turned around and saw the alien then it cut to black - great cinema. Even though in the extended version we know he didn't die at that point. I still didn't need to see brain matter splatter on the screen to assume it didn't go down well for him.

PG 13 or not they can't rate nor censor tension when done by a master...

Yeah, you get that because you've SEEN it already. Take out the chestburster scene and half the experience would have been lost.
 
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Yeah, you get that because you've SEEN it already. Take out the chestburster scene and half the experience would have been lost.

I'm not saying mess with the original... I just mean moving forward. The blood in the white room on the white uniforms made that scene.
 
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Yeah, you get that because you've SEEN it already. Take out the chestburster scene and half the experience would have been lost.

Duh seriously? ;)
That is exactly what we are saying.
You don't need to overdo it.
Just one effective and powerful scene is enough.

Btw i'm sure that in ALIEN, if you remove the actual footage of Kane chest being ripped off full of blood, have only the reaction shots (wich also made the scene so powerfull since the actors where not expecting such blood) to the blood spatters and the chestbuster already out of the guts the scene would be aslo effective and intense.
At that time doing such thing as the violent chesbursting scene was very impressive but now we have see so much stupid violent movie thats i think we would not be as affected.

Suggestion would be more powerfull, quick shots of violence that makes you almost see it, just like in from DUSK TILL DAWN when Clonney comes back in the hotel room to find that Tarantino has butchered their hostage, only flashes images of the violent scene makes you feel dizzy.
Rather than showing the room with the body and blood everywhere.

But yet part of me wants to have a dirty and hard scifi movie, i wanna see the protagonist suffer when they die or are wounded.
I want to see the perverse and uncivilized civilization that will rip the chest and guts of the human crew of The Prometheus ship.
What Scott wanted to do before Fox pulled the plug on the movie before rewrites...
I hope the R cut will be that, not just more blood, but something more harsh, rough and cruel.

The blood in the white room on the white uniforms made that scene.
Exactly!!! This so powerful visually.
I remember something that has kinda the same effect, less OMFG reaction but creepier in BOUND by the Wachowski, Tiny drops of blood on virginal white bathroom floor.
 
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PG 13 or not they can't rate nor censor tension when done by a master...

Yes they can.

Max Payne had to lighten up the film because the tone was too dark. It was rated R based off that, and that alone.
 
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