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Ugh, I'd avoid Cyberpower, too. Usually those PC companies add in extra charges for workmanship, amongst other things. However you look at it, you'll save more money by researching and building you own PC to suit your needs. Anyone can do it. It's not like fixing a car, or building a rocket ship. Just fit a motherboard into a case, buy compatible components, plug them onto the motherboard, and you're all set..

Listen to the man! :lecture
Although I do find that working on a car is very similar to building a PC, but its probably just me.
 
Building a PC is not all that difficult, and can be pretty fun. What's great today is that you don't have to worry so much about getting bad parts, Newegg and Amazon have product reviews so you can look for the best rated parts and make sure to see if people have issues with them.
 
Building a PC is not all that difficult, and can be pretty fun. What's great today is that you don't have to worry so much about getting bad parts, Newegg and Amazon have product reviews so you can look for the best rated parts and make sure to see if people have issues with them.

Yes thats very helpful when researching parts, and is my main source of feedback for components...... I agree about it being fun, especially when assembling from scratch, I love having all the boxes unopened in front of me, ready for assembly, twice the fun if your water cooling :woo
 
I'd say the most stressful part about putting a PC together is placing the CPU on the MOBO.

Fo sho. . . then trying to figure out why it doesn't turn on when I press this GOTDAM power button!!!
 
By the way, guys, have any of you replaced your stock CPU coolers with an aftermarket cooler? I performed a stress test of my i5 3570k processor for roughly 20 minutes, with each CPU core reaching loads of roughly 91-98%. The hottest core registered a maximum temperature value of 67 degrees Celsius, while each of the other cores reached maximums at 64 degrees Celsius. Are these temperatures too hot for my processor? The ambient room temperature in my apartment is around 72 degrees Fahrenheit (or, 22 degrees Celsius) right now. I know that several of you are using i5 3570Ks as well, so I'd be really thankful for your opinions on this.
 
I use AMD 8-core processor and a large water cool system from cool master I believe. the 2 fan on the radiator will keep it cool for sure. easy to install but i had to be sure that the fan, radiator, and case all fit together.
 
I use AMD 8-core processor and a large water cool system from cool master I believe. the 2 fan on the radiator will keep it cool for sure. easy to install but i had to be sure that the fan, radiator, and case all fit together.


Ya that is why I custom build all of my WC setups.
 
By the way, guys, have any of you replaced your stock CPU coolers with an aftermarket cooler? I performed a stress test of my i5 3570k processor for roughly 20 minutes, with each CPU core reaching loads of roughly 91-98%. The hottest core registered a maximum temperature value of 67 degrees Celsius, while each of the other cores reached maximums at 64 degrees Celsius. Are these temperatures too hot for my processor? The ambient room temperature in my apartment is around 72 degrees Fahrenheit (or, 22 degrees Celsius) right now. I know that several of you are using i5 3570Ks as well, so I'd be really thankful for your opinions on this.

67? Scary. I get scared when it hits 45. Water cooling pump like how the others say?
 
By the way, guys, have any of you replaced your stock CPU coolers with an aftermarket cooler? I performed a stress test of my i5 3570k processor for roughly 20 minutes, with each CPU core reaching loads of roughly 91-98%. The hottest core registered a maximum temperature value of 67 degrees Celsius, while each of the other cores reached maximums at 64 degrees Celsius. Are these temperatures too hot for my processor? The ambient room temperature in my apartment is around 72 degrees Fahrenheit (or, 22 degrees Celsius) right now. I know that several of you are using i5 3570Ks as well, so I'd be really thankful for your opinions on this.

That's fine, if it goes beyond like 70 then it can be an issue, 74 or less is generally OK. If you're doing gaming it's not going to be as intensive on the CPU.
 
67? Scary. I get scared when it hits 45. Water cooling pump like how the others say?

I am considering some water-cooling, for lower temps and for overclocking the i5. But, I might need another case for that, as my current one's just a standard mid-tower without cable management. So, a water-cooling pump might be too much of a tight fit right now.

But, how do you manage low temperatures living in Socal? Are you using water-cooling, yourself, or do you just have a lot of fans with good circulation?

That's fine, if it goes beyond like 70 then it can be an issue, 74 or less is generally OK. If you're doing gaming it's not going to be as intensive on the CPU.

Yeah, I've suspected that games would utilize more of the GPU as opposed to processor. However, I also do drafting with AutoCAD and Inventor which does require a good bit of the CPU. I haven't noticed enormously high temps when using it, though.
 
I am considering some water-cooling, for lower temps and for overclocking the i5. But, I might need another case for that, as my current one's just a standard mid-tower without cable management. So, a water-cooling pump might be too much of a tight fit right now.

But, how do you manage low temperatures living in Socal? Are you using water-cooling, yourself, or do you just have a lot of fans with good circulation?

My water pump comes with a desktop app that allows me to configure fan speed at certain temps. So when it reaches a certain temp, the fan RPMs start climbing. Nice but it's really noisy. Not fun. Plus the PC is under my desk so that's not helping the heat problem. And it's dusty. I try to keep that clean as well with a dust can. Especially the radiator part. Also, with heating, I think I might need to flip over the PSU so that fans face the ground. :lol
 
I think one should always replace the stock CPU Cooler, I mean it isn't necessary but it does help, it also depends on what you plan on doing. Normal CPU operation doesnt require excessive cooling, neither does gaming really, unless its a demanding game.

Recently I was playing Shadow of Mordor on Ultra(1080p) and my CPU didnt go above 35C and my GPU was nice and cool too....
I don't use stock cooling but my current cooler isn't anything special either

I'm not a major advocate of water cooling unless you have noise concerns. My Dead Silence(Aerocool) fans are whisper quiet anyway. It can also be expensive.

I'm hoping to use the Cooler Master V8GTS Cooler on my new build, such a beast of a cooler, and it looks like it fell off Skynets assembly line
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I think one should always replace the stock CPU Cooler, I mean it isn't necessary but it does help, it also depends on what you plan on doing. Normal CPU operation doesnt require excessive cooling, neither does gaming really, unless its a demanding game.

Recently I was playing Shadow of Mordor on Ultra(1080p) and my CPU didnt go above 35C and my GPU was nice and cool too....
I don't use stock cooling but my current cooler isn't anything special either

I'm not a major advocate of water cooling unless you have noise concerns. My Dead Silence(Aerocool) fans are whisper quiet anyway. It can also be expensive.

I'm hoping to use the Cooler Master V8GTS Cooler on my new build, such a beast of a cooler, and it looks like it fell off Skynets assembly line
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Wow, that's so pimp. 35? Where do you live? Also, where do you keep your PC? Under a desk? On top of a desk?

Also, it reaches 45 when I play BF4 but that game's a beast. It's doing a billion things.
 
Wow, that's so pimp. 35? Where do you live? Also, where do you keep your PC? Under a desk? On top of a desk?

Also, it reaches 45 when I play BF4 but that game's a beast. It's doing a billion things.

I live in Ireland. I keep it beside my desk. My case is a CM Storm Stryker.
Cooler Master Gaming » Products: Stryker
I have installed Aerocool fans over the stock ones(which are fine), 3 on the front, 1 exhaust, I kept the stock 200mm top exhaust fan, 1 more in front of the PSU and 1 more on my cooler. The case has a built in controller.
I use the default ACX cooler on my GPU as well :wink1:

BF4 is really demanding..... but it looks crazy good.. :rotfl
 
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