Pirates of the Caribbean 4

[Batty]

Ian McShane is in talks to play Blackbeard. I hope this happens. He's great in everything he does.

Ian McShane is in negotiations to play the villain in "Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides," the fourth installment of the Disney movie series being directed by Rob Marshall.

McShane will play legendary pirate Blackbeard -- whose real name was Edward Teach -- who piloted the ship Queen Anne's Revenge.

McShane will join Johnny Depp, reprising his role of Captain Jack Sparrow, and Penelope Cruz, Sparrow's foil and equal in many ways, in a tale that revolves around the Fountain of Youth.

Terry Rossio and Ted Elliot wrote the script. Jerry Bruckheimer is producing.

A working British actor since the 1970s, McShane gained notice Stateside for his work in HBO's "Deadwood," where he played the brutal owner of a brothel. McShane starred in the short-lived TV series "Kings" and did voice work in "Coraline" and "Kung Fu Panda."

McShane is repped by ICM and Independent in the U.K.

 

[Hulksmashed]

Another one?? They should just give up and start giving these movies more fitting names:

POTC 4: We're lazy and Want more of your money

POTC 5: POTC 2 with different name, now Pony up

POTC 6: Avatar revenue generator attempt 3

POTC 7: Does it matter? Cha-Ching

 

[Agent0028]

I know I'm in the minority but I thought the last movie was a great ending to the trilogy and that another shouldn't be made. But I have to say I am getting excited about this one.

 

[Hulksmashed]

No but seriously...one thing that really bothers me is when a studio puts out a movie that is OBVIOUSLY a stand alone film that does well in the box office. Then a couple years later they start calling it a trilogy. As though it was always planned that way...

Matrix and POTC are the two most blatant examples I can think of, but I know there are others out there. LOTR (yes I know it was a trilogy of books first!) and Star Wars are of course examples at the other end of the spectrum, where a plan was obviously thought out ahead of time.

 

[MaulFan]

It was a great ending to the trilogy, but the nice thing is, it wasn't an end to Jack Sparrow's character. There wasn't much character arc for Jack over the 3 films, the story was really about Jack and Will with the adventures surrounding Jack, and I think you can easily move onto new adventures with new people and stories surrounding the adventures of Jack Sparrow. His life was left open, onto the next adventure, there was no closure for him or Barbossa so they can come back. Will and Elizabeth ran their course and did have closure on their tale, so it makes sense not to bring them back. The fun thing with pirates are that you can have all sorts of fun adventures, and I think that's what's nice about the Pirates movie, they're fun rides you never closure on, you can just keep going with it.

 

[Darth Madden]

While there were a few bad spots in 2 and 3 I loved all of them and I can't wait for a 4th. Bring on Blackbeard.

 

[MaulFan]

No but seriously...one thing that really bothers me is when a studio puts out a movie that is OBVIOUSLY a stand alone film that does well in the box office. Then a couple years later they start calling it a trilogy. As though it was always planned that way...

I don't mind it in theory, but I do find unplanned movie series tend to get weaker with the sequels because the writers get a little stuck figuring out how to carry on, especially in ones where there's almost closure at the first. The original Matrix almost seemed wrapped up at the end, Neo was the one, you figure he's about to clean things up and make it right, then it got to how can he still be busy and have 2 more films to tell this story. Star Wars recovered well from the first one having closure, if it had stayed a stand alone it'd work, and as part of a saga it still works.

Pirates falls in between the two I think, it's not as bad as Matrix but not as good as Star Wars and other series. I love all 3 Pirates movies, but there are some things that I find lackluster about 2 and 3 that I attribute to filming without the stories finished and working on both stories while shooting and just not giving the story enough thought and work.

I think the most successful path to take when you make a lone movie and then decide to come out with sequels is to treat each movie as a lone story, when you suddenly try to make a 3 part story it gets hairy because you subject may not lend to that. The concept of the heart of Davy Jones and all that might have made one solid great movie, but spread out over 2 becomes iffy.

I'm hopeful that the team is planning a trilogy or series of films from the start now with Pirates having already done 3 films and so if they do more than the 4th, they'll have already worked out a solid storyline and won't be making it up as they go, because that just doesn't work well.

 

[Agent0028]

Yeah they did a nice job leaving Jack open. But sometimes I like that opening that allows each and every person to have their own idea of what happened next to Captain Jack Sparrow. Better a sequel than a prequel though. I hate it when people have to fill in the backstory for every line and reference in a movie. I also think this is a series that lends itself nicely to a serialized movie series.

 

[MaulFan]

Well for me, the end of 3 left me thinking, I've got to see this play out, they, they left me wanting to watch it, not imagine it.

 

[LOTRFan]

While there were a few bad spots in 2 and 3 I loved all of them and I can't wait for a 4th. Bring on Blackbeard.

Thought you might say that.

 

[Customikey]

I'm a huge Ian McShane fan, and I've loved all three Pirates films, so I'm completely in. Is a fourth installment necessary? Hell no! Is it intended as a money-making venture? Uh, yeah, it and every other big budget flick. Will it be a lot of fun? Oh, I think so. And if it sucks, well, I've still got the first three. If Bond, Indiana Jones, and Darth Vader can survive a few bad films, so can the wily Captain Jack Sparrow.

 

[MaulFan]

If Bond, Indiana Jones, and Darth Vader can survive a few bad films, so can the wily Captain Jack Sparrow.

Not a character like those, but I'd add Godzilla to the mix.

 

[The Ween]

I'm glad they're making a fourth, especially with Blackbeard!

 

[The Ringer]

The realm of Pirates films are limitless and I wouldn't complain if they made even more.

 

[CelticPredator]

Yes....this is almost too perfect. I'd like Gore back on board. He's awesome.

 

[CelticPredator]

Oops...nevermind. Looks likes he's not. Oh well.

 

[drjedisith]

fun films. and more new hot toys pirates!

 

[MaulFan]

fun films. and more new hot toys pirates!

I care as much about that as I do the movie. PERS Jack Sparrow, with a proper, authentic coat and build on the HT Slim TT, with a Kojun Sparrow headsculpt.

 

[devilof76]

When 3 ended, I didn't want there to be more, but I'm getting withdrawls now so I'm ready for a new story.

That's because I'm too busy sticking my ass out the window!

Pics or...

 

[drjedisith]

I care as much about that as I do the movie. PERS Jack Sparrow, with a proper, authentic coat and build on the HT Slim TT, with a Kojun Sparrow headsculpt.

lol basically. can you imagine that and blackbeard detailing? wow. this will be awesome