Prometheus Sequel (ALIEN: Covenant)
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DiFabio is here. The great equalizer.
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But Alien = T2 in terms of being the pinnacle of their respective bilogy and source material, which is ironic because both Aliens and T2 are Cameron and have the annoying kid.
T1 and Aliens are for dumb 80'sheads.
T2ers should be on the same side as Alieners.
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Saw it today. Disappointed. I'm sure it's been discussed here already but I oddly enjoyed the film until the traditional Xeno showed up. The creature looked great, but for some reason, the film took a dive at that point.
David and Walter was great though. Enjoyed the neomorph scenes. Eh..I'll probably still buy a toy or two.
David and Walter was great though. Enjoyed the neomorph scenes. Eh..I'll probably still buy a toy or two.
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Totally, but I think at the very end of the movie it gets good again 'cuz Fassbender.
I said it a few pages back, but I'd totally buy a figure of David with the flute.
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Totally, but I think at the very end of the movie it gets good again 'cuz Fassbender.
I said it a few pages back, but I'd totally buy a figure of David with the flute.
Yeah, if any toy company makes David from this movie, he must come with a flute
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Yeah, if any toy company makes David from this movie, he must come with a flute
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I like all 4.
T2 is the best of those 4 though.
Also Terminators > Aliens
Not the movies mind you, just the idea of time traveling cyborg infilitrators vs. muh perfect organisms. As a kid I wasn't even afraid of the Alien, Aliens or Predator. That jump scare where the Alien is in the shaft and grabs Dallas always looked like someone with gloves to me. In fact, Ash scared me more than the Alien, especially when he freaks out and starts twirling around or when he takes the porno and rolls it up to stuff down Ripley's throat. The thing that will always cement the Terminator as top dog for me is the surgery scene. That scared the hell out of me.
I prefer Aliens to Alien solely for the Marines. Aliens is the only Alien movie where you get to see those things BTFO by gunfire, flamethrowers and explosives. Feels good man. The original Alien gets sucked out of the airlock and floats into space like a dope. Not so good.
But really though, The Thing > Alien
That **** still gives me nightmares, especially Norris Thing.
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I guess it's a matter of whether or not you prefer a ninja(Alien) or a Brute(Aliens)
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my take:
It's no great secret Scott HATES the queen concept and idea. How I think the eggs came to be, in David's experiments on Shaw, her being female, perhaps he was able to extract an egg or something from her reproductive system and mix it with the goop and some other indigenous insect. HOWEVER, if you recall in Prometheus, Shaw clearly says 'I can't create life' so she's barren. That said, it would cast a bit of doubt on the success of David using any part of her for experimentation purposes from a reproductive standpoint.
The eggs in Covenant are obviously the first iteration of the egg as the xeno which is subsequently born from it, even that is a first iteration so more evolution is needed. That said, how the cargo hold full of eggs comes to be, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that somehow David is able to just engineer them all and mass produce them, since Scott refuses to accept the Queen angle, he won't have anything laying eggs in the next movie (if he even makes it). David probably is able to use the colonists in cryosleep to make the 'thousands of eggs', and Walter (who I think isn't dead) finds another Engineer ship on the planet, and flies it in pursuit of David on the covenant. Walter then manages to get the eggs off the Covenant, probably destroying it in the process and then pilots the juggernaught with the eggs in status and eventually crashes on LV-426 but then made the warning signal before crashing. Obviously he would have had to be impregnated somehow, but that's what my money's on.
You can't even say that whatever birthed from whoever was on that ship became a queen then laid all the eggs in the cargo hold because Scott won't have anything with the Queen at all.
The eggs in Covenant are obviously the first iteration of the egg as the xeno which is subsequently born from it, even that is a first iteration so more evolution is needed. That said, how the cargo hold full of eggs comes to be, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that somehow David is able to just engineer them all and mass produce them, since Scott refuses to accept the Queen angle, he won't have anything laying eggs in the next movie (if he even makes it). David probably is able to use the colonists in cryosleep to make the 'thousands of eggs', and Walter (who I think isn't dead) finds another Engineer ship on the planet, and flies it in pursuit of David on the covenant. Walter then manages to get the eggs off the Covenant, probably destroying it in the process and then pilots the juggernaught with the eggs in status and eventually crashes on LV-426 but then made the warning signal before crashing. Obviously he would have had to be impregnated somehow, but that's what my money's on.
You can't even say that whatever birthed from whoever was on that ship became a queen then laid all the eggs in the cargo hold because Scott won't have anything with the Queen at all.
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I agree as far as none of that being scary to me as a kid, I think the first fictional violence I was exposed to when I was a kid was either Predator 1 or the colonist chestburster scene in Aliens, and I was like "cooool".
Since then Predator 1 has been my absolute favorite.
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I don't get the divide between Alien and Aliens, they're both great and continue to hold up on their own. I get many don't like the 'bug' aspect but I was ok with it and to me just made a bit of sense. I guess I never dwelled on who the space jockey was, or WHY it was there or WHY it was carrying the eggs or WHO laid them. You can 'roll with it' much easier with Aliens than Prometheus and certainly Covenant.
As a sci-fi horror Alien is untouchable and a masterpiece and will always be a slight step up over Aliens. As a sci-fi action movie, Aliens is the benchmark and is over many other sci-fi action movies. And for the record T1 is better than T2....
As a sci-fi horror Alien is untouchable and a masterpiece and will always be a slight step up over Aliens. As a sci-fi action movie, Aliens is the benchmark and is over many other sci-fi action movies. And for the record T1 is better than T2....
jye4ever
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I don't get the divide between Alien and Aliens, they're both great and continue to hold up on their own. I get many don't like the 'bug' aspect but I was ok with it and to me just made a bit of sense. I guess I never dwelled on who the space jockey was, or WHY it was there or WHY it was carrying the eggs or WHO laid them. You can 'roll with it' much easier with Aliens than Prometheus and certainly Covenant.
As a sci-fi horror Alien is untouchable and a masterpiece and will always be a slight step up over Aliens. As a sci-fi action movie, Aliens is the benchmark and is over many other sci-fi action movies. And for the record T1 is better than T2....
I totally agree with your post.
Everything except for that last part. I prefer T2.
jye4ever
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I don't get the divide between Alien and Aliens, they're both great and continue to hold up on their own. I get many don't like the 'bug' aspect but I was ok with it and to me just made a bit of sense. I guess I never dwelled on who the space jockey was, or WHY it was there or WHY it was carrying the eggs or WHO laid them. You can 'roll with it' much easier with Aliens than Prometheus and certainly Covenant.
As a sci-fi horror Alien is untouchable and a masterpiece and will always be a slight step up over Aliens. As a sci-fi action movie, Aliens is the benchmark and is over many other sci-fi action movies. And for the record T1 is better than T2....
Oh man I was so agreeing with your excellent post until that last sentence....
