Prometheus Sequel (ALIEN: Covenant)

[a-dev]

And just to add to your spider phobia. As a fellow Irishman I was pretty happy that up until very recently there were no harmful spiders in Ireland. We are now over run with false widow spiders, their bite can leave a large decaying hole in your skin. Seriously they are everywhere. And you will only see them at night with a torch because they wait for darkness before they come out. I counted 15 of them in the garden last night and 5 inside the house. It's been covered up by the media as to how dangerous they can be.

Yes, very rushed. Facehugger takes five minutes to impregnate the dude, chestburster comes out soon after, takes another five minutes to become full size Xeno. Then they give us a Cliff's Notes version of the finales of both A3 and A1 without Daniels so much as breaking a sweat. The days of a single Xeno wiping out the entire cast are long gone.

I thought that was because Daniels (like the audience) had clearly seen Alien and Aliens at the cinema or something and that's why she immediately knew that the airlock was the tried and tested method wait what do you mean covenant is supposed to be set in the same universe as those movies .... oh ok then maybe there was like a manual on board the ship with steps to follow in the event of third act emergency when a protobigchapmorph gets on board? ... wait this is a prequel to those movies but but but nothing makes sense anymore!

Yes I still like the movie in spite of it's flaws and "non-canon" status as well. But it's like they looked at TFA and said "I guess the best way to win old fans back is to just hit the same beats as the original film but with a more rushed finale." Yes Han looked at Starkiller Base and said "So how do we blow it up, there's always a way," compared to ANH when he considered an attack on a smaller base to be "suicide." But Han gets to say that because he had already helped blow up two of the stupid things already! A prequel with all new characters should never be going through the motions of hard fought victories achieved by characters that didn't even exist in the timeline yet.

Jeez it sounds terrible. Early buzz was positive but, as so often, it didn't last.

 

[Khev]

You haven't seen it yet a-dev??

 

[a-dev]

No. ****ers all went on a day I couldn't go. And I still haven't lost my ''going to the cinema alone'' virginity. Don't think I'm going to do it on this film.

 

[Khev]

No. ****ers all went on a day I couldn't go. And I still haven't lost my ''going to the cinema alone'' virginity. Don't think I'm going to do it on this film.

My assessment:

Rushed intro with virtually no character development
Stupid characters repeating plots we've seen before in this very same series
Rushed finale

Sounds pretty bad huh? It basically is.

I think the best comparison I can make between Covenant and another film is...RoboCop 2. Now the acting and music is lightyears better than R2 but with both R2 and Covenant you've got two basically bad sequels that are (mostly) redeemed by the schlocky mayhem. A dubious endorsement to be sure and one that will undoubtedly not be enough for the majority of filmgoers (especially if this thread is any indication.)

 

[jye4ever]

Yes I still like the movie in spite of it's flaws and "non-canon" status as well. But it's like they looked at TFA and said "I guess the best way to win old fans back is to just hit the same beats as the original film but with a more rushed finale." Yes Han looked at Starkiller Base and said "So how do we blow it up, there's always a way," compared to ANH when he considered an attack on a smaller base to be "suicide." But Han gets to say that because he had already helped blow up two of the stupid things already! A prequel with all new characters should never be going through the motions of hard fought victories achieved by characters that didn't even exist in the timeline yet.

Thanks for making it even worse for me lol

Now my wife wants to see it after watching Pro lastnight.

So far only movie i've seen twice was Logan v Evil White People

 

[Khev]

Thanks for making it even worse for me lol

Now my wife wants to see it after watching Pro lastnight.

Enjoy your new bed after getting her psyched to watch Covenant:

 

[Chakor]

Keep in mind that this is coming from a non-horror fan, but are the characters from some of the definitive horror classics really that much smarter/better than the paper-thin human protagonists in this film? The only slasher franchise that I ever thought had any protagonists with actual wit was the Scream series.

Just as an example off the top of my head, the only protagonist who had any degree of wit in the original Halloween was Laurie - the rest of her friends were beyond predictably stupid - just like the characters in this film, IMHO. ...okay, Loomis was smart but he and Laurie were pretty much it.

I'm not defending Covenant here by any means, just sayin'.

 

[Bravomite]

Warning do not hype this movie to your wife like I did! My wife was so so so bored during this film that she declared it the worst movie she had seen this year so far. That was until I reminded her of 50 shades darker... (which as it turned out was a mistake). She insisted that I owed her a cinema trip of her choosing in return for this cinematic disappointment (which I agreed to because she is pregnant) and in a move that would make David proud she immediately cashed it in for 50 shades 3 next year

 

[Khev]

Keep in mind that this is coming from a non-horror fan, but are the characters from some of the definitive horror classics really that much smarter/better than the paper-thin human protagonists in this film?

Well at the very least the main characters in the first three Alien films alone were all geniuses compared to the Covenant crew. Also we got to know the personalities of the main characters much better prior to things hitting the fan in A1/A2/A3 (even Prometheus.)

She insisted that I owed her a cinema trip of her choosing in return for this cinematic disappointment (which I agreed to because she is pregnant) and in a move that would make David proud she immediately cashed it in for 50 shades 3 next year

 

[Chakor]

Well at the very least the main characters in the first three Alien films alone were all geniuses compared to the Covenant crew.

LOL, true. I was mainly talking about slasher films, not the rest of the Alien franchise films.

 

[Khev]

LOL, true. I was mainly talking about slasher films, not the rest of the Alien franchise films.

Also John Carpenter's The Thing. Very smart characters in that one too.

But otherwise I hear you which is actually the only reason I enjoyed Covenant. I can stomach things like RoboCop 2 and Deep Star Six so for me Covenant wasn't that bad.

 

[Chakor]

Also John Carpenter's The Thing. Very smart characters in that one too.

I haven't seen that one in about seven years - I'll have to re-watch it sometime soon, maybe next winter when it's more appropriate.

 

[crows]

And just to add to your spider phobia. As a fellow Irishman I was pretty happy that up until very recently there were no harmful spiders in Ireland. We are now over run with false widow spiders, their bite can leave a large decaying hole in your skin. Seriously they are everywhere. And you will only see them at night with a torch because they wait for darkness before they come out. I counted 15 of them in the garden last night and 5 inside the house. It's been covered up by the media as to how dangerous they can be.

Is that their name? False widow? Like in here?

 

[Chakor]

Is that their name? False widow? Like in here?

 

[crows]

Didnt u hear jye????? Thats gonna attract more piders!!!!

 

[Chakor]

Didnt u hear jye????? Thats gonna attract more piders!!!!

 

[Wor-Gar]

 

[jye4ever]

 

[crows]

 

[Caped Baldy]

As creepy as the Facehuggers have always been, nothing has got my skin crawling like the poisonous head crabs from Half-Life 2. Even in the alien video games the facehuggers never give me the willies like these ****ers do.