QMX Star Trek General discussion thread

[Asta]

I spoke to Dave at the con. The Firefly figures will need some type of media tie-in to move the line forward. It’s not cancelled but no immediate plans to release anything new.

TNG - Far less popular than TOS. Sales have confirmed that fact. QMx is evaluating their planned releases. Will still come out but probably not at a steady tick (my take from the conversation).

TOS - the real reason I was even there. I bet the farm on Mezco because they looked pretty good, were cheaper/took up less space and Mez looked to be dedicated to going at least Bridge Crew deep. Boy was I wrong. Mez is likely done based on IG DMs with them. So I decided to put my money on QMx. To my dismay, I’ve missed the boat on Kirk and Spock apparently. Hence the discussion with Dave. I explained that in order for me to go in with Bones, Sulu or Scotty and Uhura, I need Kirk & Spock. He explained that they were looking at exactly that same issue. They are aware of the high secondary (fleebay) prices and are looking at how to get the big two in everyone’s hand to support the sales of the remaining crew. Perhaps Mirror Mirror or dress uni’s or a two pack or something. But they are aware of the limiting nature of the big two no longer being available. This is also when we were told how much more robust Kirks sales were compared to Picards.

Also, they are looking at their release schedule and strategy. This may lead to releasing similar to what someone mentioned with the TOS leading the charge and the other series to follow.

That being said, anyone have a Kirk and Spock they want to get rid of?

Thanks for the update.

It's something to pin our hopes on.

Just have to be patient - at least they'll be worth waiting for.

I feel like we're on the cusp of good news. Nanjin teased DS9 figures again and there's a trek vegas con thing on August 1st where QMX are gonna do a presentation on their figures. What I think is gonna happen is that at comic con, we'll probably see 1 or 2 new figures, some of the ones we always see as well and then in August, I bet we get some kind of major announcement about how the line will proceed and how frequently we'll get characters, etc. I know I haven't given up on the line. I love my Kirk, Spock and Picard and could never part with them. I just want some more crewman for them to pose with.

Nanjin touched on this in a Facebook post.

Nanjin Tam I will be holding a Trek 1/6 panel at Vegas Trek Con. I believe an official road map will be announced by then.

 

[Oxnard Montalvo]

I spoke to Dave at the con. The Firefly figures will need some type of media tie-in to move the line forward. It’s not cancelled but no immediate plans to release anything new.

TNG - Far less popular than TOS. Sales have confirmed that fact. QMx is evaluating their planned releases. Will still come out but probably not at a steady tick (my take from the conversation).

TOS - the real reason I was even there. I bet the farm on Mezco because they looked pretty good, were cheaper/took up less space and Mez looked to be dedicated to going at least Bridge Crew deep. Boy was I wrong. Mez is likely done based on IG DMs with them. So I decided to put my money on QMx. To my dismay, I’ve missed the boat on Kirk and Spock apparently. Hence the discussion with Dave. I explained that in order for me to go in with Bones, Sulu or Scotty and Uhura, I need Kirk & Spock. He explained that they were looking at exactly that same issue. They are aware of the high secondary (fleebay) prices and are looking at how to get the big two in everyone’s hand to support the sales of the remaining crew. Perhaps Mirror Mirror or dress uni’s or a two pack or something. But they are aware of the limiting nature of the big two no longer being available. This is also when we were told how much more robust Kirks sales were compared to Picards.

Also, they are looking at their release schedule and strategy. This may lead to releasing similar to what someone mentioned with the TOS leading the charge and the other series to follow.

That being said, anyone have a Kirk and Spock they want to get rid of?

Thanks for finding SOMETHING out at least. Although I slightly disagree about the Picard issue. I really think the staining was responsible for his low sales, word of mouth travels fast and I think that seriously impacted his potential success. He possibly also might have done better if released with Data, as Kirk Was with Spock.

 

[spindrift]

TNG line is over- pretty much on the backburner-if Picard can't sell that sums it up. the staining issue to me was not the factor hurting sales.

 

[Stryker2011]

I spoke to Dave at the con. The Firefly figures will need some type of media tie-in to move the line forward. It’s not cancelled but no immediate plans to release anything new.

So... since the chances of this happening are ZERO, the line IS dead. Everyone hoping for Buffy figures from QMX may as well put that to rest, too.

 

[Oxnard Montalvo]

TNG line is over- pretty much on the backburner-if Picard can't sell that sums it up. the staining issue to me was not the factor hurting sales.

It's a real shame, the staining on mine was not bad at all, covered easily by the collar, but the word of mouth about it was everywhere, whenever the figure was discussed, the dye bleed was inevitably the first thing talked about, so I'm sure that influenced a lot of people not to take a chance. But you are right, I dearly love TOS. I was a fan long before TNG, but unfortunately, only focusing on TOS (Kirk and Spock specifically) has torpedoed many a licence through dimishing returns.

 

[Kebron]

Thanks for the update.

Ugg PR speak. Firefly dead unless by some miracle they make a new show or movie. TNG maybe dead or releaseing at a rate that it might as well be dead. TOS they are going to pull a Hot Toys and make multiple versions of their most popular figures to support the release of the remaining crew members. I’m not sure that’s going to work out for them like they hope.

Over on Rebel Scum I read a quote from one of the QmX people at SDCC. They were asked about the Falcon cutaway ship that they teased years ago. QmX said they are out of the ship market and focusing on collectibles that fans can afford. With the amount of stuff they have been putting out that is under 100.00 and that 1/6 is a higher priced market that a lot of fans can’t afford I can see QmX folding up their 1/6 department if The Princess Bride figures and the next Star Trek release doesn’t do well.

 

[spindrift]

Thanks for the update.

Ugg PR speak. Firefly dead unless by some miracle they make a new show or movie. TNG maybe dead or releaseing at a rate that it might as well be dead. TOS they are going to pull a Hot Toys and make multiple versions of their most popular figures to support the release of the remaining crew members. I’m not sure that’s going to work out for them like they hope.

Over on Rebel Scum I read a quote from one of the QmX people at SDCC. They were asked about the Falcon cutaway ship that they teased years ago. QmX said they are out of the ship market and focusing on collectibles that fans can afford. With the amount of stuff they have been putting out that is under 100.00 and that 1/6 is a higher priced market that a lot of fans can’t afford I can see QmX folding up their 1/6 department if The Princess Bride figures and the next Star Trek release doesn’t do well.

Agreed- the Trek figures now are such a small niche product- they aren't selling against HT Marvel and SW...the price is steep. I don't see the line continuing at this point- they tease Scotty and discuss others but until I see some announcements I think they have put everything on indefinite hold

 

[Oxnard Montalvo]

Thanks for the update.

Ugg PR speak. Firefly dead unless by some miracle they make a new show or movie. TNG maybe dead or releaseing at a rate that it might as well be dead. TOS they are going to pull a Hot Toys and make multiple versions of their most popular figures to support the release of the remaining crew members. I’m not sure that’s going to work out for them like they hope.

Over on Rebel Scum I read a quote from one of the QmX people at SDCC. They were asked about the Falcon cutaway ship that they teased years ago. QmX said they are out of the ship market and focusing on collectibles that fans can afford. With the amount of stuff they have been putting out that is under 100.00 and that 1/6 is a higher priced market that a lot of fans can’t afford I can see QmX folding up their 1/6 department if The Princess Bride figures and the next Star Trek release doesn’t do well.

Everyone is waiting for Scotty. So long as they get him out relatively soon, I'm sure sales will be good and they'll have confidence in Trek again. I'm a little worried by the inference above that we're not going to get Chekov at all, given how low down the pecking order he is and the fact that Nanjin doesn't seem to particularly care for the character.

 

[Kebron]

Here’s a further thought. I’m not sure Scotty will even come out or if he does he probably won’t sell well. People are losing faith in this line, what they said at SDCC doesn’t help. Will collectors really want a Scotty if they know or think the rest of the line isn’t coming, or at best will be several years down the road? McCoy apparently hasn’t sold to well and he’s a more popular character then Scotty.

 

[Kebron]

And another thought.

Nanjin posted before Khan came out that he needed him to sell quick to prove a point to QmX or something along those lines. Dave recently posted that with the Princess Bride Wesley release to no wait around on the pre order, basically hinting not a lot of them are going to be made.

It would seem that if we get Scotty the order might be based of what pre orders they get, and if we get him I would bet his number might be lower the Khan’s. If that’s the case we might be waiting a while. I read a article that the factories that make these and statues are way over booked now. Lots of companies looking to book time to get product made and product with a lower order number gets pushed back in favor of product with higher order numbers.

 

[Drake]

I'll definitely be grabbing Scotty if they release him. Same with Sulu and any other TOS related figures, but I've rather resigned myself to the fact that I'm probably collecting an away team rather than a full bridge crew at this point. Still, I'll always be happy to have such great versions of Kirk, Spock and McCoy, so anything else I see as a bonus from here on out. I really am hoping for that Scotty to happen, though.

As for other Trek lines, as much as I love all the various shows, I'll be honest, I've lost confidence to a certain degree, and I'd be reluctant to jump on board any of the other proposed Trek lines at this point, given the current situation and what has been said recently. For me, if I can't feel that i'll eventually at least get an away team sized representation of a given show on my shelf, then it just doesn't feel worth it for me, as I would never be happy with anything less than three characters from a show to represent it on my shelf, no matter how nice the figures that are made turn out. Trek is all about the ensemble for me, so I just can't get my head around trying to represent any given show with only a single character or two. That may seem harsh, but few of us have bottomless pockets and endless patience, so sometimes hard choices have to be made. Just my personal take on things, anyway.

 

[Sybeck1]

Chekov or we riot!

 

[darthkush]

I feel like Picard didnt have a fair shot. It wasn't him, it was the staining. I was dying to have that figure and even I considered cancelling because the word of mouth was so toxic. Had he not had that issue he would've sold way better. I think if they put out one more TNG figure(and it has to be Data or Word. Nobody else will hit numbers they are gonna want) and it has 0 issues, that line is workable. As for original series, I think Scotty is a go and I believe Sulu since he's already proto. After that I expect Wrath of Khan figured and if we're lucky maybe we'll get Uhura before the line officially ends. Wish this line had more support[emoji26]

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[darthkush]

And I will say it again, offer Kirk and Spock again as A characters in a 2 pack. Kirk is extra easy cause he had other main outfits. For Spock, give him more accessories or maybe even an new headsculpt with an different expression. Release Scotty alone but for Sulu and Uhura do them alone AND as two packs with Kirk or Spock. Instant fix.

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[davejames]

I spoke to Dave at the con. The Firefly figures will need some type of media tie-in to move the line forward. It’s not cancelled but no immediate plans to release anything new.

TNG - Far less popular than TOS. Sales have confirmed that fact. QMx is evaluating their planned releases. Will still come out but probably not at a steady tick (my take from the conversation).

TOS - the real reason I was even there. I bet the farm on Mezco because they looked pretty good, were cheaper/took up less space and Mez looked to be dedicated to going at least Bridge Crew deep. Boy was I wrong. Mez is likely done based on IG DMs with them. So I decided to put my money on QMx. To my dismay, I’ve missed the boat on Kirk and Spock apparently. Hence the discussion with Dave. I explained that in order for me to go in with Bones, Sulu or Scotty and Uhura, I need Kirk & Spock. He explained that they were looking at exactly that same issue. They are aware of the high secondary (fleebay) prices and are looking at how to get the big two in everyone’s hand to support the sales of the remaining crew. Perhaps Mirror Mirror or dress uni’s or a two pack or something. But they are aware of the limiting nature of the big two no longer being available. This is also when we were told how much more robust Kirks sales were compared to Picards.

Also, they are looking at their release schedule and strategy. This may lead to releasing similar to what someone mentioned with the TOS leading the charge and the other series to follow.

That being said, anyone have a Kirk and Spock they want to get rid of?

Well that was a disheartening read, but it does explain why we haven't seen any new Trek figures lately. And if even Picard doesn't sell well it makes the possibility of other TNG or DS9 figures even less likely (although I'm sure we'll still get a Data at least).

The other factor no one seems to talk about, and that I think had an impact on sales, was the quality of the headsculpts. Kirk looked absolutely amazing which naturally made everyone (even casual collectors) want to get one, but I never saw nearly as much enthusiasm online for the other sculpts. Which probably left only a smaller number of diehard fans and completists buying them up.

 

[darthkush]

Considering the price point, I thought the headsculpt were fine. I think if they were hot toys prices or Blitzway it'd be more of an issue. This is partially what killed star ace for me. Charging hot toys prices for their last Harry and Hermione but having them look like... They looked, especially that final Hermione.

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[karamazov80]

Honestly, the stain issue did affect my interest in Picard. I only bought when it was $100 shipped because of that. But I also feel the original series is much more iconic. I grew up with Next Gen, and love it, but if you want iconic figures on your display, original series will trump Next Gen every time. So, that played a big role I think. With DST, they did a score of original series Minimates, in all kinds of designs (green suit Kirk, battle damaged Kirk, Mirror Mirror Kirk, gladiator Kirk, you name it). Next Gen-wise? We got 3 versions of Picard, a few Borg, Spock from Unification, and that was pretty much it. So, this isn't just a function of the staining.

And I will say it again, offer Kirk and Spock again as A characters in a 2 pack. Kirk is extra easy cause he had other main outfits. For Spock, give him more accessories or maybe even an new headsculpt with an different expression. Release Scotty alone but for Sulu and Uhura do them alone AND as two packs with Kirk or Spock. Instant fix.

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Spock's brain version of Spock!

Or the weird looking suit and hairstyle he wore in "The Cage."

 

[davejames]

I'd freakin love some Cage figures, but that's probably another one we can forget about ever seeing now.

 

[darthkush]

Honestly, the stain issue did affect my interest in Picard. I only bought when it was $100 shipped because of that. But I also feel the original series is much more iconic. I grew up with Next Gen, and love it, but if you want iconic figures on your display, original series will trump Next Gen every time. So, that played a big role I think. With DST, they did a score of original series Minimates, in all kinds of designs (green suit Kirk, battle damaged Kirk, Mirror Mirror Kirk, gladiator Kirk, you name it). Next Gen-wise? We got 3 versions of Picard, a few Borg, Spock from Unification, and that was pretty much it. So, this isn't just a function of the staining.



Spock's brain version of Spock!

Or the weird looking suit and hairstyle he wore in "The Cage."

DST also did all THESE. I mean, I have friggin Ensign Ro! They went deep!

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[darthkush]

As for Kirk and Spock...why not Amok time? Spock has the purple sash but mostly same outfit just new accessories. Kirk is similar but just has "battle damage". Regular but different enough for those that have them already to double dip for another crew member.

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