I think had I not had a high quality bash of Vince and Jukes for a little while, the simple elation of having two figures I've wanted for a decade and half would have been enough to make me happy wth the Rainman offerings, but the fact that these two were done and by Rainman is not fact enough to make me happy with the offerings. Yes standards are high these days an no artist or company hits it right every time, but these are two iconic characters I feel that continually get short changed so I can't help but be disappointed by the fact they are not up to the usual Rainman standards.