Patriot666
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Rainman project: Overlook Caretaker
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The screen used axe was approximately 90 cm long, which is about 36".
The handle length is really not something to argue about. The artists that makes these does one off commissions, he can likely make these things as long as anyone would prefer.
The handle length is really not something to argue about. The artists that makes these does one off commissions, he can likely make these things as long as anyone would prefer.
Leon 911
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Agreed and that's what needs to be done!
Absolutely spot on!
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My opinion is I would just like to have an axe that looks like real wood and metal. I don't care too much with the sizing whether it be the same or smaller. As long as it looks cool I'm in. So whatever you guys decide, I am in either way.
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swing the connected arms back a little...play with it a bit until their feet are fairly flat. That worked for me. or glue another magnet on the sole so they stick to the base better
I did the same thing you suggested and got them to stand almost about right. If you look close at the feet though, you can see a slight tilt to the one side but close enough. I was thinking of adding another magnet to the other shoe as well.
turbo.VS.ozone
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This debate should be called shortman for the short axe 
The irony.
7" compared to the Rainman 71/2" axe isn't going to make a world of difference. That's definately not a detail that most are concerned with. This started out about making the axe real wood and metal. That's the important part of it all. Fergo knows best but again I say Rainman's is the correct template to use
Now is there any interest in the shirts being made? It got quiet about that. Let's set somthing up. Swatch and pattern is ready to go.
The irony.7" compared to the Rainman 71/2" axe isn't going to make a world of difference. That's definately not a detail that most are concerned with. This started out about making the axe real wood and metal. That's the important part of it all. Fergo knows best but again I say Rainman's is the correct template to use
Now is there any interest in the shirts being made? It got quiet about that. Let's set somthing up. Swatch and pattern is ready to go.
... Oooorrr Mr. Accuracy's usual contradictory ignorant horses***! 
Yea, I keep suggesting to make 2 sizes to make everyone happy but I guess that's not got enough. IDK know what better solution there could be
Yea, I keep suggesting to make 2 sizes to make everyone happy but I guess that's not got enough. IDK know what better solution there could be
ishothimsixtimes
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Keep laughing buddy and you'll get the crane kick....
Patriot666
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Who knew there were all these fat Spidermen running around. Awesome!
turbo.VS.ozone
Super Freak
Shining Axe
"A number of fire axes were created for filming. Photographs from the set show as many as a dozen differing versions lined up ready for use. The axe in The Prop Store collection is a real axe and would have been required for practical use. The wood grain actually matches to the incredible scenes where Nicholson breaks down the first bedroom door! It measures approximately 90 cm long and with the exception of some light rust it is in amazing condition given its age. It was purchased from a senior crew member who became great friends with the Kubrick family as well as Nicholson and Duvall. His virtually unrivalled set access also allowed him to take a great number of remarkable behind the scenes photographs. Perhaps the most intriguing of which is reproduced here showing Jack in his final position, frozen in the snow, but with a head rest and cushions nicely out of camera line (featured right). We purchased the copyright of this incredible archive and, along with the axe they form an amazing piece of movie making history."
Note: A number of DIFFERENT AXES were used on set during filming. Does the shortman really think only one axe at one length was made? CMON'
Jack's fire axe prop replica from 'The Shining' - build/scratch build
"Jack's fire axe prop replica from 'The Shining' - build/scratch build
Since reading 'Doctor Sleep', I've been on a Stevie King retrospective and have gone back to re-read several of my favourite King novels, including 'IT', 'Pet Semetary' and 'The Shining'. It's always great to revisit these past favourites, they never get old to me and I have thoroughly enjoyed revisiting the characters and situations.
I have undertaken a brief study of the axe from 'The Shining' in order to create a replica for my own collection. This was also prompted from a visit to the US a couple of weeks back, which brought me within inches of both a stunt axe and a hero axe from the film. I decided I would like to own a replica.
In the movie, the basic model used is a pick head American fire axe. Several different axes were used in the production, including a few hero axes, several fiberglass stunt axes and at least two 'gag' axes which were used in **** Halloran's death scene. The 'gag' axes were recently on show at a Kubrick exhibition in the states.
My recent photograph's of the Hero axe in the Disney archives and of a stunt axe from Planet Hollywood. I've included a snap I took of Jack's jacket, also at Disney:
As far as I can determine, there are variances between ALL of the known different axe props, including slightly different shades to the wooden handles, longer or shorter pick-axe parts on the head from axe to axe and different axe head placements leaving a longer or shorter visible 'knub' below the axe head.
There seem to be a lot of 'screen used' axes out there, some may be questionable in terms of authenticity. Out of these known examples, the props have developed varying degrees of corrosion and weathering. In the film, the axes all seem to have a fairly new, shiny look to them without much weathering. The screen-used wooden handles however appear to have a satin or matt finish, rather than a high gloss varnished look to them."
.....so with that said none of this matters to making a toy axe with an exact measurement to the film used props. Everything in 1/6 can't be exact measured without considering the visual impact a toy should have compared to life sized things.
Has anyone considered that maybe Rainman purposely made the axe a bit longer inorder to accommodate the posing visual. In laments terms, the accessory has to give a little inorder to achieve a believable visual effect that will accommodate the myriad of different poses.
"A number of fire axes were created for filming. Photographs from the set show as many as a dozen differing versions lined up ready for use. The axe in The Prop Store collection is a real axe and would have been required for practical use. The wood grain actually matches to the incredible scenes where Nicholson breaks down the first bedroom door! It measures approximately 90 cm long and with the exception of some light rust it is in amazing condition given its age. It was purchased from a senior crew member who became great friends with the Kubrick family as well as Nicholson and Duvall. His virtually unrivalled set access also allowed him to take a great number of remarkable behind the scenes photographs. Perhaps the most intriguing of which is reproduced here showing Jack in his final position, frozen in the snow, but with a head rest and cushions nicely out of camera line (featured right). We purchased the copyright of this incredible archive and, along with the axe they form an amazing piece of movie making history."
Note: A number of DIFFERENT AXES were used on set during filming. Does the shortman really think only one axe at one length was made? CMON'
Jack's fire axe prop replica from 'The Shining' - build/scratch build
"Jack's fire axe prop replica from 'The Shining' - build/scratch build
Since reading 'Doctor Sleep', I've been on a Stevie King retrospective and have gone back to re-read several of my favourite King novels, including 'IT', 'Pet Semetary' and 'The Shining'. It's always great to revisit these past favourites, they never get old to me and I have thoroughly enjoyed revisiting the characters and situations.
I have undertaken a brief study of the axe from 'The Shining' in order to create a replica for my own collection. This was also prompted from a visit to the US a couple of weeks back, which brought me within inches of both a stunt axe and a hero axe from the film. I decided I would like to own a replica.
In the movie, the basic model used is a pick head American fire axe. Several different axes were used in the production, including a few hero axes, several fiberglass stunt axes and at least two 'gag' axes which were used in **** Halloran's death scene. The 'gag' axes were recently on show at a Kubrick exhibition in the states.
My recent photograph's of the Hero axe in the Disney archives and of a stunt axe from Planet Hollywood. I've included a snap I took of Jack's jacket, also at Disney:
As far as I can determine, there are variances between ALL of the known different axe props, including slightly different shades to the wooden handles, longer or shorter pick-axe parts on the head from axe to axe and different axe head placements leaving a longer or shorter visible 'knub' below the axe head.
There seem to be a lot of 'screen used' axes out there, some may be questionable in terms of authenticity. Out of these known examples, the props have developed varying degrees of corrosion and weathering. In the film, the axes all seem to have a fairly new, shiny look to them without much weathering. The screen-used wooden handles however appear to have a satin or matt finish, rather than a high gloss varnished look to them."
.....so with that said none of this matters to making a toy axe with an exact measurement to the film used props. Everything in 1/6 can't be exact measured without considering the visual impact a toy should have compared to life sized things.
Has anyone considered that maybe Rainman purposely made the axe a bit longer inorder to accommodate the posing visual. In laments terms, the accessory has to give a little inorder to achieve a believable visual effect that will accommodate the myriad of different poses.
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ishothimsixtimes
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Nowhere in any of that does it say there were differing handle lengths though, and it's the handle appearing overly long on RM's that most seem to have a gripe with as far as I can see.
Yes I think us "laments" get it.
Like I said earlier the axe maker can make any length people desire. Its a running interest list here, but this guy can really make anything people want.... longer or shorter.
In that pic of all the screen axes lined up they're the same length. Sure there are real metal hero axes and safety stunt axes but they aren't different sizes and none appeared to be 45". These things should generally be based on the hero version anyway and not fx or stunt versions. RM axe is too long. 
I lament that this conversation ever started in the first place.
Origami
Super Freak
Guys, I don't see we all are going to agree on one size, I talked to Fergo and he can make 2 versions, one exactly same size as RM's and the other one at 7 inch long, so we can please everyone. But as this is a big run, he is not going to do any other custom size or all the different axe sizes shown in the movie. if you may want a different custom size you can wait until this run is done and then commission a one off from him.
Leon 911
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Rainmans new project: Overlook Caretaker
Is that 90 cm in the article accurate - that "epic scene" in which he breaks the bedroom door? If so that translates to approx 36 inches! Wheres all the accuracy "ocd" now!
So if accuracy is not an issue why don't we include an axe even taller than Jack to make him look like the "death God" - even more menacing!
I have a lot of respect for Rm but many a times he has missed the mark on several things (everyone does from time to time)
We are all grown ups - let your egos aside guys!
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Is that 90 cm in the article accurate - that "epic scene" in which he breaks the bedroom door? If so that translates to approx 36 inches! Wheres all the accuracy "ocd" now!
So if accuracy is not an issue why don't we include an axe even taller than Jack to make him look like the "death God" - even more menacing!
I have a lot of respect for Rm but many a times he has missed the mark on several things (everyone does from time to time)
We are all grown ups - let your egos aside guys!
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Thanks Pedro, and sorry to everyone that this has become way more complicated than need be. 2 sizes is as easy a fix as it could possibly be. No clue why this dude is continuing to push his agenda for any other reason than to win the argument. And I'm not even looking for an argument, I just think it's pointless if this gets done wrong twice. There's a list a 40 people here and not everyone is in agreement. 2 sizes. SO SIMPLE MAN! God!
The axe measurement isn't 100% straightforward because it measures 7½" from the peak point on the top of the head to the very tip of the handle. I'll post pics tonight that'll make sense of that if it doesn't already
Fo' serious!!!
Leon 911
Super Freak
Don be apologetic man! Everyone knows who is what! That's the best part!!!
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Thanks Pedro, and sorry to everyone that this has become way more complicated than need be. 2 sizes is as easy a fix as it could possibly be. No clue why this dude is continuing to push his agenda for any other reason than to win the argument. And I'm not even looking for an argument, I just think it's pointless if this gets done wrong twice. There's a list a 40 people here and not everyone is in agreement. 2 sizes. SO SIMPLE MAN! God!
The axe measurement isn't 100% straightforward because it measures 7½" from the peak point on the top of the head to the very tip of the handle. I'll post pics tonight that'll make sense of that if it doesn't already
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I didn't read that whole thing but something that did stand out and I agree with is the last part about the possibility that being slightly over-sized may accommodate believe posing better. That already dawned on me last night so I think that's something else we should consider. I'm going to to mess around with some poses tonight to see if that length is necessary in more dynamic poses or if it still just comes across as too long.
I'm leaning toward it's too long regardless just by looking at Ebeneezer's pic, but I'm still going to experiment to be sure. In his pose there's room to move the left hand closer to the head giving a wider grip, but there would still be an excess length at the butt. But maybe bending the arms more may change all that. I think that some of you guys should mess around too and see what you think, unless you already set him in a pose that you don't want to disturb
I'm leaning toward it's too long regardless just by looking at Ebeneezer's pic, but I'm still going to experiment to be sure. In his pose there's room to move the left hand closer to the head giving a wider grip, but there would still be an excess length at the butt. But maybe bending the arms more may change all that. I think that some of you guys should mess around too and see what you think, unless you already set him in a pose that you don't want to disturb
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