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Re: Rainmans New Project: Dr. Huckleberry

This is how you post without sounding like a spoiled brat with entitlement issues who has the assumption their particular character choices are better, smarter or more important than everyone else's.

Thanks for the kind words. Probably the only western I grew up watching was the Good, The Bad, and the Ugly and Rainman did those three already :slap . Talking about showing up late to the game.

Although I am late to collecting I feel excited, yet bummed out at HT decision to rerelease some of these figures. I am happy I can get my hands on them but what value will they have down the road?

I can tell that the serious collector will continue buying from Rainman and tailoring from Cato.
 
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Does this really matter? ..personal I feel that if your going to dish out $800 on a figure you should be buying it for your love of that particular character and that future value should be irrelevant as you should be buying it for keeps, if you think you will end up selling it later why bother buy it in the first place( Not naming names here but I'm well used to seeing this practice in the commerce section) That said whether your able to sell it off depends on if there is still someone out there who wants the figure, so far the reaction to doc has been fairly luke warm, but I think even after this sells out there will still be someone who will want it and you should be able to sell it for it's original value, but don't expect a buyer straight away I've seen pieces like these take a long time to be sold.

Why doesnt rainman stop selling, especially to VIPs who continually flip these pieces? There's one on eBay that always scalps his rainman pieces, and per him on one interaction, he said "to fund all the Batman stuff that Hot Toys will be making." Then there are other overseas guys who jump on many rainman releases, only to flip at higher prices not too far down the line. I just don't get it...

If rainman allows you the privilege to get a piece, especially early without hassling and having to race at the time of sale versus other people, don't then use his kindness so you can profit. Also, when he gives you a gift or something personal, an extra, regardless of what it is...

Don't bump it, flip it or sell it just to fund another project. That's classless and really tacky.

In the urban art scene, artist like Kozik, Olivas, Chueh, Kaws and others, who have VIPs, that are allowed to purchase, pre-purchase without others knowing, to lock down pieces, especially newer folks to scene, or that are given gifts from the artist; projects they have worked on, side tidbits that are not going to be production et., if they get caught re-selling or constantly flipping, they get banned from making other purchases.
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Fyi I deleted my post because I believe I misinterpreted Army soldiers post, but I still stand by what I said.
 
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In matters of financial distress I can understand why some might resort to selling their "collectables". These things are always changing hands anyways and while I don't agree 100% with scalpers or flippers, they are a neccessary part of the process especially when it comes to creating/pushing hype for those on the fence about making these kinds of purchases. Some individuals are connected because of the nostalgic feeling it offers, others are caught up in the hype of it all and finally some just see the potential to turn a profit. If there was a "real" art market for Rainman's work, I suspect people would be less inclined to sell these figures so fast. But more and more I realize that his work is always constantly being compared or categorized with Hottoys, which in my opinion is a real shame!
 
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In matters of financial distress I can understand why some might resort to selling their "collectables". These things are always changing hands anyways and while I don't agree 100% with scalpers or flippers, they are a neccessary part of the process especially when it comes to creating/pushing hype for those on the fence about making these kinds of purchases. Some individuals are connected because of the nostalgic feeling it offers, others are caught up in the hype of it all and finally some just see the potential to turn a profit. If there was a "real" art market for Rainman's work, I suspect people would be less inclined to sell these figures so fast. But more and more I realize that his work is always constantly being compared to Hottoys, which in my opinion is a real shame!
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Don't feel like you have to restraint or hold back your comments, when their your feelings. Regardless of who may like it or not...

No no no, I believe he was talking about hot toys and not Rainman's work which I had thought he was referring to originally, but the same does apply to any figure really but with hot toys these days I do understand why someone would be concerned with the future rarity/value of there figure with all these re-release that they are doing.
 
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I just wish some of the early collectors of Rainmans work, many of who are members of this forum would set a standard for this Man's work and finally separate the Apples from the Oranges.
 
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i'm kinda lazy, so i don't part with figures too often. i like having certain things in my collection, even though they're outdated, because they remind of the time i bought them, and all the time in between i enjoyed them. i'm a bit overly nostalgic like that.

but customs are different. i've never sold anything someone made for me as a one-off or a very limited run. however, with rainman's stuff i can sort of understand wanting to sell when you're in sudden hardship. these things are expensive and there's usually demand, so it makes for a quick and easy sale in desperate times. you can't help when bad things happen, and you have to do what you have to do.

what i personally try not to do is buy a rainman figure (or any custom) just coz it's a rainman figure. i have to want and love the character or movie. otherwise i know what will happen - i'll get bored of it, and try to sell it to fund the next big thing. then you're in an endless cycle and collecting becomes temporary holding. and you potentially stop someone else from getting something you didn't REALLY have any interest in, which would make me feel ____ty afterwards.
 
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i'm kinda lazy, so i don't part with figures too often. i like having certain things in my collection, even though they're outdated, because they remind of the time i bought them, and all the time in between i enjoyed them. i'm a bit overly nostalgic like that.

but customs are different. i've never sold anything someone made for me as a one-off or a very limited run. however, with rainman's stuff i can sort of understand wanting to sell when you're in sudden hardship. these things are expensive and there's usually demand, so it makes for a quick and easy sale in desperate times. you can't help when bad things happen, and you have to do what you have to do.

what i personally try not to do is buy a rainman figure (or any custom) just coz it's a rainman figure. i have to want and love the character or movie. otherwise i know what will happen - i'll get bored of it, and try to sell it to fund the next big thing. then you're in an endless cycle and collecting becomes temporary holding. and you potentially stop someone else from getting something you didn't REALLY have any interest in, which would make me feel ____ty afterwards.
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I think some collectors have buyers remorse. They get caught up in the excitement of the figure and how rare a piece it is. Then they part with a good chunk of money. They receive the figure and the reality of what they just spent sets in. It happens with a car purchase, auction purchases, etc.

I do agree that you should, first, buy a figure because you love the image. Being able to sell it, trade it, make a profit somewhere down the line may be secondary. It is so easy to get caught up in the hype of a new figure and then something you like more comes out and you cannot afford it. Now you decide to part with a previous figure, completely understandable. But, buying just to dilute the market and flip a figure just to make a profit seems wrong. We all know it is done and keeps those who truly want the figure from getting one at a reasonable price. Doesn't make it right though.
 
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Some good convo here this Sunday morning! Im really digging it! Wow where to begin. I agree with alot thats being said. I think Rainmans work is definitely art and should be treated as such. It sucks that some stuff gets flipped but like Turbo said its part of the game. If stuff wasn't being sold from time to time how would new collectors get a shot at a classic piece?

I just really dont get the point of buying a figure and then selling it for the next one. That practice doesn't make much sense to me. Its like living off the same $1200 to $1500 just to stay in the high end game. Why bother? To each his own but seems crazy to me. As for gifts, yes if a artist gave me a gift it would take some huge cojones to just go out there and sell it. Very poor taste imo. But like I said its just my opinion.

I'm personally not in the Rainman market to own every figure he makes. I only buy what characters I like. Nothing more nothing less.

As for my Marty situation Im not proud that I have to sell him. I really need to get up the some big cash for personal reasons and like I said Im not too attached to this piece like my others cause its still new. Do I love BTTF? Yes! Am I 100% in love this figure? To be honest. No. I think the outfit is fan-freaking-tastic as well as the accessories and paint work. It's just something isnt right with the sculpt to me. And it makes the decision to sell a little easier for me.

Can this info damage my potential for the sale? Quite possibly but its how I feel. And Im not afraid to say it.
 
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Well said Magnus. I completely agree about the buying one figure from Rainman, only to sell it for the "next ultimate, best work of Rainman's". It just doesn't make any sense AT ALL to me when I see it happen on these boards. It's like, what's the whole point of collecting at all?? To me that's not what this hobby is about.

I also agree about your point on the artist gifts. I could never do that.

And trust me, everyone here on this forum knows what kind of passion you have for these figures and this hobby and no one is putting you in that category with your current personal situation and need for quick cash. Things like this happens and I for one won't see you in any different light because of it. I'm just glad you didn't have to do this for Pee-Wee :lol
 
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I also think letting go of Marty might have been easier for you because somewhere in the back of your mind you probably feel Hot toys might eventually make him..am I right?

I think a very important thing you must consider when buying an $800 custom is what are the odds this character will be produced by an official company and distributed to the masses?

Doc holiday not alone is one of my favorite movie character but I can buy him comfortably knowing he probably won't be touched by the likes of hot toys or enterbay.
 
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i'm kinda lazy, so i don't part with figures too often. i like having certain things in my collection, even though they're outdated, because they remind of the time i bought them, and all the time in between i enjoyed them. i'm a bit overly nostalgic like that.

but customs are different. i've never sold anything someone made for me as a one-off or a very limited run. however, with rainman's stuff i can sort of understand wanting to sell when you're in sudden hardship. these things are expensive and there's usually demand, so it makes for a quick and easy sale in desperate times. you can't help when bad things happen, and you have to do what you have to do.

what i personally try not to do is buy a rainman figure (or any custom) just coz it's a rainman figure. i have to want and love the character or movie. otherwise i know what will happen - i'll get bored of it, and try to sell it to fund the next big thing. then you're in an endless cycle and collecting becomes temporary holding. and you potentially stop someone else from getting something you didn't REALLY have any interest in, which would make me feel ____ty afterwards.

Totally know what you mean and agree with you. I have a sentiment value for my collection and still own my Hasbro 12" Star Wars, even though Sideshow did them and now Hot Toys is. And it all goes back to my childhood when I owned the first G.I. Joes and Captain Action. I loved those figures and spent hours playing with them.
But I've learned sometime in the 15 years I've been in this Hobby, people collect for different reasons, and have different feeling for their figures. And to tell someone how to collect or what to do with his collection is silly. I greatly admire Rainman's work, but I can't see myself spending or affording that kind of money. I got very lucky and found four of Rainman's G,B & U unpainted head sculpt for sale on this forum and was able to build my own figures.
 
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Some good convo here this Sunday morning! Im really digging it! Wow where to begin. I agree with alot thats being said. I think Rainmans work is definitely art and should be treated as such. It sucks that some stuff gets flipped but like Turbo said its part of the game. If stuff wasn't being sold from time to time how would new collectors get a shot at a classic piece?

I just really dont get the point of buying a figure and then selling it for the next one. That practice doesn't make much sense to me. Its like living off the same $1200 to $1500 just to stay in the high end game. Why bother? To each his own but seems crazy to me. As for gifts, yes if a artist gave me a gift it would take some huge cojones to just go out there and sell it. Very poor taste imo. But like I said its just my opinion.

I'm personally not in the Rainman market to own every figure he makes. I only buy what characters I like. Nothing more nothing less.

As for my Marty situation Im not proud that I have to sell him. I really need to get up the some big cash for personal reasons and like I said Im not too attached to this piece like my others cause its still new. Do I love BTTF? Yes! Am I 100% in love this figure? To be honest. No. I think the outfit is fan-freaking-tastic as well as the accessories and paint work. It's just something isnt right with the sculpt to me. And it makes the decision to sell a little easier for me.

Can this info damage my potential for the sale? Quite possibly but its how I feel. And Im not afraid to say it.

i think your situation is different, and you shouldn't feel bad at all about selling your marty. i do however feel slightly guilty... i bought a VIP set, had some minor money troubles (and wasn't convinced by the way rainman did the head) and therefore cancelled my preorder (rainman couldn't issue the refund straight away, sent me the set by accident, and i now how to pay customs, collect it and send it back... but that's another story). i will never in future buy a rainman figure before the full final set is revealed, even if it means missing out.

so far i have the 3 GBU figs, the big lebowski and a marty clothing set coming. all movies i absolutely love. but my problem is i love way too many movies. and my interest in them doesn't really fade over time. that makes things expensive :lol

and i'm not sure of what this gift business is referring to... could someone enlighten me? did someone sell vip figure accessories?
 
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Wasn't Eric's sculpt well finished before rainmans clothing set was complete?
 
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