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[rushmore223]

Those of us who can truly appreciate the Matrix trilogy are a minority.

You make it sound like those that don't like it are unable to grasp its profundities.

 

[GasparZizou]

That's exactly what I mean. 2deep4u.

 

[rushmore223]

That's exactly what I mean. 2deep4u.

Yeah, ok.

 

[GasparZizou]

Yeah, ok.

Spoiler

concordantly

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

I liked the first Matrix movie fine, but after watching it again for the first time in years, it doesn't have rewatch value for me.

The other two? No thanks

 

[Road Blaster]

Preach brother preach!

I'd give TDKR an 8, and Matrix Reloaded a 9 though, but still some solid ratings there.

The Matrix Trilogy is so amazing. The highway sequence in Reloaded is some of the best action in any movie ever.

 

[a-dev]

I thought Reloaded and Revolutions were pretty good sci-fi actioners, some ridiculous dialogue notwithstanding.

 

[RIDDICK]

I thought Reloaded and Revolutions were pretty good sci-fi actioners.

As much sci-fi as the Star Wars.

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

The second one was ****ing stupid, sorry.

The third one did nothing for me.

 

[rushmore223]

I hated the first two, never made it to the third one.

 

[GasparZizou]

God damn, I'll have to marathon the trilogy soon.

As much sci-fi as the Star Wars.

Matrix is more sci-fi than Star Wars will ever be.

 

[rushmore223]

God damn, I'll have to marathon the trilogy soon.





Matrix is more sci-fi than Star Wars will ever be.

Star Wars is Fantasy, if Matrix isn't sci-fi, then I don't know what it is.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Those of us who can truly appreciate the Matrix trilogy are a minority.

They're pretty good. My favorite is still the first one, but I really like part 2 even though it was completely different from what I was expecting. It's too bad NECA or some other company doesn't have the license to make figures from the trilogy.

 

[GasparZizou]

Star Wars is Fantasy, if Matrix isn't sci-fi, then I don't know what it is.

But, that's what I'm saying.

They're pretty good. My favorite is still the first one, but I really like part 2 even though it was completely different from what I was expecting. It's too bad NECA or some other company doesn't have the license to make figures from the trilogy.

I hear that a lot, "it didn't go were I was expecting", where could it have possibly gone? if you understood the story from the beginning, the development of the trilogy was pretty telegraphed.

Yeah, I've always wanted a Revolutions Neo, so ****ing snazzy.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I hear that a lot, "it didn't go were I was expecting", where could it have possibly gone? if you understood the story from the beginning, the development of the trilogy was pretty telegraphed.

Yeah, I've always wanted a Revolutions Neo, so ****ing snazzy.

Those heels tho That's a Reloaded Neo.

What I mean is, by the end of the first film, Neo is Superman and he tells the Matrix that he's going to wake people up and change everything because he's the "one," but then in part 2, the new agents are stronger, Smith is back for no reason...even he couldn't explain it, and we find out that Neo is not the first "one," just the latest "one" And eventually, the trilogy is about Neo fighting Smith...which is not what we're led to believe at the end of the first Matrix. So instead of being about Neo vs the Matrix and defeating it, it becomes about Neo vs Smith again, making a deal with the Matrix to save it, and things pretty much stay the same. I still like the films for what they are, but my expectations were higher....and that's my fault.

 

[GasparZizou]

Those heels tho That's a Reloaded Neo.

Isn't it the same suit he uses in his final fight with Smith?

What I mean is, by the end of the first film, Neo is Superman and he tells the Matrix that he's going to wake people up and change everything because he's the "one,"

And he ultimately does that, despite we later know the true cycle of the one.

but then in part 2, the new agents are stronger, Smith is back for no reason...even he couldn't explain it,

Because Smith was also an anomaly.

and we find out that Neo is not the first "one," just the latest "one" And eventually, the trilogy is about Neo fighting Smith...

But that's not really all about it, it was ultimately about the salvation of mankind, Neo vs Smith was only the vehicle for that.

Which is not what we're led to believe at the end of the first Matrix. So instead of being about Neo vs the Matrix and defeating it, it becomes about Neo vs Smith again, making a deal with the Matrix to save it, and things pretty much stay the same. I still like the films for what they are, but my expectations were higher....and that's my fault.

They don't stay the same at all, and it was never about Neo vs the Matrix, Neo was a cyclical anomaly that always ended in the decimation of mankind, rebuild Zion, and do it all again, over and over, you are right about the fact that you're led to believe that, but that is before you know the full story.

In the trilogy Neo succeed in making a deal with the machines, save mankind so they can continue to progress, giving the first steps to getting out of the ****hole, the cycle was broken.

Hell, if you're familiar with the "extended stuff", you know the machines aren't the bad guys, humans are (or were)

So I wouldn't say expectations for this were too high, I'd say they were misplaced altogether, and I'm pretty sure most people just didn't get it, not that is ocean deep or anything.

 

[Road Blaster]

V for Vendetta - 9/10

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Isn't it the same suit he uses in his final fight with Smith?

Yeah, but I guess since he wore that outfit for the first time in Reloaded, I see it as a Reloaded costume. When I think of Neo in part 3, I think of the blind Neo wearing the Zion clothes.

And he ultimately does that, despite we later know the true cycle of the one.

Kind of...but he didn't do it by defeating the Matrix, right? The Matrix still exists and they are using people...or growing them...right?

Because Smith was also an anomaly.

That is true...he wanted to get out in the first film, but I didn't buy it when Smith was like, "I don't fully understand how it happened, perhaps some part of you imprinted onto me, something overwritten or copied. It is at this point, irrelevant. What matter is that whatever happened, happened for a reason." I was like, that's the best explanation for him coming back?

But that's not really all about it, it was ultimately about the salvation of mankind, Neo vs Smith was only the vehicle for that.

Yeah, I get that, but perhaps I was expecting a different vehicle and a different outcome. I think most people felt that way.

They don't stay the same at all, and it was never about Neo vs the Matrix, Neo was a cyclical anomaly that always ended in the decimation of mankind, rebuild Zion, and do it all again, over and over, you are right about the fact that you're led to believe that, but that is before you know the full story.

In the trilogy Neo succeed in making a deal with the machines, save mankind so they can continue to progress, giving the first steps to getting out of the ****hole, the cycle was broken.

Hell, if you're familiar with the "extended stuff", you know the machines aren't the bad guys, humans are (or were)

So I wouldn't say expectations for this were too high, I'd say they were misplaced altogether, and I'm pretty sure most people just didn't get it, not that is ocean deep or anything.

Misplaced is a good way of looking at it, but like you said, we don't get the full story in the first film, but we don't know that at the time, so when all these other elements are added to the story, it just wasn't what I initially thought it was going to be, and that's not the film's fault.

Does the deal involve the machines not using humans? Because if the machines are still using the humans and the Matrix still exists, then I don't see how Neo changed anything, other than the peace treaty which means that the Machines won't bother the humans...which is ok, but the machines still rule and people are still asleep, right? And isn't that what Morpheus and Neo wanted to change, initially?

 

[GasparZizou]

Kind of...but he didn't do it by defeating the Matrix, right? The Matrix still exists and they are using people...or growing them...right?

Not kind of, he does change everything, Zion was supposed to be destroyed and the cycle was supposed to start from scratch all over again.

Zion was saved, they can keep freeing people, mankind has a chance now, the Matrix is still using people as batteries because that's how they survive, and it was all because of humans to begin with.

Yeah, I get that, but perhaps I was expecting a different vehicle.

Like what?

Misplaced is a good way of looking at it, but like you said, we don't get the full story in the first film, but we don't know that at the time, so when all these other elements are added to the story, it just wasn't what I initially thought it was going to be. Does the deal involve the machines not using humans? Because if the machines are still using the humans and the Matrix still exists, then I don't see how Neo changed anything, other than the peace treaty which means that the Machines won't bother the humans...which is ok, but the machines still rule and people are still asleep, right? And isn't that what Morpheus and Neo wanted to change, initially?

No, the deal just involves not destroying Zion. The machines need humans to survive.

You really don't see it? The machines will let Zion alone, humanity can start aiming for restoring itself the way it was before they ****ed everything up and the machines took over, the machines were always willing to coexist with mankind.

Yes, that's what Morpheus wanted, and they can eventually get there, and the machines don't quite "rule", they just survive.

Were you expecting that everyone in the Matrix was disconnected and the evil machines were destroyed? That's just lame Humans had it coming, and the machines are being nice by letting humans get their **** together little by little, which is a chance the machines didn't get from the humans.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Not kind of, he does change everything, Zion was supposed to be destroyed and the cycle was supposed to start from scratch all over again.

Zion was saved, they can keep freeing people, mankind has a chance now, the Matrix is still using people as batteries because that's how they survive, and it was all because of humans to begin with.

How can they do that...freeing people? If the machines still need humans and the humans still want to free people...doesn't that create a problem all over again? If i need something to exist, and you and your friends are going to keep trying to take it away from me, we're going to have a problem eventually, so doesn't that just continue the cycle of humans vs machines?

Like what?

Something not involving Smith and the deal. I know you think that fighting the evil machines and freeing all humans is lame, and it's predictable and obvious, but that's what Neo and Morpheus promised me.

No, the deal just involves not destroying Zion. The machines need humans to survive.

You really don't see it? The machines will let Zion alone, humanity can start aiming for restoring itself the way it was before they ****ed everything up and the machines took over, the machines were always willing to coexist with mankind.

I really don't see how the machines just want to coexist. To me, they were no different than Skynet, but even if they want to coexist, how is that going to happen when the humans are trying to wake more people? There's a conflict of interest.

Yes, that's what Morpheus wanted, and they can eventually get there, and the machines don't quite "rule", they just survive.

Were you expecting that everyone in the Matrix was disconnected and the evil machines were destroyed? That's just lame Humans had it coming, and the machines are being nice by letting humans get their **** together little by little, which is a chance the machines didn't get from the humans.

Traitor!!! *cries while saying it like Kylo Ren*


Seriously, the machines are scary as **** The only reason they didn't kill Neo was because they needed him...and look how angry they got when Neo said that they needed him. They are bad...and scary. Human will get killed once they start ****** with the machine's food.