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There's a lot of very subtle and very interesting subtext, the director clearly has a very stylish touch, I liked that a lot about him, great skill and pleasing cinematography, not to mention, yeah it's fun.

But ultimately his whole Cultural Appropriation: the movie; "we so cool they want to be us" and other related commentary... It's eye rolling, even as witty as he executed it.

I think I was very harsh the first time I rated it, but I don't know how to feel about a very stylish 2 hour whining exercise.

I think a lot of people missed the real point of the movie (not saying any of you did) which seemed to be the fear of losing one's identity. I suppose black people may feel disconnected from much of their heritage and culture the more they integrate into white society.

I really enjoyed the movie, best "horror" movie in a long time.
 
Yeah, he'd be fine. However, I've decided...not now,
If you had such power to decide why didn't you stop Shell of Ghost in the Shell?!?!??? :gah:

but recently, that Manga or Anime, should not be made into live action movies. The anime already did it, so there's no point in doing a live action Akira, DBZ or any Anime. I'm probably wrong, but I think it's a cultural or western obsession to make live action movies or series....not that the Japanese don't do it, but Anime in Japan is taken more seriously, and adults watch it. However, animation on this side of the world is usually seen as material for young adults or children, so no matter how good an animated film or series might be, or a comic, there seems to be this obsession to make a version with actual humans...because...cartoons are for kids. What other reason can there be when you look at the history of animation in Japan and the US? :dunno The other reason I guess might be curiosity, to see how a live action movie compares to the animation.
Dude, I've been saying this for centuries!

Btw, anime and geeks and Japan are as about as frowned upon as they are here, maybe more.

I think a lot of people missed the real point of the movie (not saying any of you did) which seemed to be the fear of losing one's identity. I suppose black people may feel disconnected from much of their heritage and culture the more they integrate into white society.

I really enjoyed the movie, best "horror" movie in a long time.
It's literally the opposite :lol The point is that whites are bleeding them for their culture while they sit in the sunken place of society, where no matter how loud they scream, nobody can hear them.

It's not so much that they're losing their identity/homogenizing, because the white man wants them for their very identity.

There may be a couple comments about suburban black men wanting to be white, but it's certainly not the main point.
 
It's literally the opposite :lol The point is that whites are bleeding them for their culture while they sit in the sunken place of society, where no matter how loud they scream, nobody can hear them.

It's not so much that they're losing their identity/homogenizing, because the white man wants them for their very identity.

There may be a couple comments about suburban black men wanting to be white, but it's certainly not the main point.

I saw it differently, but hey, that's what makes talking about cinema fun.
 
I saw it differently, but hey, that's what makes talking about cinema fun.
I'm assuming you would rate it higher than the VVitch? I think that's fair.

I've decided it's retarded to rate it as low as I did just because I disagreed with the message, but I'd still put the VVitch above this myself.
 
Spider-Man: 7.5/10

This would be higher 5 years ago when I last watched it, but man has it aged. Not in a good Batman '89 way either; over-acting, sloppy cinematography, cheesy (over the top) love story etc. The montage where he's drawing his suit is laugh out loud cringeworthy. Flashes of MJ smiling and all. :lol

Maybe it's my high off Homecoming, but that flick is so much better.

Raimi's signature cheese is really showing it's age.
 
Sometimes it's not a 'message', just an exploration of a theme :dunno
It's both, but there's no denying there's a clear message in there.

The director himself talked about it.

No, The VVitch was pretty much perfect, it's close to a 10 for me.
I think it's a 10 for me.

Now I would rate Get Out between 9 and 8.5 from my previous 7, I think I gave it.
 
It's both, but there's no denying there's a clear message in there.

The director himself talked about it.


I think it's a 10 for me.

Now I would rate Get Out between 9 and 8.5 from my previous 7, I think I gave it.

I'll look that up now that I've seen it, but I'm glad I didn't read too much into it at the time. I just went along for the ride :)
 
Now I would rate Get Out between 9 and 8.5 from my previous 7, I think I gave it.

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Courtesy of my blog 'Bound to the Sound'... Here is my Spoiler-free review of 'War for the Planet of the Apes'

Behind only 'Guardians Of The Galaxy: Vol 2', 'War of the Planet of the Apes' (from hereon referred to as 'War') is my second most anticipated movie of 2017. Both 'Rise' and 'Dawn' cemented this Apes series as one hell of a movie franchise reboot... and it was up to 'War' to complete the trilogy and make it a true masterpiece of modern cinema... so did it?

Not quite.

'War' didn't sit right with me. Sure, it does a lot of good things, but if felt disjointed from the first two films that came before it. The biggest sin was the fact that I desperately love these ape characters, but their plight left little in the way for me to care as much as I really wanted to... I genuinely felt disconnected from the emotional element that the film shamelessly shoves down your throat. War is a misleading title too... this is by far a more personal conflict for Caesar than what the film's grandiose title suggests... even to the point where unbelievably, the plot swerves away from the Apes as the main focal point in the supposed "War"...
Now to the positives. Andy Serkis deserves something in the way of an innovation award for making a CGI character as compelling and now iconic as his Caesar. He's an absolute master at this art form and he definitely doesn't disappoint in this movie, Caesar is still one of the greatest Sci-fi characters ever created. The supporting cast are all great too, Woody Harrelson is superb with a wasted character... series newcomer Steve Zahn is also amazing as new character Bad Ape (trust me, you will love him!) and as with the first two films, the CGI is just mind bogglingly good...
The symbolism (there's actually quite a bit of religious undertones throughout) and film references ('Apocalypse Now', 'Lord of the Rings') are rife, and border on over-the-top at times. The action is scarce too, I'd categorise this more a drama then an all out action-adventure film... and the ending left me quite underwhelmed and a little perplexed... but to say why would ruin the promise of a spoiler-free review, so we move on.

The runtime is bloated (140 minutes? Really?), the dialogue at times is obvious (surprising for a series that has relied on subtle, clever storytelling techniques so as not to hand feed the audience with obvious information) and some characters are wasted (literally!) just to serve a plot point... the conflicts that are being built throughout the film never pay off, I miraculously felt short changed on a lot of things about this film, especially after the build up of the superb previous two films... In particular the climactic, epic chaos of 'Dawn of the Planet of the Apes'...

I was just bitterly disappointed with this film... again, it wasn't awful, but my expectations were perhaps so unfairly high that what I saw failed to get anywhere near those lofty heights. To be truthful, I'm soooooo disappointed that I was disappointed... I'm more pissed off to the fact that I did't like it more... I had a thought after the film that if this was the launch of a new franchise, it wouldn't cut it for me. The fact it's an Apes film I have given it a considerable amount of slack, whether righly or wrongly, I just thought... what is the whole point of it all?
 
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