READ FIRST POST! [iminime] Wall Street Killer - Patrick Bateman

[Raymond F.]

Re: NOW SHIPPING! [iminime] Wall Street Killer - Patrick Bateman

With the arguments put forth especially in mightyq's last post, I fully reiterate and support that if there is any option to getting the parts at all it should be an "upgrade" to the DX set as opposed to just buying the parts separately.

Once again this is a testimate to how far iminime has come. It's safe to say that I didn't get the DX originally because of the price tag and that I anticipated the release to be a good base for a figure that would undoubtably need upgrades as all iminime figures do, and that would incur costs. I never expected a near Rainman quality figure right out of the box. Had I known that this would be as good as it was I wouldn't have opted out of the DX in the first place.

Keep in mind I went all out with Hannibal and ended up being very very disappointed with that release, the price was not far apart. I expected this to be the same and I didn't want to make that mistake twice. I was almost shocked when it wasnt.

 

[axecutioner18]

Re: NOW SHIPPING! [iminime] Wall Street Killer - Patrick Bateman

[EDIT] (my comment was for mightyq's idea but Ray's post came in the middle by the time I posted.)

You really think your idea with actually stick with someone like Rainman? I can guarantee you no one would even broach an Idea like this to Rainman no matter how close they are to him.

Rainman would NEVER implement an idea like this. A traditional phenomenon concerning limited collectibles for ages was about the crazy after market price. Today your shock at after market price makes you think the way you think now. But again see its being dictated by buyers remorse. You are thinking there will be some control over after market price by letting runs go on? Then why not keep runs on for every year after 13/14 more people sign up?

Then the whole model of the collectible custom industry has to be changed. The fact that these items cost the amount they has a lot to do with their limited tag let alone the materials and effort.

Again another issue is I see these suggestions crop up ONLY because its Denny we are talking about, stuff like this will never come up on a Rainman thread.

All the preorders were open since months. The DX took some time to sell out completely, and the boost was that some were made for retail under OSB and ToyHQ - so there was a sizable no of DX sets. Maybe Rainman makes lesser no of sets so I can understand the whole rush for Rainman, but this one I cannot see how you missed out unless you had no idea about the release.

Bottomline is buyer's remorse shouldnt dictate what happens - nor an attempt to control secondary market prices, those guys who didnt not get the DX was not because they couldnt preorder it. They didnt order because you didnt think it was worth it or believe in it.
Think of those who got the DX as a reward to them for their faith.

And since it was brought up: Rainman selling painted heads is a different issue, and a wrong example, you dont see him sell DX exclusive items later do you?

With ideas like these we should just get rid of the whole certificate business and not worry about preorders at all. Just place an order and have a figure made for you like a KFC meal. Tell me how many of you Rainman buyers would like the fact if all his figures never came with any certificate and you could just put whatever you wanted in an a la carte type order? What would be the point of the so called 'Rainman paint' on full sets and other paint on H&C sets?

Again I stress on the fact that there are some lines we shouldnt cross in our mad want to get something that would open a whole new issue about the way these figures have been made and marketed for years.

Even Hot Toys doesnt come up with these ideas! Imagine people paying extra to get their original release joker upgraded to a DX. But a v2 and later v3 of this I wouldnt mind...

Again my point is not to keep figures away from people. But if boundaries and limites were placed orginally we should respect them. I would be in favour of these ideas if this was an open run of figures made to order. Similarly what happened with Demon. Sets were increased (although a lot of people didnt pay up in the end inspite of 3 exclusive days for them to order) because people wanted to - but in the making of process. Once you have laid down the rules and methods, I believe it is a fair game and people should respect and stick to it.

Future releases can do away with the limit bit and have a more open run if you guys want to petition to Denny.

Axe, you misunderstood what I was saying. My car reference was to point out what is considered limited. In the 1/24 car world vs. the 1/6 figure world. I was only using this as as a comparison and was in no way suggesting that it should or shouldn't be allowable to change your mind, upgrade after the fact, etc.

Actually maybe I didnt get the crux of your comment because I was focusing on seeing what parallels could be drawn between the specific example you stated and the situation in question. Thank you for your clarification I will take greater care next time to see your point and my apologies.

 

[axecutioner18]

Re: NOW SHIPPING! [iminime] Wall Street Killer - Patrick Bateman

Anyway dont want be 'the Grinch' on the thread
Enough bickering from me so here are some pics of my set!

the Nexus 4 camera isnt that great so apologise for the grainy pics

 

[greatlakes6]

Re: NOW SHIPPING! [iminime] Wall Street Killer - Patrick Bateman

Axe,

You are clouding two thoughts here. You seem to be placing a perceived value based on the number produced. What I hear you saying is that you would like the numbers kept down so that the value is higher. Believe me, I understand having a deadline to purchase an item. How much time to make the purchase is enough? A month, two, three, where does it end. I get it. But your rationale is making it sound like the figure won't be worth as much if too many people have what is supposed to be a limited figure. Is the value really less if 100 are produced instead of 65? Again, it's the perception of the value, not to the owner/seller, but to the buyer. Are we talking keep the numbers low so that there aren't many who have one, creating a secondary market based on supply? Are we looking to help others achieve an item they want?

You mentioned having any opportunity to buy the DX and buyers remorse. You really shouldn't lump everyone's circumstances into the same pile. Here is why I purchased the regular version. I intended to purchase the DX. I accidentally clicked the wrong link and purchased the regular. I didn't realize it at the time and when I noticed my error, it was too late. Are my circumstances the same?

Not trying to start an argument with you, just stating my opinion.

 

[axecutioner18]

Re: NOW SHIPPING! [iminime] Wall Street Killer - Patrick Bateman

Axe,

You are clouding two thoughts here. You seem to be placing a perceived value based on the number produced. What I hear you saying is that you would like the numbers kept down so that the value is higher. Believe me, I understand having a deadline to purchase an item. How much time to make the purchase is enough? A month, two, three, where does it end. I get it. But your rationale is making it sound like the figure won't be worth as much if too many people have what is supposed to be a limited figure. Is the value really less if 100 are produced instead of 65? Again, it's the perception of the value, not to the owner/seller, but to the buyer. Are we talking keep the numbers low so that there aren't many who have one, creating a secondary market based on supply? Are we looking to help others achieve an item they want?

You mentioned having any opportunity to buy the DX and buyers remorse. You really shouldn't lump everyone's circumstances into the same pile. Here is why I purchased the regular version. I intended to purchase the DX. I accidentally clicked the wrong link and purchased the regular. I didn't realize it at the time and when I noticed my error, it was too late. Are my circumstances the same?

Not trying to start an argument with you, just stating my opinion.

You completely misunderstood my point so let me reiterate them again. I have no intention of raising value or anything at all. Im saying what is done is done. People made their choices. Everything was separated and like most limited custom releases the rules were the same. Now suddenly with inhand pics some people want to start changing/upgrading adding to a number which was specified fixed and done. My point is why cant people stick to what they did all these years when they missed out - look if one came up on sale and bought it and sold theirs. Why try to suddenly just pay a balance and upgrade? Because this idea never comes up before on a guy like Rainman's figures. No body would even imagine bringing this up to him!

My point is why should Denny have to face requests which people never make because of an ethical barrier to other artists? Why should this release be treated any different? Is it because its an Iminime figure and not Rainman?

I myself dont sell any of my figures because I value them. and customs for me are once in a blue moon beacuse its more than 3/4 months of saving for me to buy a HT let alone Customs. Contrary to popular belief I do not get Iminime figures free. I paid full price for this release just like any of you. So secondary market and percieved values mean squat to me.

 

[greatlakes6]

Re: NOW SHIPPING! [iminime] Wall Street Killer - Patrick Bateman

I want to make sure I understand. So, if Rainman doesn't accommodate after the fact, then Iminime shouldn't either. This is the exact reason that automotive companies offer aftermarket products so that you can make an exact replica of a Shelby Cobra, for example.

Don't get me wrong, I understand what you are saying, but I don't completely agree with you. You may not give a squat about secondary market or perceived value, but that is how you make it sound. And if you truly don't care about those things, then why come down on others who don't share your feelings. It really shouldn't bother you one way or the other.

On another note, I really like the photo's you just posted. Very nice!

 

[mightyq]

Re: NOW SHIPPING! [iminime] Wall Street Killer - Patrick Bateman

ax buddy, relax my friend. it was an idea. whats wrong with that.. there is no need to defend denny with the whole if it were rainman stuff, so happens this is taking place in an iminime thread about their figure. there is zero, ill will or disrespect towards denny and his staff. i know your his go to guy, and thats great. please dont make something out of nothing. you seem to hold rainman in the highest regard wich is great, many people do including myself, but to think people would be scared to bring this up to him is silly. ax like ray has said these are grown up's dolls.. nothing more. not to disect your entire synopsis of my post. but i dont think adding a limited amount of dx sets after market is a big deal at all. i never said open the flood gates. 5 maybe 10 tops. that would hardly distort the numbers and water down the release. honestly i doubt you would get that many, somewhere between 5-10 probably would do. saying buyers have remorse after seeing what they missed is your opinion, and i respect it. you are probably also very right that this happens and would happen. for example i passed on the dx rainman plainview, after it came out and people were going to do an oily version you betcha i had remorse. yes it was my fault for not seeing the potential before hand. bottom line is i will never own an oily because of this. would i have upgraded and paid more than the original dx customer, yes i would have, but thats me and i know i cant speak for anyone else but me, thats what i have done here. you seem to view all of this extremely more serious than i. my lame idea was to just maybe get somebody a dx set after the fact, regardless if they do have remorse or whatever. your against any idea of after market sets i get it, cool. i am sure your very much not alone. thats what makes disscussions like this good, your able to see many sides of the views people have. also just to say, i pre-order all of my iminime figures most always without seeing the final product and pay in full way in advance, if thats not respect and faith in denny and his team i dont know what is.

thanks for responding ax, always good to hear the other side, as long as these disscussions stay spirited and respectful it should make for a good read.

 

[axecutioner18]

Re: NOW SHIPPING! [iminime] Wall Street Killer - Patrick Bateman

See I understand what you said but please don't think I'm coming down heavily or being spirited and defensive. Its difficult to portray ones demeanour perfectly in writing as it is for me. So if my words come across as too forceful please understand its not meant as so. Its more like I am a very opinionated person and I like to get my point across. Im saying if we consider for 3/4/5 people only why not everyone? Like I said crossing some lines can complicate more.

Example remember the Blondie DX for VIP fiasco? Why should normal set owners who were not VIPs and couldn't get in on the DX because of the way it sold out be allowed to upgrade to DX if they can pay? My question is after you cross one line where can you draw the next one? And at what justification?

I'm glad this very issue is being discussed with the basic issue only in mind and with everyone showing their maturity and genuine desire to only get their view across and not take it to petty personal jibes

 

[shells075]

Re: NOW SHIPPING! [iminime] Wall Street Killer - Patrick Bateman

Nice pics axe. Yeah these boards can sometimes get bogged down with endless debates about what the fig should of come with etc. Yeah the fig is nice, not worth nearly what I paid but it is a very limited edition, not that I brought it for that fact.

 

[Bullet]

Re: NOW SHIPPING! [iminime] Wall Street Killer - Patrick Bateman

Nice pics axe. Yeah these boards can sometimes get bogged down with endless debates about what the fig should of come with etc. Yeah the fig is nice, not worth nearly what I paid but it is a very limited edition, not that I brought it for that fact.

You don't think your Bateman is worth what you've paid for it or am I reading this wrong?

 

[shells075]

Re: NOW SHIPPING! [iminime] Wall Street Killer - Patrick Bateman

You don't think your Bateman is worth what you've paid for it or am I reading this wrong?

Lol I kind of contradicted myself there. IDK what I mean. I need a lie down.

 

[DarthMagnus]

Re: NOW SHIPPING! [iminime] Wall Street Killer - Patrick Bateman

I know it sucks but Axe is right. This was up for sale for along time. You all had the chance to buy the version you wanted. If you didn't get the DX you either A: didn't have the money or B:didn't have faith in the project. Plain and simple. If we start upgrading sets where does it end?

Off topic. I love his figure. A pure home run! Easily iminime's best offering by far. So much attention and detail went into this peice and it shows with flying colors. I never intended to have two Batemans but I cant see wasting either look. They both have to be done!

I'm working with the overcoat look at the moment cause he just looks so damn sinister in it. Saving the Raincoat for the screaming head when I get the rest of the necessary pieces.

A few quick shots! Thanks to everyone that contributed and made this a real figure to cherish!

 

[paramoremcr88]

Re: NOW SHIPPING! [iminime] Wall Street Killer - Patrick Bateman

Nice pics, I just gave mine some black gloves too.

 

[shells075]

Re: NOW SHIPPING! [iminime] Wall Street Killer - Patrick Bateman

Anyone got any links for where I can get a nail gun and chainsaw for my Psycho. Thanks

 

[paramoremcr88]

Re: NOW SHIPPING! [iminime] Wall Street Killer - Patrick Bateman

Anyone got any links for where I can get a nail gun and chainsaw for my Psycho. Thanks

I got mine here

https://www.collectablekitbash.co.uk/21st-Century-Toys-Chainsaw-p/21ctuf-01.htm

 

[shells075]

Re: NOW SHIPPING! [iminime] Wall Street Killer - Patrick Bateman

I got mine here

https://www.collectablekitbash.co.uk/21st-Century-Toys-Chainsaw-p/21ctuf-01.htm

Thanks buddy.

 

[Levit05]

Re: NOW SHIPPING! [iminime] Wall Street Killer - Patrick Bateman

ok...guys...a little help here...i am a member of Iminime.net...but i can't seem to find the link for the wallstreet killer....i want to pick up the regular set right now...can someone with expertise on how to navigate through their website help me out by posting a ling here...i really am about to get this again because its that goo....thanks in advance folk...

 

[axecutioner18]

Re: NOW SHIPPING! [iminime] Wall Street Killer - Patrick Bateman

ok...guys...a little help here...i am a member of Iminime.net...but i can't seem to find the link for the wallstreet killer....i want to pick up the regular set right now...can someone with expertise on how to navigate through their website help me out by posting a ling here...i really am about to get this again because its that goo....thanks in advance folk...

You should always check the first post of my threads for these things.

 

[Levit05]

Re: NOW SHIPPING! [iminime] Wall Street Killer - Patrick Bateman

LMAO....i hate you Ax...thanks...just ordered...

 

[breakersrevenge]

Re: NOW SHIPPING! [iminime] Wall Street Killer - Patrick Bateman

Yea man from one sixth bruce here in the UK cost me £360 delivered. Fig would have cost me close to £400 direct from Iminime how does that work?

I know that but how come they can charge me less than Denny?

A lot has to do with shipping and exchange rates at the time.