Resident Evil 6

[DarthBakura]

Well, to be fair lately re3 only has re 5 & ORC to compete with.

Id pit , 0, re1/remake, 2, code veronica, 4 and the chronicles games over it. Ive never played the outbreak games. Re3 just feels like a side-game. its so short, and easy. The only time its hard is when you make it hard for yourself and decide to fight Nemesis every time. And the duration of the game is about 1/3 of what it should be.

And the game is pretty pointless to start with given Re2 already covered the goings on at the time 1000x better than re 3 did. "re3" feels like it should of been an unlock mode after you complete re 2 or something. The only thing it adds to the re story is that a nuke took out the city. Which could of been added at the start of a new game with 20 seconds of explanation.

Resident Evil 3 added quite a lot to the story, in my opinion. Many things were uncovered and learned along the way that we take for granted now. Plus, it gave us Jill again, and that's always awesome. Personally, I think that was her best role yet. In fact, I would go so far as to say that Jill, the one we were presented with in RE3, is likely my favorite video game female in all of creation.

Its really odd they only do it during the Leon campaign though :-/

Though id love for the ability to be present during the actual game release. Though i dont think it will be

That's because Leon and Helena's scenario is the more old school of the three and perhaps they want to give off the impression that there will be times when we should pace ourselves, instead of rushing through the entire game? Granted, once the reigns are handed over people will play the way they want.

Neither RE3 or 4 feel like a sidegame.

Quoted for truth!

Out of all the RE games I own, RE0, REmake, RE2, RE3, RE:CV, RE4, RE5, RE:Outbreak, and RE:ORC, only the latter two are "side games," in my eyes. Each of the canonical titles adds more to the overall story, sometimes branching off into interesting territory and story arcs, but ultimately all of the games offer up compelling scenarios and gameplay, with only RE5 dropping the ball somewhat. I consider all of them part of a whole, just as I do Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood and Revelations, in respect to the Assassin's Creed franchise.

 

[Brandoloneous]

Resident Evil 3 added quite a lot to the story, in my opinion. Many things were uncovered and learned along the way that we take for granted now. Plus, it gave us Jill again, and that's always awesome. Personally, I think that was her best role yet. In fact, I would go so far as to say that Jill, the one we were presented with in RE3, is likely my favorite video game female in all of creation.


That's because Leon and Helena's scenario is the more old school of the three and perhaps they want to give off the impression that there will be times when we should pace ourselves, instead of rushing through the entire game? Granted, once the reigns are handed over people will play the way they want.


Quoted for truth!

Out of all the RE games I own, RE0, REmake, RE2, RE3, RE:CV, RE4, RE5, RE:Outbreak, and RE:ORC, only the latter two are "side games," in my eyes. Each of the canonical titles adds more to the overall story, sometimes branching off into interesting territory and story arcs, but ultimately all of the games offer up compelling scenarios and gameplay, with only RE5 dropping the ball somewhat. I consider all of them part of a whole, just as I do Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood and Revelations, in respect to the Assassin's Creed franchise.

Resident Evil 3 was even called "Resident Evil 1.9" by its own devs as Code Veronica was the planned RE3. RE4 was almost Devil May Cry before they scrapped it some 5 times and we finally got what we got. Sure, both RE3 and RE4 had some important plot elements, but for the most part both were side stories.

 

[DarthBakura]

Resident Evil 3 was even called "Resident Evil 1.9" by its own devs as Code Veronica was the planned RE3. RE4 was almost Devil May Cry before they scrapped it some 5 times and we finally got what we got. Sure, both RE3 and RE4 had some important plot elements, but for the most part both were side stories.

Yeah, I'm aware of all that, but frankly, I don't care.

Resident Evil 3 had Jill, The Nemesis, fun gameplay and the UBCS. Resident Evil 4 had a Leon I actually liked, with interesting gameplay. And if you want to get technical... all of the games, and I mean all of them, save for the first... are side stories, in a way. If all of the games were simply a regurgitation of "fight zombies, fight Tyrant, kill Wesker; fight zombies, fight Tyrant, kill Wesker again; fight zombies, fight Tyrant, kill Wesker yet again," but all took place at later dates and different locales, then... well, you get the picture.

 

[Brandoloneous]

Yeah, I'm aware of all that, but frankly, I don't care.

Resident Evil 3 had Jill, The Nemesis, fun gameplay and the UBCS. Resident Evil 4 had a Leon I actually liked, with interesting gameplay. And if you want to get technical... all of the games, and I mean all of them, save for the first... are side stories, in a way. If all of the games were simply a regurgitation of "fight zombies, fight Tyrant, kill Wesker; fight zombies, fight Tyrant, kill Wesker again; fight zombies, fight Tyrant, kill Wesker yet again," but all took place at later dates and different locales, then... well, you get the picture.

RE0: Showed origin of T-Virus, one of the co-founders of Umbrella, early years of Wesker and Birkin, "person" responsible for infecting Spencer Mansion

RE1: Obviously started it all

RE2: Expanded the RE universe upon the first greatly, added new mainstay characters and monsters, Raccoon City

RE3: What happened to Jill, Nuke

RECV: End of Claire's arc, Wesker's return, rival companies revealed, another lineage of Umbrella revealed and their plan to take over the world.

RE4: End of Umbrella in 5 seconds, Plagas, Wesker and Ada's motives

RE5: End of Chris/Jill and Wesker feud, origins of T-virus and progenitor, revealed Spencer and his motives finally as original founder of Umbrella, implies another Wesker child is out there

All games expand the universe, RE3 and RE4 were "events" within the universe, with RE3 more so since RE4 introduced a lot of new things. Talking story of course, not the awesome game play! That is a thing of its own.

 

[DarthBakura]

Jill and the Nuke, lol. That sounds like a fairy tale. xD

But yeah, that's a gross under-exaggeration of the content in RE3. Shame, shame. The story is about Jill's survival, a major character in the franchise, and the Nemesis plays a big role in the story as well. Plus, the UBCS, both their fight for survival and in-company corruption, and the Wesker reports add even more backstory to the RE2/RE3 time frame.

It's a complete game with relevant events, as far as I'm concerned. And it's not the same "go stop evil scientist/mad man" crap that's in half, in not all, of the other games.

 

[Brandoloneous]

Jill and the Nuke, lol. That sounds like a fairy tale. xD

But yeah, that's a gross under-exaggeration of the content in RE3. Shame, shame. The story is about Jill's survival, a major character in the franchise, and the Nemesis plays a big role in the story as well. Plus, the UBCS, both their fight for survival and in-company corruption, and the Wesker reports add even more backstory to the RE2/RE3 time frame.

It's a complete game with relevant events, as far as I'm concerned. And it's not the same "go stop evil scientist/mad man" crap that's in half, in not all, of the other games.

Breaking the mold doesn't equate to relevancy in terms of plot. RE3 still had a "traitor," a big explosion, and male/female duo we've come to expect at that point in the franchise, and in some cases even now (but thanks Piers for breaking THAT mold!). RE0, RE1, RE2, and RE3 were about survival and escape. RECV was as well, but more so Chris saving his beloved and troublesome sister Claire. So far, it's the newer games, RE4, RE5, and RE6 that are about stopping a madman.

Jill wasn't a major character at that point, just a returning one. Going by that logic, Barry could've been considered a major character at that point if we didn't know how things would turn out now for him (which we didn't). Though, WITH what we know now, I will agree that RE3 established Jill as a major character onward just as CV did Chris and Wesker. The UBCS shed some light on the corruption of Umbrella, but it wasn't something we didn't already know and the UBCS were never used again besides Outbreak.

Even Wesker's Report focused solely on RE2 in the Raccoon City portion and only mentioned two things out of RE3, Nemesis pursuing STARS and Jill escaping the nuke. Because in terms of plot, that's all that mattered from RE3. That is to say until RE5 had Wesker make Battlesuit Jill thanks to the infection she suppressed in RE3, so that's another relevant plot point I guess. Until we get a proper remake of RE3 expanding its importance like REmake did RE1 or a future title making RE3 more relevant like RE5 did, it is what it is.

 

[Biojex]

RE3 gave a lot of insight into the level of Umbrella's control and influence. It really showed how much of a presence it actually had in this universe....until it went poof...

 

[Brandoloneous]

RE3 gave a lot of insight into the level of Umbrella's control and influence. It really showed how much of a presence it actually had in this universe....until it went poof...

How so? That it was in control of Raccoon City essentially? Jog my memory, I'm probably forgetting something even though I just played it a few weeks ago.

 

[SepticFlesh]

Has anyone played the newly released free "Resident Evil 6" demo yet?
I played several different stories so far as in if anyone has been reading the concept of this new Resident Evil...it appears as if the main characters will each have their own stories somehow but will still be related to the main plot.

So far I must say that I am heavily unimpressed. I realize this is just a demo and not a final release but still I thought Resident Evil 5 was a horrible game until last night I decided to pop it in and give it another try.
So far about 2 hours into RE 5 I am enjoying this far more than RE 6 and the graphics appear to be much better. So far RE 6 has seemed to have taken a step backwards (not in a good way) as far as how poorly the gameplay, physics of it all, and the lackluster generic graphics goes.

Again this is only a demo but with RE 6 coming out very soon in October I cannot imagine the main release being much different. I am not the best reviewer but do know the difference between a solid...just a decent...and a horrible game. So far with this demo it is just horrible.

I guess all we can do is just wait until Resident Evil 6 is released to finally be able to give it a proper review. I must say again playing through RE 5 if I try not to compare it to the first Resident Evil (which was a Masterpiece) this is really a pretty decent game that I am really enjoying...not saying it is great but for what it is (a third person action game)...if RE 6 is similar with an even more in depth plot...there may be potential.
Others who have played the new Resident Evil 6 demo...any thoughts?

 

[Brandoloneous]

Has anyone played the newly released free "Resident Evil 6" demo yet?
I played several different stories so far as in if anyone has been reading the concept of this new Resident Evil...it appears as if the main characters will each have their own stories somehow but will still be related to the main plot.

So far I must say that I am heavily unimpressed. I realize this is just a demo and not a final release but still I thought Resident Evil 5 was a horrible game until last night I decided to pop it in and give it another try.
So far about 2 hours into RE 5 I am enjoying this far more than RE 6 and the graphics appear to be much better. So far RE 6 has seemed to have taken a step backwards (not in a good way) as far as how poorly the gameplay, physics of it all, and the lackluster generic graphics goes.

Again this is only a demo but with RE 6 coming out very soon in October I cannot imagine the main release being much different.

I guess all we can do is just wait until Resident Evil 6 is released to finally be able to give it a proper review. I must say again playing through RE 5 if I try not to compare it to the first Resident Evil (which was a Masterpiece) this is really a pretty decent game that I am really enjoying...not saying it is great but for what it is (a third person action game)...if RE 6 is similar with an even more in depth plot...there may be potential.
Others who have played the new Resident Evil 6 demo...any thoughts?

These were my exact thoughts for months and months, especially after the Dragon's Dogma demo from back in June.

Recently, I've gotten used to the controls and played with a competent Co-op partner and it was really fun. RE6 may end up the same as RE5, hated it at first but grew on me solely because of the co-op.

 

[Kiva]

Resident Evil 3 added quite a lot to the story, in my opinion. Many things were uncovered and learned along the way that we take for granted now.

Re 3 coming after Re 2 feels so flat. Re 2 & 3 are basically set at the same time, bar the whole before-after thing during the course of the game. Which i dont buy for a second given the 2nd game is twice as long (and double that if you add in both stories, though thats not indicative of the duration of the real-time)

Re 2 introduced Claire, which was basically setting up the game for searching for the re 1 protagonist, we found out about William & G (whoes legacy spans several games), we got Sherry who we are now going to play as in re 6, we got introduced to Ada who is a big player in Re 4 & 6, and even during the times of RE3 if you consider the chronicles games canon. Due to Leon successfully escaping the city he gets recruited into working for the goverment, therefor ends up working with Krauser, doing the whole operation Javier thing, setting up re 4. We were introduced to the main umbrella lab underneith the city. You get to meet a bunch of people you only read about in notes in the first game.

With Re 3 what did it add to the story? There was elements in the game that added to its own story. We met umbrella security, which we had never saw before or heard from again.

3 Things happen in the story

1) Jill needs to escape
2) Umbrella is using the outbreak as a chance to get test data on the B.O.W.s
3) Nemesis has been sent to silence S.T.A.R.S. members

I cannot think of anything outside of Jill and the town that links it to the games either side of it.

 

[Brandoloneous]

I cannot think of anything outside of Jill and the town that links it to the games either side of it.

Thanks to RE5, Wesker keeps Jill alive after Lost in Nightmares because her blood contains anti-bodies to the T-Virus. After her infection by Nemesis, the vaccine used by Carlos only suppressed it for all these years making her blood stronger. Other than that end, I don't see how or what her blood may be used for in future titles, if at all?

 

[Kiva]

I didnt even know thats why he Kept Jill Alive! I thought he did it purely for the irony so he could feel empowered controlling her. One of his many plans that eventually ends up foiling him.

 

[Science Friction]

Has anyone watched RE: Damnation yet? It's a big improvement over the first RE film, and I'm pretty sure it ties in directly to RE6. I thought it was great. Since we're talking about RE and the story line a bit and all. I think if a game or a movie can progress the story and show you something new that excites you then it's succeeded.

 

[ironwez20]

Has anyone watched RE: Damnation yet? It's a big improvement over the first RE film, and I'm pretty sure it ties in directly to RE6. I thought it was great. Since we're talking about RE and the story line a bit and all. I think if a game or a movie can progress the story and show you something new that excites you then it's succeeded.

Was a very good movie. not boring at all like degeneration and Leon actually showed emotion. Not to mention the action was solid and brutal.

 

[DarthBakura]

Breaking the mold doesn't equate to relevancy in terms of plot. RE3 still had a "traitor," a big explosion, and male/female duo we've come to expect at that point in the franchise, and in some cases even now (but thanks Piers for breaking THAT mold!). RE0, RE1, RE2, and RE3 were about survival and escape. RECV was as well, but more so Chris saving his beloved and troublesome sister Claire. So far, it's the newer games, RE4, RE5, and RE6 that are about stopping a madman.

Jill wasn't a major character at that point, just a returning one. Going by that logic, Barry could've been considered a major character at that point if we didn't know how things would turn out now for him (which we didn't). Though, WITH what we know now, I will agree that RE3 established Jill as a major character onward just as CV did Chris and Wesker. The UBCS shed some light on the corruption of Umbrella, but it wasn't something we didn't already know and the UBCS were never used again besides Outbreak.

Even Wesker's Report focused solely on RE2 in the Raccoon City portion and only mentioned two things out of RE3, Nemesis pursuing STARS and Jill escaping the nuke. Because in terms of plot, that's all that mattered from RE3. That is to say until RE5 had Wesker make Battlesuit Jill thanks to the infection she suppressed in RE3, so that's another relevant plot point I guess. Until we get a proper remake of RE3 expanding its importance like REmake did RE1 or a future title making RE3 more relevant like RE5 did, it is what it is.

Whatever floats your boat.

Jill with her own game, with her own storyline. I'd say that's a far cry better plot than some of the other games, bar the first few. The concept of the story wasn't centered around taking down Umbrella or uncovering a disaster. It was a constant race against time for survival of one of the franchise's most notable characters.

It added plenty of depth to the franchise, in my opinion. It was the sister to RE2, but worthy of it's own name. In much the same way that RE5 linked to RE1, RE3 is linked to RE2. Except the story wasn't about some quest to stop yet another evil doer, with the exception of Nicholai, who was more "in the way" than anything.

Jill wasn't a major character at that point, just a returning one.

Jill was one of the first playable characters. If that's not "major character" material, then I don't know what is. Out of all the characters, she got the better game and an original story arc.

 

[Brandoloneous]

Whatever floats your boat.

Jill with her own game, with her own storyline. I'd say that's a far cry better plot than some of the other games, bar the first few. The concept of the story wasn't centered around taking down Umbrella or uncovering a disaster. It was a constant race against time for survival of one of the franchise's most notable characters.

It added plenty of depth to the franchise, in my opinion. It was the sister to RE2, but worthy of it's own name. In much the same way that RE5 linked to RE1, RE3 is linked to RE2. Except the story wasn't about some quest to stop yet another evil doer, with the exception of Nicholai, who was more "in the way" than anything.




Jill was one of the first playable characters. If that's not "major character" material, then I don't know what is. Out of all the characters, she got the better game and an original story arc.

Technically, neither were the following:

RE/REmake: Evil doer was unknown until finale and was done in via cutscene. Goal: get the **** out alive!

RE2: Evil doers either done in via cutscene or boss fights as a monster in your way. Like RE3, they pursue you, just more scripted. Goal: Per Leon, look for survivors, and get the **** out of there!

RECV: ***** got in the way, Chris did his hero thing! Goal: Rescue Claire, get the **** out alive! Damn it Wesker! (Hero thing fails )

I would say that doesn't matter, but usually characters in the first entry become mainstays in movies and video games and make a return. Rebecca could be argued as a major character, but we all know she isn't despite starring and being present in two canon entries. Even Harry Mason was more important than Rebecca Chambers! Samanosuke Akechi was major because Onimusha 3 made him. But I'm talking about an entire series, not just each entry. Get my drift? RE3 could've been about Elza and Jill forgotten like so many others. Hence, Jill wasn't important until RE3 made her important with as you say, expanding her character with her own story arc.

It's like saying Harry Mason is important to the Silent Hill series after SH2 just came out. He may be important to the first game obviously, but with only two games to go on, no. SH3 made him important even though all we see is his corpse, but we can't know that until the character is used again.

However, you could say that since there were only two RE's out at the time, every character was major and I see where you're coming from with that. There's no way of telling who will become a distant memory, forever forgotten. Hence, why Barry and Rebecca aren't major characters to the series now, yet...if ever

 

[laudel7]

The demo of this was friggn terrible. Wont be getting it until I hear peoples opinions of the full game.

 

[joshh]

I think Jill has always been a main char. She was playable and as important as Chris on the first game and remake. I mean if you consider Chris a main char because of RE1 then so should be Jill.
Then in RE3 she got her next appeareance and in RE5 Chris has his. (and jill again as a secondary char that we all knew).
Leon and Claire were main char in RE2. Then Claire got her solo appeareance (well with steve) in CV and Leon in RE4.
I think in RE6 however, Jill should have appeared some how as a partner of someone, perhaps a separate story line with her and Josh from Re5 just like they did with sherry and jack or with leon and helena. However that would have taken too much disc space LMAO.
I think there should be a download content or a "gold edition" that will contain Jill and Josh adventure for the game.. unless of course RE7 is about Jill and Josh. Afterall they both scape together RE5.

 

[Kiva]

Then in RE3 she got her next appeareance and in RE5 Chris has his. Then Claire got her solo appeareance (well with steve) in CV and Leon in RE4.

Chris was in Code Veronica, his part was equal to Claire. And all the **** went down in his half of the game.