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People would've been happier if Roshi was revealed as the next release instead of Jaco. Roshi is epic, don't need to explain why he deserves a spot in the line.

As for Awakened Goku, he will be the top display piece for everyone... until SSj4 Goku is released ;)
 
I think he'll be Nappa'd for awhile. They haven't shown him since that one time and they may wait for his popularity to increase in Super.

I'm fully expecting to see Nappa at SDCC. If he's not there, I'm burning down their headquarters with the fire inside my collector's heart :balrog

Same goes for SSJ4
 
Awesome stuff Prodigy!

Hi Philosopher, I'm glad to see you again :)

Well in my country today premiered:

800

The movie is all what I expected...

Really amazing movie with much more action and funny moments than in the previous movie, I ended up loving it.

Jaco joins my list of figures to buy, he is very funny and fight in a way or style that reminded me of Spider-Man.

My DBZ movie favourite until now, that's all… For the moment.
 
You guys should really just read jaco's manga. So what if toriyama rewrote some of his own manga what's wrong with that? Honestly he's a cool character. I get that you guys want some of the more iconic characters but Tamashii is thinking about what's best for business which is the RoF and DB super figures.


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People would've been happier if Roshi was revealed as the next release instead of Jaco. Roshi is epic, don't need to explain why he deserves a spot in the line.

As for Awakened Goku, he will be the top display piece for everyone... until SSj4 Goku is released ;)

Holy ****, how did I not think of that. Jacked Roshi would have stolen the entirety of the Resurrection F releases!

Awakened Goku actually has me excited to play around with Final Form Frieza! I was going to use him with Resurrection F Goku but I would much rather take inspiration from the 4 hour, err I mean 5 minute, fight on Namek. :lol

Super Saiyan 4 Goku is still my holy grail and the heavens will open up and shine down upon him when he's released but holy **** did Awakened Goku wow the **** out of me.
 
You guys should really just read jaco's manga. So what if toriyama rewrote some of his own manga what's wrong with that? Honestly he's a cool character. I get that you guys want some of the more iconic characters but Tamashii is thinking about what's best for business which is the RoF and DB super figures.


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What's wrong is that he retconned the damn origin story. The original Dragon Ball anime and manga has the wrong beginning now. I'm sorry but ****** that. There's certain things you don't mess around with and Jaco stands for everything I don't like about the way Toriyama is Lucasing the series (even though I don't hate the Star Wars prequel like some, I do understand the hate). I will not accept that Bardock had a happy loving family with Raditz and Goku playing Tonka trucks in a white picket fence somewhere in some Planet Vegeta suburb. Nope, can't do it. That's why canon, at least as Dragon Ball is concerned, is all in the eyes of the beholder.

Sorry if that came off harsh, but I just feel very strongly about this stuff, especially DB Minus.
 
I'm fully expecting to see Nappa at SDCC. If he's not there, I'm burning down their headquarters with the fire inside my collector's heart :balrog

Same goes for SSJ4

SDCC NEEDS to show something new. I don't give a rat's ass if it doesn't come out until mid/late 2016. They just need to reveal something that's new for everybody. This is a huge stage for them. (Balrog is a emoticon?!) Don't burn down their headquarters. ...I'm not going to share my Super Saiyan 4 Goku. :lol

I've accepted that Super Saiyan 4 Goku won't show up until at least NYCC since the two absorbed Buu figures are still catching up. Hopefully we'll see new hair molds for Vegeta and some other figures with different faces/displays.

You guys should really just read jaco's manga. So what if toriyama rewrote some of his own manga what's wrong with that? Honestly he's a cool character. I get that you guys want some of the more iconic characters but Tamashii is thinking about what's best for business which is the RoF and DB super figures.

Unlock your inner Z fighter

I honestly just don't care for him at the moment. I appreciate that you're mentioning all these things to get me excited for the character. I am looking forward to seeing his character in the film.
 
SDCC NEEDS to show something new. I don't give a rat's ass if it doesn't come out until mid/late 2016. They just need to reveal something that's new for everybody. This is a huge stage for them. (Balrog is a emoticon?!) Don't burn down their headquarters. ...I'm not going to share my Super Saiyan 4 Goku. :lol

I've accepted that Super Saiyan 4 Goku won't show up until at least NYCC since the two absorbed Buu figures are still catching up. Hopefully we'll see new hair molds for Vegeta and some other figures with different faces/displays.



I honestly just don't care for him at the moment. I appreciate that you're mentioning all these things to get me excited for the character. I am looking forward to seeing his character in the film.

I'm still thinking that they simply haven't shown him so they can have a nice GT reveal at SDCC. They did say that SDCC would "blow us away" (not sure if that's the exact wording, but something like that). They've already revealed so much so they HAVE to have something saved for the big event. Please Tamashii gods make it so :pray:
 
Awesome stuff Prodigy!

Hi Philosopher, I'm glad to see you again :)

Well in my country today premiered:

800

The movie is all what I expected...

Really amazing movie with much more action and funny moments than in the previous movie, I ended up loving it.

Jaco joins my list of figures to buy, he is very funny and fight in a way or style that reminded me of Spider-Man.

That's all… For the moment.
Stupid question but did this premiere in Spanish or Japanese? I rather watch this in Spanish first lol :D
 
What's wrong is that he retconned the damn origin story. The original Dragon Ball anime and manga has the wrong beginning now. I'm sorry but ****** that. There's certain things you don't mess around with and Jaco stands for everything I don't like about the way Toriyama is Lucasing the series (even though I don't hate the Star Wars prequel like some, I do understand the hate). I will not accept that Bardock had a happy loving family with Raditz and Goku playing Tonka trucks in a white picket fence somewhere in some Planet Vegeta suburb. Nope, can't do it. That's why canon, at least as Dragon Ball is concerned, is all in the eyes of the beholder.

Sorry if that came off harsh, but I just feel very strongly about this stuff, especially DB Minus.

I get it and understand your point of view, and know when I say this I'm not trying to be rude or have an argument I'm just saying how I see it. Your right in dragon ball cannocity is in the eyes of the viewer. But to me I've always thought that if mangaki wanted to change up his/her manga why can't they? They put hours, days, and years of their life into the manga. So why can't they change things up here and there? Yes I understand that people will deny jaco's story and DB minus. But at the same time you should at least acknowledge it as what it is. If toriyama felt it was necessary to do what he did than so be it. Once again I complete understand where you're coming from prodigy and I respect your opinion and thoughts. Also not trying to start an argument was just speaking my mind.


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Stupid question but did this premiere in Spanish or Japanese? I rather watch this in Spanish first lol :D

Spanish is the only option here, in this case I'm happy with that because they used the voices I remember from DBZ (the dubbing for DBK was infamous) ;)
 
I get it and understand your point of view, and know when I say this I'm not trying to be rude or have an argument I'm just saying how I see it. Your right in dragon ball cannocity is in the eyes of the viewer. But to me I've always thought that if mangaki wanted to change up his/her manga why can't they? They put hours, days, and years of their life into the manga. So why can't they change things up here and there? Yes I understand that people will deny jaco's story and DB minus. But at the same time you should at least acknowledge it as what it is. If toriyama felt it was necessary to do what he did than so be it. Once again I complete understand where you're coming from prodigy and I respect your opinion and thoughts. Also not trying to start an argument was just speaking my mind.


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Yeah I don't wanna start an argument either, those are just pointless! I mean as the creator he can do whatever he wants even if he wants to scrap DBZ all together and re-write it. Would I want that? Hell no. As of now, there's two different canon origins. I choose to accept the original as the one true origin and nothing can change that. The thing with Toriyama is that I don't even think he realized what he was doing when he wrote the manga. He's infamous for forgetting many aspects of his own series and not really paying attention to inconsistencies and overlapping information. That's why I don't think he honestly meant to create two different canons, it's just his own forgetfulness that led to that outcome.

Everyone can have their own version of what's canon and what isn't. Some follow straight up manga, some only anime, and some a mixture of both. That's the beauty of art, which the Dragon Ball franchise is. It's all in our imagination and we create our own interpretations of the art as we perceive it to be.
 
Yeah I don't wanna start an argument either, those are just pointless! I mean as the creator he can do whatever he wants even if he wants to scrap DBZ all together and re-write it. Would I want that? Hell no. As of now, there's two different canon origins. I choose to accept the original as the one true origin and nothing can change that. The thing with Toriyama is that I don't even think he realized what he was doing when he wrote the manga. He's infamous for forgetting many aspects of his own series and not really paying attention to inconsistencies and overlapping information. That's why I don't think he honestly meant to create two different canons, it's just his own forgetfulness that led to that outcome.

Everyone can have their own version of what's canon and what isn't. Some follow straight up manga, some only anime, and some a mixture of both. That's the beauty of art, which the Dragon Ball franchise is. It's all in our imagination and we create our own interpretations of the art as we perceive it to be.

Probably so


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I'm still thinking that they simply haven't shown him so they can have a nice GT reveal at SDCC. They did say that SDCC would "blow us away" (not sure if that's the exact wording, but something like that). They've already revealed so much so they HAVE to have something saved for the big event. Please Tamashii gods make it so :pray:

I hope you're right. I just think they haven't shown him because all of the Resurrection F figures pushed back everything that was shown at Tamashii Nations 2014. (This movie better be worth it. :gah: I'm really excited for it though.) Adam Newman said that Tamashii had everything laid out for the Dragon Ball Z line and that was before Resurrection F pushed everything back. Maybe we'll see some of the future releases they had in store.

I've thought about trolling a lot of newbie people on Facebook by posting this picture during SDCC weekend...

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as for the origin, it's not the fact that Toriyama changed it, i like the original only because it's simply better. It was a solid story & was tragic. it added depth to how ruthless Frieza really was & it gave Bardock significant character development. It gave insight into Planet Vegeta & their culture that still stands till this day. Toriyama's edit only gets points because it finally revealed who Goku's mom was, that's it.
 
You better take back that boom! That boom went off hours ago! Take it back!

Edited: Here's the official statement from Bluefin...

Time to reveal one of our two SDCC exclusives for this year... S.H. Figuarts Goku Frieza Saga Ver.!
Complete your Dragon Ball collection with this special variant of Goku as he lands on the Planet Namek! The S.H. Figuarts Goku Frieza Saga version features his iconic outfit with the “Go” GI symbols and original tied belt, as well as a new facial expression not found in the original release! This SDCC exclusive will be available in limited quantities. Figure includes 5 interchangeable faces, multiple hand for different poses, and charging Kamehameha effect part.

SO reading that statement, i am inclined to think we're getting a whole new face thats NOT the grinning face mexigoku got
 
as for the origin, it's not the fact that Toriyama changed it, i like the original only because it's simply better. It was a solid story & was tragic. it added depth to how ruthless Frieza really was & it gave Bardock significant character development. It gave insight into Planet Vegeta & their culture that still stands till this day. Toriyama's edit only gets points because it finally revealed who Goku's mom was, that's it.



That's honestly the best phrase to me. I accept specific things because I feel they're the best aspects that fit within my personal view of the story. If they're outside of that personal view, I won't gladly accept them because I don't have to. (edited: especially when there's alternatives that are available)



SO reading that statement, i am inclined to think we're getting a whole new face thats NOT the grinning face mexigoku got



I think Bluefin is just ignoring Mexico Goku. Which is kind of goofy but understandable because this is their release.
 
For me I just became happy if on sdcc they show ssj4(to me is okay how it looks now, but if they put bigger shoulders its okay too).
But also with ssj4Vegeta or S-17 display with him. Other one, could be super buu with the two buu (absorbed) and maybe, why not?, vegeta ssj2.
With all that on sdcc I really really became happy, and it's enough for me.
 
I see the ebay scalpers are trying their hardest to keep mexiGokus price up by putting up preorders of sdcc Goku at highly inflated prices too. These people are scum, that is all [emoji38]

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@Prodigy Last anime I watched was Gundam 00 and it was ****ing fantastic. I started psychopass but other non-anime stuff cut through.

Cool, so I guess I'm caught up then :)
Thanks guys.

I've also been busy following E3, I'm so hype for so many things I can't take it! *explodes*
Hey Philo nice to see you back man!

E3 hype? 3 words: Arkham moddaf@ckin Knight. And the tease for Mass Effect Andromeda was cool.

as for the origin, it's not the fact that Toriyama changed it, i like the original only because it's simply better. It was a solid story & was tragic. it added depth to how ruthless Frieza really was & it gave Bardock significant character development. It gave insight into Planet Vegeta & their culture that still stands till this day. Toriyama's edit only gets points because it finally revealed who Goku's mom was, that's it.
Totally agreed.
SO reading that statement, i am inclined to think we're getting a whole new face thats NOT the grinning face mexigoku got
You mean the teeth grinding face? Cause if we get a new face I think most expect a smirk/grin type of thing. But I don't think it'll be a new face.
 
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