S.H.FiguArts Dragonball Z figures!!!

[Baneofdemon22]

I love that King Piccolo you got Reaper! It looks fantastic!

 

[SupernaturalAddict]

Maybe I'm not seeing what you all are seeing, but I just don't like it. To me he looks a lot like LSP. A valiant effort no less.

 

[FSLAR]

I think we would also need Porunga, and the plus to Porunga is that he has no inconsistency from what I recall.

 

[imaI2EAPEi2]

I think we would also need Porunga, and the plus to Porunga is that he has no inconsistency from what I recall.

there is also a taki porunga that's huge look it up, and there is also a Tokyo festival one as well.

 

[Baneofdemon22]

Here's another thing I got from the Kanzenshuu forums, that I think was from the same interview with Toriyama. The user said it was just posted today:

"Freeza is what you might call a mutated life-form. Strictly speaking, Freeza’s father is a mutant with an abnormally high battle power. And, born from his father alone, still in strong possession of the mutant traits, was Freeza.
Accordingly, even saying “Freeza’s race”, these two are the only ones who possess an abnormal [level of] battle power and cruelty."

So, I'm guessing they're assexual. Freeza is already my favorite villain and I think it makes him and his father even more interesting that they were mutants. Or at least King Cold was a mutant and only Freeza took on the mutant gene. You don't see much alien races having mutation within their races. Right on Toriyama!

 

[crisis]

So do they lay eggs or something?

 

[Silrian]

That kinda makes Cooler incredibly non-canon, beyond normally, as his existence is directly countered canonwise.

I don't really like it though. Asexual fine, but I liked the idea of Frieza being of a specific race.

 

[Baneofdemon22]

I assume that they still are apart of a specific race, just King Cold was mutated and passed down the gene to his son. Or "mutated" was the best word he could think of. Kind of like how Goku was "mutated" when he drank the Ultra Divine Water, which killed every human that drank it, to become much stronger and then his warped DNA was passed down to his son, which allowed Gohan to be far stronger.

 

[Big Deano]

Where does that leave Chilled then? Just a normal version of Friezas race? Sounds like Toriyama just thought up that idea on the spot to me

 

[Baneofdemon22]

Yeah it doesn't matter. It's just another "what if" like I was doing yesterday with Broly's mom. It's just fun for me to think of.

 

[Rrashidp]

Where does that leave Chilled then? Just a normal version of Friezas race? Sounds like Toriyama just thought up that idea on the spot to me

I agree and even if he said that doesnt mean cooler is non cannon anymore cuz the bardock father of goku movie is pretty legit in terms of jus stating what happened during that time, cooler was at the end of the movie aswell so ya lol chilled could be same bloodline maybe? Keep in mind chilled would be wayyy weaker than frieza an king cold seeing how being in super saiyan state makes you 50times stronger if im not mistaken and bardock was like power lvl 10-15k ish so chilled could jus be another person from same race thats it

 

[Baneofdemon22]

For the manga, unless the author states otherwise, if it's not in the books, it's not canon. And if Toriyama says something that didn't happen in the books, it's not canon, unless he wrote it. When it comes to the anime, it's not his canon, it's Toei's and they never said what's official, so you can accept whatever you want for their cannon unless they say otherwise. The more money it made, the more we got! It seems only if people like something will they include it. I love History of Trunks, but it's non canon in Toriyama's books, but I like it, so I incorporate it in my view of the story. The reason why I think, people were accepting Battle of Gods as a continuation of the manga story is because of this press release statement: "[a] new story in the official history of Dragon Ball is born, neither a spin-off nor a side-story, one that can be enjoyed by both children and parents, manga fans and anime fans." All the amazing changes that Batman TAS made were not part of the comics "canon", until they were written in. However, I used everything I knew from that show as a basis for my reading, unless it contradicted the story I was reading. Maybe I'm getting confused on what canon means vs continuity, because I never heard of "canon" before getting into DBZ. All I know is I love Dragonball!

I just checked and I didn't see Cooler at the end of the movie. The episode of Bardock took place thousands of years ago, being that Vegeta said the last Super Saiyan appeared a thousand years ago in the Freeza arc, and we know there were multiple Super Saiyans, being that there was a Super Saiyan God, and Bardock proceeded him. There had to be a lot of Super Saiyans, being that they were able to over power a Super Saiyan God. Then again, he was pure of heart, so he probably didn't go all out on them, but still they must have combined all their energy, and killed him like Goku took out Broly.

 

[crisis]

We know there were several Super Saiyans, but the way Vegeta described the legend, the last one was similar to Broly, in that he was full of rage and could barely contain his own power. I'd like to know who that was. Maybe he was even stronger than Broly? And could have there been a female Super Saiyan at one point? So many unanswered questions, lol

In regards to canon, look at it this way: Disney now owns the entire Star Wars brand, but to some, George Lucas IS Star Wars. If Disney declares something about SW, but Lucas says something that contradicts Disney, who would you believe? It's all really subjective.

 

[Big Deano]

Maybe the legendary ssj was a common soldier, would explain the lack of control, heck, imagine if king Vegeta left Broly, and he became a soldier? I can imagine he would eventually just become overwhelmed with rage and bloodlust and got himself killed in some way. Most saiyans cant control the oozaru form, so lssj would probably be too much for them to handle, especially with a soldiers bloodlust, being pretty much evil and all.

 

[Baneofdemon22]

The way Dragonball is, all it's incredible events come in very naturally, and that's one of the reasons it separates itself from almost every series. The characters feel "real" to me and although they can frustrate me, it's refreshing, because I know a lot of people that act just like them. I really like that Deano. It seems so simple and perfect. I think that would be an interesting way of how they took out the SSJ God. They just self destructed on him. With a race that values on itself on such pride, the more rage would build up amongst the lower class. They would be working much harder to prove themselves and being weaker, the higher class saiyans probably beat them to death. Knowing how Saiyan's bodies work, they kept coming back stronger. It would be no wonder why Vegeta would cower in such fear, seeing one of these Saiyans actually able to control it, and brought up with the Saiyan ideals.

 

[imaI2EAPEi2]

So here is my finished mecha frieza. The only thing ill be changing on him is the color of the blue circles on the armor as they are too pale and I couldn't get them brighter.
Also excuse my lord chill custom, I couldn't find the head lol.

 

[Baneofdemon22]

"As for her appearance and such, you’ll find out if you read the bonus comic in the collected release of Jaco the Galactic Patrolman. Her name was Gine, and a long time ago, she fought on a four-person team together with Bardock.

Gine had a gentle personality and wasn’t cut out as a warrior, being repeatedly saved from danger by Bardock. At that time, a special emotion was born between them. Normally, Saiyans don’t have much of a notion of romance or marriage, and apart from the royal family of Vegeta, they aren’t particular about blood-relationships. Being in among all that, I suppose you could say that the pair of Bardock and Gine were those rare Saiyans who were joined by a bond other than for the purpose of reproduction. Incidentally, Gine, who was not cut out as a warrior, would go on to work at the meat distribution center on Planet Vegeta."

Here's a link to some of the interview with Toriyama! Mr. Satan's real name is Mark!
https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/seg-character-volume-truth-about-dragon-ball/

 

[Baneofdemon22]

Incredible Job Reaper! It looks so cool!

 

[Baneofdemon22]

Here's more of the interview guys:

https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/episode-bardock-akira-toriyama-super-qa/

 

[Rrashidp]

So here is my finished mecha frieza. The only thing ill be changing on him is the color of the blue circles on the armor as they are too pale and I couldn't get them brighter.
Also excuse my lord chill custom, I couldn't find the head lol.

That is amazing! Well frekkin done!