S.H.Figuarts Marvel MCU General Thread

[tinlunlau]

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Don't give them ideas![emoji38]Remember mexigoku?

What ideas? That's exactly what it says in that ad


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[FSLAR]

Re: S.H.Figuarts IronMan

What ideas? That's exactly what it says in that ad


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Anything like mexigoku I mean. I misread slightly my bad

 

[hbhf]

Re: S.H.Figuarts IronMan

Maybe they're doing sometihng with Hawkeye and Black Widow with AoU, I don't know but that's true.

Sharon Carter might be...dead weight for Figuarts, at least for Japan; of course she'd be great to most of us here, but Tamashii may not know.[/QUOTE]

I only say that because it seems like Tamashii favors superheroes with really cool, "Comic booky" looks, which is why I'm thinking Black Panther and Ant-Man took the lead ahead of the other guys, whereas I'm skeptical of Sharon getting one because she doesn't have a costume or a really distinctive look.

Come to think of it, that may be why there's been so much of a hold-up with Black Widow and Hawkeye. They're by far the most subdued and down to Earth looking of the Avengers.

 

[kryptonianmutie]

Re: S.H.Figuarts IronMan

It was a joke. Lighten up.

That's what I thought. As a newbie to this forum, I had a similar experience with another board member a couple of weeks ago. It happens. The internet can be tricky that way.

I don't know Motuxmen that well, but in the few discussions we've had he's been cool. Even when we disagreed strongly about the HT Mk 3 he didn't come at me with any malice. I think you'll find he has very strong opinions but he will back them up.

This is just me trying to shed some perspective on things.

 

[FSLAR]

Re: S.H.Figuarts IronMan

Sharon Carter might be...dead weight for Figuarts, at least for Japan; of course she'd be great to most of us here, but Tamashii may not know.

I only say that because it seems like Tamashii favors superheroes with really cool, "Comic booky" looks, which is why I'm thinking Black Panther and Ant-Man took the lead ahead of the other guys, whereas I'm skeptical of Sharon getting one because she doesn't have a costume or a really distinctive look.

Come to think of it, that may be why there's been so much of a hold-up with Black Widow and Hawkeye. They're by far the most subdued and down to Earth looking of the Avengers.[/QUOTE]That would make a lot of sense, and probably is the case. There's also how Japan may feel about them which I'm not aware of. Compared to the other anime lines Tamashii does at least.

 

[Plastic Bateman]

Re: S.H.Figuarts IronMan

I only say that because it seems like Tamashii favors superheroes with really cool, "Comic booky" looks, which is why I'm thinking Black Panther and Ant-Man took the lead ahead of the other guys, whereas I'm skeptical of Sharon getting one because she doesn't have a costume or a really distinctive look.

Come to think of it, that may be why there's been so much of a hold-up with Black Widow and Hawkeye. They're by far the most subdued and down to Earth looking of the Avengers.

That would make a lot of sense, and probably is the case. There's also how Japan may feel about them which I'm not aware of. Compared to the other anime lines Tamashii does at least.[/QUOTE]

Hasbro cockblocking Bandai from selling or distributing the Marvel Figuarts in the West will probably have a serious impact on what fandoms they cater to. Japan likes masked heroes and mech suits, so expect to see Black Panther, Spider-Man, Ant-Man/Giant-Man (he already looks like a Tokusatsu character, he'll sell like hot cakes over there), even more Iron Man and War Machine, etc. Don't expect to see much of anything in the way of villains, or female characters aside from Black Widow until we get Wasp or a similarly Toku-esque female protagonist.

 

[Magic Chaser]

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My favourite Tokusatsu franchises are Kamen Rider and Super Sentai <3

 

[Plastic Bateman]

Re: S.H.Figuarts IronMan

My favourite Tokusatsu franchises are Kamen Rider and Super Sentai <3

I was always more of a Metal Hero guy myself



I wouldn't mind seeing some Marvel Super Imaginative Chogokin figures...

 

[FSLAR]

Re: S.H.Figuarts IronMan

That would make a lot of sense, and probably is the case. There's also how Japan may feel about them which I'm not aware of. Compared to the other anime lines Tamashii does at least.

Hasbro cockblocking Bandai from selling or distributing the Marvel Figuarts in the West will probably have a serious impact on what fandoms they cater to. Japan likes masked heroes and mech suits, so expect to see Black Panther, Spider-Man, Ant-Man/Giant-Man (he already looks like a Tokusatsu character, he'll sell like hot cakes over there), even more Iron Man and War Machine, etc. Don't expect to see much of anything in the way of villains, or female characters aside from Black Widow until we get Wasp or a similarly Toku-esque female protagonist.[/QUOTE]Friggen Hasbro....they have been causing that since the Iron Man 2 Figuarts, and it caused prices to be hiked up.

I know Japan isn't a fan of villains either, again based off Bandai's anime lines. Ultron may have been an exception because of his design, since if we got an Avengers line, it'd be a different story on if or if not Loki would have been made. You're right on Ant-Man though, I got a huge vibe off him seeing some of the trailers for the movie.

 

[Motuxmen]

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That's what I thought. As a newbie to this forum, I had a similar experience with another board member a couple of weeks ago. It happens. The internet can be tricky that way.

I don't know Motuxmen that well, but in the few discussions we've had he's been cool. Even when we disagreed strongly about the HT Mk 3 he didn't come at me with any malice. I think you'll find he has very strong opinions but he will back them up.

This is just me trying to shed some perspective on things.

I appreciate that. I try not to make things personal or mean unless someone else does. But I can come off brash, of that I'm aware. I've been trying to tone down but not always with success. Lol
@fslar
As for "it was a joke" statement by the other poster. That's great. But just Becuase you add a joke or word it as such doesn't actually mean you didn't intend to be rude or whatever. The whole topic started after you told the other member he was wrong. He even attempted to correct you while being as non confrontational as is humanly possible (his if I'm not mistake post) and your response to that was tje post I replied to. He made multiple attempts to nicely make his point and diffuse the situation and each time you seemed to delight in pointing out he was wrong (while he was actually correct) and when it was addressed by me you deflected any blame. That's why I addressed it. From what I saw it went like this ...he said here's mk42 and43, you said nope your wrong. He said are you sure, you said yep and people will make fun of you for it so get it right. Then I said nope he's correct and your wrong and just wrote your joke back to you. So maybe you should lighten up since your mad that I said to you what you said to him...except he was right and you where wrong? Hmm.

 

[FSLAR]

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Motxumen, it's over, why do you continue this 'argument'? Ronri said it was ok, and you're still on about it. You're being rude to me me about being rude to him, do you not see the error in your ways? The entire thing was ended in the last page, but no, you need to have in another say in the matter for no reason except to be "right". And you're looking way too deep into this, into a matter that supposedly has nothing to do with you, it's like you took it personal, and that's what you're doing now. I didn't defect, I accepted it, but now you're going pretty far out for no reason. Can you accept your fault, or are you going to continue this vendetta? Take note that only you care, everyone else moved on.

Give it up. You are gaining nothing. I'm not mad, I'm just having a good time. Are YOU mad for something not involving you? That's what I'm sensing.

 

[hbhf]

Re: S.H.Figuarts IronMan

Hasbro cockblocking Bandai from selling or distributing the Marvel Figuarts in the West will probably have a serious impact on what fandoms they cater to. Japan likes masked heroes and mech suits, so expect to see Black Panther, Spider-Man, Ant-Man/Giant-Man (he already looks like a Tokusatsu character, he'll sell like hot cakes over there), even more Iron Man and War Machine, etc. Don't expect to see much of anything in the way of villains, or female characters aside from Black Widow until we get Wasp or a similarly Toku-esque female protagonist.

Oh man a Figuarts Wasp would be pretty awesome. We might get one for Infinity War.

And forgive my ignorance, but how has Hasbro done blocked them? Is it true for all the Asian companies making Avengers figures?

 

[FSLAR]

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And forgive my ignorance, but how has Hasbro done blocked them? Is it true for all the Asian companies making Avengers figures?

I'm not quite sure on Hasbro, I believe they have the global license.

But I can confirm that Figma had issues bringing over the Avengers Figmas, they couldn't put them on their global shop and prices got hiked up pretty badly. They said 'licensing', and that was enough. This is likely the case for other companies too.

 

[Plastic Bateman]

Re: S.H.Figuarts IronMan

Oh man a Figuarts Wasp would be pretty awesome. We might get one for Infinity War.

And forgive my ignorance, but how has Hasbro done blocked them? Is it true for all the Asian companies making Avengers figures?

I'm not quite sure on Hasbro, I believe they have the global license.

But I can confirm that Figma had issues bringing over the Avengers Figmas, they couldn't put them on their global shop and prices got hiked up pretty badly. They said 'licensing', and that was enough. This is likely the case for other companies too.

That's the long and short of it - Hasbro has some kind of master license to produce and sell toys worldwide at the moment, and they don't want companies like Max Factory, Tamashii, Kaiyodo, etc pissing in their pond by being able to distribute their figures in the West, or even sell them online from the point of origin. Hot Toys, Kotobukiya, Mezco, etc seem to be able to get around this by producing figures in a different style, scale or medium. Most likely the other companies were only able to acquire a license extending to the Far East and South East Asia as a result. Strangely enough, Medicom seem to be able to get around it, some of their Mafex figures like the premium Amazing Spider-Man 2 package were distributed by Diamond. In summary - it's a giant clusterfudge that probably nobody but the companies involved fully understands.

Expect this kind of thing to get far worse if the TPP/TPIP passes into law, at that point there'll be nothing to stop a company like Hasbro demanding that anything imported from a foreign country - even privately - that infringes their license be destroyed by customs (and no, you won't be reimbursed).

That said, I have to wonder if Hasbro will be able to keep this up for much longer. Their original deals with Marvel and Lucasfilm were inked before the Disney buyout, and prior to that they'd ensured that absolutely no-one worldwide could compete with them. Once Disney took the helm they started handing out the licenses to other companies like a Pez dispenser spitting out candies. Be interesting to see what happens when the next contract renewal period rolls around.

 

[Motuxmen]

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Motxumen, it's over, why do you continue this 'argument'? Ronri said it was ok, and you're still on about it. You're being rude to me me about being rude to him, do you not see the error in your ways? The entire thing was ended in the last page, but no, you need to have in another say in the matter for no reason except to be "right". And you're looking way too deep into this, into a matter that supposedly has nothing to do with you, it's like you took it personal, and that's what you're doing now. I didn't defect, I accepted it, but now you're going pretty far out for no reason. Can you accept your fault, or are you going to continue this vendetta? Take note that only you care, everyone else moved on.

Give it up. You are gaining nothing. I'm not mad, I'm just having a good time. Are YOU mad for something not involving you? That's what I'm sensing.

Am I mad? Nope. But if you want to stop talking to me, then actually stop. You continue to comment on it. I takes to the other guy, yes about the convo but it wasn't talking to you. You comment. . I respond and you comment. You see the pattern? i respond ...meaning all it would take to stop that would you be to let it go.

As far as it not involving me...that stopped being the case long ago.

 

[FSLAR]

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That's the long and short of it - Hasbro has some kind of master license to produce and sell toys worldwide at the moment, and they don't want companies like Max Factory, Tamashii, Kaiyodo, etc pissing in their pond by being able to distribute their figures in the West, or even sell them online from the point of origin. Hot Toys, Kotobukiya, Mezco, etc seem to be able to get around this by producing figures in a different style, scale or medium. Most likely the other companies were only able to acquire a license extending to the Far East and South East Asia as a result. Strangely enough, Medicom seem to be able to get around it, some of their Mafex figures like the premium Amazing Spider-Man 2 package were distributed by Diamond. In summary - it's a giant clusterfudge that probably nobody but the companies involved fully understands.

Expect this kind of thing to get far worse if the TPP/TPIP passes into law, at that point there'll be nothing to stop a company like Hasbro demanding that anything imported from a foreign country - even privately - that infringes their license be destroyed by customs (and no, you won't be reimbursed).

That said, I have to wonder if Hasbro will be able to keep this up for much longer. Their original deals with Marvel and Lucasfilm were inked before the Disney buyout, and prior to that they'd ensured that absolutely no-one worldwide could compete with them. Once Disney took the helm they started handing out the licenses to other companies like a Pez dispenser spitting out candies. Be interesting to see what happens when the next contract renewal period rolls around.

I remember reading this a few times, about that master license. Scale probably is how they got around it, same with NECA too possibly since they only made 1/4th Marvel figures. I'm not sure about Medicom since Japan stores such as amiami couldn't distribute MAFEX Amazing Spider-Man 2, apparently.

TPP/TPIP is still a thing? I thought that was over with, yeesh.

 

[Motuxmen]

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That's the long and short of it - Hasbro has some kind of master license to produce and sell toys worldwide at the moment, and they don't want companies like Max Factory, Tamashii, Kaiyodo, etc pissing in their pond by being able to distribute their figures in the West, or even sell them online from the point of origin. Hot Toys, Kotobukiya, Mezco, etc seem to be able to get around this by producing figures in a different style, scale or medium. Most likely the other companies were only able to acquire a license extending to the Far East and South East Asia as a result. Strangely enough, Medicom seem to be able to get around it, some of their Mafex figures like the premium Amazing Spider-Man 2 package were distributed by Diamond. In summary - it's a giant clusterfudge that probably nobody but the companies involved fully understands.

Expect this kind of thing to get far worse if the TPP/TPIP passes into law, at that point there'll be nothing to stop a company like Hasbro demanding that anything imported from a foreign country - even privately - that infringes their license be destroyed by customs (and no, you won't be reimbursed).

That said, I have to wonder if Hasbro will be able to keep this up for much longer. Their original deals with Marvel and Lucasfilm were inked before the Disney buyout, and prior to that they'd ensured that absolutely no-one worldwide could compete with them. Once Disney took the helm they started handing out the licenses to other companies like a Pez dispenser spitting out candies. Be interesting to see what happens when the next contract renewal period rolls around.

Most of the wording in the proposed new trade agreements is already including in us law. The part you said about importing unlicensed stuff and having customs destroy it can happen now. That part of the Tpp wording was taking directly from the current us regulations.

The hasbro license is not unusual. And I don't think much will change going forward on it. At least the way that licensing is handled. Marvel has been giving out many licnesses for the same property long before Disney got involved. What's happened is that children's and retail sales have taken a steep dive in sales and interest while adult collectibles and speciality lines have gone the other way. And there are many more of the adult geared companies now then there ever was before.

Licensing and IP and likeness deals are incredibly complex. Your average consumer has no idea how much goes into it. The biggest effect the proposed trade agreements would have on people that collect on this forum and others like it would be the elimination of unlicensed and enforcement of current deals. Which has already started to pick up. It's why XM got in trouble for allowing its goods to sell in the wrong regions. Things like that will be heightened. And more visible.

 

[YankeesFanboy]

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******* breaks the figure at 5:00.

 

[hbhf]

Re: S.H.Figuarts IronMan

That's the long and short of it - Hasbro has some kind of master license to produce and sell toys worldwide at the moment, and they don't want companies like Max Factory, Tamashii, Kaiyodo, etc pissing in their pond by being able to distribute their figures in the West, or even sell them online from the point of origin. Hot Toys, Kotobukiya, Mezco, etc seem to be able to get around this by producing figures in a different style, scale or medium. Most likely the other companies were only able to acquire a license extending to the Far East and South East Asia as a result. Strangely enough, Medicom seem to be able to get around it, some of their Mafex figures like the premium Amazing Spider-Man 2 package were distributed by Diamond. In summary - it's a giant clusterfudge that probably nobody but the companies involved fully understands.

Expect this kind of thing to get far worse if the TPP/TPIP passes into law, at that point there'll be nothing to stop a company like Hasbro demanding that anything imported from a foreign country - even privately - that infringes their license be destroyed by customs (and no, you won't be reimbursed).

That said, I have to wonder if Hasbro will be able to keep this up for much longer. Their original deals with Marvel and Lucasfilm were inked before the Disney buyout, and prior to that they'd ensured that absolutely no-one worldwide could compete with them. Once Disney took the helm they started handing out the licenses to other companies like a Pez dispenser spitting out candies. Be interesting to see what happens when the next contract renewal period rolls around.

That really sucks.

 

[Bardoon]

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What everyone said about Hasbro is mostly right, the only correction is that their master license extends throughout the United States and likely a few other Western countries. Bandai, Max Factory, etc. have free reign over the coveted Asian markets with their figures. If they didn't, they wouldn't likely be able to produce anything with Marvel and Star Wars as the market wouldn't be large enough for profits. Thanks to that Asian market, we're able to get these fantastic figures.

My understanding is that the "Master license" covers figures in the 6" inch scale. Sideshow managed to wrangle the 12" Star Wars "high end" scale and it's believed they inked a sub-deal with Hot Toys which benefits them both. The Force Awakens is Hot Toys' own original deal with Disney while the remaining product such as the PT and OT items thus far is a sub-contract between Sideshow and Hot Toys. That's partially believed why Hot Toys has been releasing figures that Sideshow has already done with some exceptions.

Hasbro has every right to be concerned because Bandai is developing figures of superior quality and detail and diving right into Hasbro's customer base. Once Bandai-Tamashii started releasing amazing Star Wars figures it has put them on everyone's radar and even led some collectors to perhaps give us on the Black Series.