Should the actor portraying Captain America be an American?

[sirrobert]

Darthneil,

Maybe Rudy can play Earth X cap down the road.

 

[preeny101]

He's got the jawline.

And they've even already got a 1/6 toy out of him so HT could just use that head sculpt.

Gentlemen.. I think we've found our Cap.

Someone needs to Photo a Captain America Helm onto this guys face!

 

[DarthNeil]

Clever, Darthneil very clever you are. I have never seen that version of Hamlet. I know of it but little else. You've piqued my interest.

And yes Gosling would be driven enough to go through the rigors of gaining and losing the weight to play both Steve Rogers and Captain America. My only concern is would he be conflicted about playing a character with such a loaded identity. Last I heard, a while ago mind you, was that Gosling doesn't want to be consumed by the capitalist machine of the States. But who knows? If cast such sentiment might give Gosling's performance that much more nuance.

Don't waste your time with that Hamlet version-- despite Kenneth Brannagh's questionable hair choice (and moustache) his version is much more faithful to the original play-- but if you like to go outside the norm check out the modernized Ethan Hawke version set in NY where Denmark is in fact a corporation and Ethan is a film student who does his III.i. "To be or not to be" speech in a movie rental store-- talk about inability to make a decision... Comedy or action?...

I hadn't heard that about Gosling. But on acting, look, and age he'd be one of the best choices... and I'd love to see him on the screen face to face with RDJ's Tony Stark.

 

[sirrobert]

I like the Brannagh Hamlet very much. Much of Shakespeare's wit and ribaldry is kept intact. I am going to act in a pared down production of Hamlet as Laertes and it pains me to know that Hamlet's "Hecuba" solioquy in Act II or the discourse tween the clown and Gravedigger of Act V will not be performed in our production.

Have you seen Tropic Thunder yet? If you have not I recommend it. The first seven minutes will leave you pissing in your pants especially the scene with Kurt Lazarus and a web slinging co-star. The potential Marvel crossover you mentioned brought it to mind.

 

[DarthNeil]

I like the Brannagh Hamlet very much. Much of Shakespeare's wit and ribaldry is kept intact. I am going to act in a pared down production of Hamlet as Laertes and it pains me to know that Hamlet's "Hecuba" solioquy in Act II or the discourse tween the clown and Gravedigger of Act V will not be performed in our production.

Have you seen Tropic Thunder yet? If you have not I recommend it. The first seven minutes will leave you pissing in your pants especially the scene with Kurt Lazarus and a web slinging co-star. The potential Marvel crossover you mentioned brought it to mind.

I did see it-- and yes, Satan's Alley was beyond humourous.

Laertes? That's great-- Unfortunately I've always been cast as a villain (go figure)... Richard III, Iago, insane drunken mysoginistic newscaster-- but then villains are more fun to play.

Shame about losing scenes--especially the gravediggers... "Was the first that ever bear arms..."

Die well Laertes.

You must be looking forward to Hamlet 2 with Tropic Thunder's Steve Coogan... I know I am.

 

[sirrobert]

Our group might schedule a field trip around seeing "Hamlet 2." I dig playing bad guys. You are right villains do have more fun.

 

[DarthNeil]

That brings up the point, who should the villain be in the Captain America movie? The obvious answer would be the Red Skull (especially if they stay true to the source material and have a realistic WWII backdrop)-- I wonder who'd be the best actor to be cast in that role?

 

[The Mike]

Someone who can act and still pull off a believable German Accent. The make up will be so heavily done that their face won't be an issue so this is where talent will impede everything else.

 

[sirrobert]

Well, I like Jeremy Irons but he's getting long in the tooth. The fellow who played the Captain in Peter Jackson's version of "King Kong" made make a decent choice. I forget his name.

 

[The Mike]

Looking at Red Skull's uniform and make up, age isn't a factor really.

 

[sirrobert]

Well if that is the case Irons would be a good but obvious choice. The actor must be gaunt though. This is the Red Skull we are talking about after all. Daniel Craig would be good too. He's more sallow then a scarecrow and buttered his bread on film by playing baddies before he earned his 00 status. "Road to Perdition" was okay but he stood out to me as the whelp of a son to Paul Newman's gangster father.

 

[Blackthornone]

Michael Ironside would make an ok Red Skull.

 

[pordey2]

We can get Matt Damon some stilts and let him be Cap. No?

As long as the english is american english it doesn't matter where the actor is from. There MUST be no trace of a foreign accent however.

Why not? The whole country is just immigrants! Or maybe cap. Am. should be native American?

 

[DarthNeil]

Red Skull?... One that everyone knows, Viggo Mortenson.
One that not too many know-- Colm Feore.

He's a Canadian classical trained Shakespearean actor with phenomenal range who unfortunately has only been exposed to Americans in bit parts or the baddie in horribly written movies such as Ben Affleck's Paycheck and Vin Diesel's sequel... Chronicles of Riddick... He was also the bad guy in the Stephen King tv movie version of Storm of the Century.

 

[sirrobert]

Feore fits the bill. Though "The Chronicles of Riddick" stunk. How does Vin Diesel keep finding work?

 

[sirrobert]

Why not? The whole country is just immigrants! Or maybe cap. Am. should be native American?

In "the First" the first guy the Army tested the Super Soldier Serum on was a Black Man a la the Tuskgee Experiments. So, mrcontinental, a Native American as Cap appears not to be as far fetched as one imagines.

 

[DarthNeil]

Feore fits the bill. Though "The Chronicles of Riddick" stunk. How does Vin Diesel keep finding work?

No doubt. But Colm Feore is a tremendous actor and he'd do a fantastic job as the villain.

 

[DarthNeil]

As for Ryan Reynolds he carries too much baggage in my opinion.

Take Ryan Reynolds out of the picture for Cap--- He's already going to be in the Marvel movie universe...

Spoiler

Reynolds makes an appearance as Deadpool in next summer's X-Men Origins: Wolverine and one can only assume if his appearance is a hit then that character will be spun off into its own film series.

 

[sirrobert]

Well Deadpool would be the type of character where Reynolds' baggage is an advantage.

 

[The Mike]

Actors in repeat roles of the Marvel Universe isn't unheard of. Ryan Reynolds is playing Deadpool but also played Hannibal King in Blade: Trinty. Wesley Snipes played Blade and before his legal troubles was trying to fast track a Black Panther film with him in the starring role. All signed off by Marvel BTW.