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I don't think it negated the native Americans stuff at all. It just added to it... I think....
Could be, the horses you hear after the spirit walks away had me thinking about the Native american theory too. Like i said i liked the idea with the atomic bomb which created a portal to a different dimension that allowed the evil spirits to enter our world, but what followed not so much. Laura sent to earth to battle bob was a little too much, even for the weird world of Twin Peaks.
Scareb
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I knew going into this that it would be weird. I mean the original was all over the place with weirdness so to not expect it is daffy. But it feels like lynch went "well ****, if they're gonna pay me to make this, I'm gonna crank this ***** to 11 and do some acid while I'm at it. This is gonna be trippy as balls".
"The chef made a strawberry dessert. I don't like strawberries. Therefore, the dessert and chef must both be terrible. Furthermore, those that do like the chef's strawberry dessert are snobs, hipsters and whatever other dissmissive I can think of."
How.... wha-... Where did you get all that from? "LYNCH'ED" is a meme. You got "hurr durr, I think Lynch is an ***** and his fans even bigger idiots, me smart" from... a meme and an in-jest response about a scene of a guy sweeping the floor? Talk about being defensive...
Haha. I think you misunderstood. I wasn't responding to you, just after you. 
And, no offense intended to you or any other, but I don't care enough what rando people on a message board think about a given subject to get defensive.
And, no offense intended to you or any other, but I don't care enough what rando people on a message board think about a given subject to get defensive.
Haha. I think you misunderstood. I wasn't responding to you, just after you.
And, no offense intended to you or any other, but I don't care enough what rando people on a message board think about a given subject to get defensive.
Oh yeah, fair enough then. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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Since there was no new episode this week and I needed my Twin Peaks fix, I went back through "The Secret History" book and tried to take notes on anything that was related to the original series and could possibly provide clues for the new series.
So if you haven't read the book but are interested in what it reveals, here's the condensed version:
Also, as annoying as I find the Dougie storyline being dragged out the way it is, I still loved the scenes with him hitting all the jackpots and yelling "Hello-oo-ooo!" so I made Coop's "Hello-o-oo!" a ringtone on my phone. It's funny.
So if you haven't read the book but are interested in what it reveals, here's the condensed version:
The book is essentially a dossier compiled by Garland Briggs. It is read and annotated by Special Agent Tamara Preston at Godron's request.
The jade ring we see in FWWM is first seen as far back as Lewis and Clark's expedition west.
Owl Cave has a history of sightings, described as a 6 foot tall "owl/man."
There is a mention of the nuclear blast at White Sands.
The main character of the book, if there really is one, is arguably Doug Milford. He was the most minor of characters on the show, as the old man who runs the newspaper who marries the beauty queen and then dies. Just a throwaway gag originally, but expanded here to be a shadowy character of great importance behind the scenes. The book follows his involvement in all kinds of conspiracies across the 20th century.
He first sees what he describes as "Bigfoot" back in 1927. Then he's a witness to the Roswell crash in 1947. At some point he is abducted himself, and bears the "triangle tattoo" that other abductees have. He becomes one of the Men In Black, may have even had something to do with Kennedy's assassination, and at one point is hanging out with Richard Nixon and Jackie Gleason as they go to a top secret facility to see an actual alien. (It is implied that Nixon himself was in possession of the jade ring at this point.)
The alien they see is described in a manner that makes it sound very similar to the thing we see in the "box" in New York that kills the couple in the first few episodes of the new series.
It is revealed that Andrew Packard and Pete Martell died in the bank vault blast. Audrey was critically injured, but survived. There was speculation that Pete shielded her from the blast with his own body. Audrey was left in a coma.
Three children went missing and had an abduction experience in 1947. They were Carl Rodd. the Log Lady, and a third boy named Alan Traherne. He apparently died of cancer in 1988, before the Laura Palmer case took place. But we have seen Carl since then, both in FWWM and in the new show, where he saw the dead boy's "soul" leave his body. Log Lady also looked to be dying of cancer, but that might not have been intentional as the actress really did die of cancer right after filming.
All three abducted children also had the triangle scar/tattoos on their body, same as Milford and later Briggs.
The first mention of Harry Truman having an older brother Frank was in detailing their high school football days, when most of the Bookhouse Boys were on the team together, including Harry, Frank, Big Ed, Jerry Horne, and Hank Jennings.
Hank Jennings was fatally stabbed in prison, supposedly by a distant Renault cousin.
Milford returned to Twin Peaks after "retiring" from the Air Force, and he buys the town newspaper. But really, he establishes Listening Post Alpha in Twin Peaks. LPA is a SETI facility that is trying to monitor alien life. Briggs is chosen as his successor, and he gives Briggs the documents that becomes the dossier that makes up the book.
It's mentioned that Leland Palmer was born in 1944, so perhaps that puts him at the right age to be the boy we saw walking with his girlfriend in episode 8? Maybe not.
Phillip Jeffries and Windom Earle are mentioned very briefly. Agent Chet Desmond is also mentioned in the fact that he disappeared during the Teresa Banks investigation and was never heard from again. His partner on that assignment, Sam Stanley, apparently had a breakdown shortly afterwards and never came back to active duty.
The theory is thrown out that maybe Milford's young bride was actually as assassin charged with silencing him once and for all?
Once Milford is dead, Briggs needs a new partner for his SETI project, and he thinks Cooper is perfect. Cooper comes to see him after waking up at the Great Northern. Briggs knows something is terribly wrong. He writes "mayday" and heads to Listening Post Alpha alone and that's the last entry.
We know from the show now that Bad Coop sets fire to LPA and Briggs dies while inside. Of course, there's more to it than that, cause of his body turning up 25 years later and his head floating around in the Black Lodge.
But that's pretty much it....the Secret History of Twin Peaks.
The jade ring we see in FWWM is first seen as far back as Lewis and Clark's expedition west.
Owl Cave has a history of sightings, described as a 6 foot tall "owl/man."
There is a mention of the nuclear blast at White Sands.
The main character of the book, if there really is one, is arguably Doug Milford. He was the most minor of characters on the show, as the old man who runs the newspaper who marries the beauty queen and then dies. Just a throwaway gag originally, but expanded here to be a shadowy character of great importance behind the scenes. The book follows his involvement in all kinds of conspiracies across the 20th century.
He first sees what he describes as "Bigfoot" back in 1927. Then he's a witness to the Roswell crash in 1947. At some point he is abducted himself, and bears the "triangle tattoo" that other abductees have. He becomes one of the Men In Black, may have even had something to do with Kennedy's assassination, and at one point is hanging out with Richard Nixon and Jackie Gleason as they go to a top secret facility to see an actual alien. (It is implied that Nixon himself was in possession of the jade ring at this point.)
The alien they see is described in a manner that makes it sound very similar to the thing we see in the "box" in New York that kills the couple in the first few episodes of the new series.
It is revealed that Andrew Packard and Pete Martell died in the bank vault blast. Audrey was critically injured, but survived. There was speculation that Pete shielded her from the blast with his own body. Audrey was left in a coma.
Three children went missing and had an abduction experience in 1947. They were Carl Rodd. the Log Lady, and a third boy named Alan Traherne. He apparently died of cancer in 1988, before the Laura Palmer case took place. But we have seen Carl since then, both in FWWM and in the new show, where he saw the dead boy's "soul" leave his body. Log Lady also looked to be dying of cancer, but that might not have been intentional as the actress really did die of cancer right after filming.
All three abducted children also had the triangle scar/tattoos on their body, same as Milford and later Briggs.
The first mention of Harry Truman having an older brother Frank was in detailing their high school football days, when most of the Bookhouse Boys were on the team together, including Harry, Frank, Big Ed, Jerry Horne, and Hank Jennings.
Hank Jennings was fatally stabbed in prison, supposedly by a distant Renault cousin.
Milford returned to Twin Peaks after "retiring" from the Air Force, and he buys the town newspaper. But really, he establishes Listening Post Alpha in Twin Peaks. LPA is a SETI facility that is trying to monitor alien life. Briggs is chosen as his successor, and he gives Briggs the documents that becomes the dossier that makes up the book.
It's mentioned that Leland Palmer was born in 1944, so perhaps that puts him at the right age to be the boy we saw walking with his girlfriend in episode 8? Maybe not.
Phillip Jeffries and Windom Earle are mentioned very briefly. Agent Chet Desmond is also mentioned in the fact that he disappeared during the Teresa Banks investigation and was never heard from again. His partner on that assignment, Sam Stanley, apparently had a breakdown shortly afterwards and never came back to active duty.
The theory is thrown out that maybe Milford's young bride was actually as assassin charged with silencing him once and for all?
Once Milford is dead, Briggs needs a new partner for his SETI project, and he thinks Cooper is perfect. Cooper comes to see him after waking up at the Great Northern. Briggs knows something is terribly wrong. He writes "mayday" and heads to Listening Post Alpha alone and that's the last entry.
We know from the show now that Bad Coop sets fire to LPA and Briggs dies while inside. Of course, there's more to it than that, cause of his body turning up 25 years later and his head floating around in the Black Lodge.
But that's pretty much it....the Secret History of Twin Peaks.
Also, as annoying as I find the Dougie storyline being dragged out the way it is, I still loved the scenes with him hitting all the jackpots and yelling "Hello-oo-ooo!" so I made Coop's "Hello-o-oo!" a ringtone on my phone. It's funny.
Pixelpiper
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It was on last week, and speaking as a HUGE Peaks fan, it was the worst thing that has ever been on TV in the history of the medium.
This new season is just a giant collection of unedited out-takes and random scenes looped together without so much as a musical score. There are some moments, but for the most part, wow, what a giant waste of time. Every cameo is a little thorn in the side. There's nothing in this season of what made the original 2 some of the best TV ever.
This new season is just a giant collection of unedited out-takes and random scenes looped together without so much as a musical score. There are some moments, but for the most part, wow, what a giant waste of time. Every cameo is a little thorn in the side. There's nothing in this season of what made the original 2 some of the best TV ever.
CriterionCollector
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Lynch moved on pretty quickly from the quirky style of Twin Peaks. Every one of his films from Fire Walk with Me to Inland Empire is the evolution of the darker David Lynch, while the original Twin Peaks belongs to the earlier style of Lynch. I also think the fact the Lynch and Frost are the only two writers on the Showtime series takes a lot of the other elements out that were originally found in the series. Lynch has also brought in a lot of other influences from his other mediums including painting and music to influence his style in this new version of Twin Peaks. As a matter of fact, the Showtime Twin Peaks has much more in common with his early short films like "The Grandmother" and "The Alphabet" than with, at least, the first season of Twin Peaks. I do disagree with you that this version has little to do with the second season of Twin Peaks. If you rewatch the second season, you can see the series headed in the direction of the darker tone of Twin Peaks: The Return.
This Twin Peaks isn't just edited out-takes and what-not. This is typical modern-day Lynch which tends to be very opaque and requires a lot of audience analysis. Actually, there isn't a ton in this series that is hard to decipher. You just have to think while you watch and I don't mean that as a slight at all.
This Twin Peaks isn't just edited out-takes and what-not. This is typical modern-day Lynch which tends to be very opaque and requires a lot of audience analysis. Actually, there isn't a ton in this series that is hard to decipher. You just have to think while you watch and I don't mean that as a slight at all.
Pixelpiper
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I'm not saying it's hard to decipher, just that it's poor film making and production. Bad edits, poor flow, sound design is almost non-existent. Cameos as nothing more than cheap fan-service.
This production couldn't stand on its own and does an extreme disservice to what came before it.
This production couldn't stand on its own and does an extreme disservice to what came before it.
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Sound design for Lynch has been the sound of white noise for Lynch since Lost Highway.
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Haha oh boy, haters gon' hate. Twin Peaks S3 is the best thing I've seen on television. Ever. Different strokes, though.
I tried watching episode 1, but I just couldn't get into it like the original show
Pixelpiper
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The last two episodes have been decent, last week's being one of the better of the season so far. But the whole thing still seems poorly constructed and edited. Very unfinished. I think a much better narrative and more polished production could be made by re-editing the entirety later on. It won't have the feeling of being shot sequentially and dailies being presented as episodes.
I'm really not a fan of burning the last 5 to 10 minutes of an episode on a stage performance either.
I'm really not a fan of burning the last 5 to 10 minutes of an episode on a stage performance either.
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This is what happens when an artist has complete editorial control. Just too indulgent for no real reason. Same thing happened in my opinion, on the last 3 Harry Potter books. Bloated, over stuffed, plot holes, etc. But it was such a runaway success by that point that no editor would dare trim it.
I was just thinking today while watching this week's ep that there does seem to be a story buried in there somewhere, and that once all 18 hours are out we're gonna see some somewhat coherent fan edits.
I was just thinking today while watching this week's ep that there does seem to be a story buried in there somewhere, and that once all 18 hours are out we're gonna see some somewhat coherent fan edits.
I I have loved it. The end scenes are a good exhale and think moment.
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