Solo: A Star Wars Story
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Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)
I think Kennedy and The Kasdans hired Lord and Miller to do a movie. A movie they all agreed on months before pre-pro started. I think over the last four months of production, the suits overstepped their roles as producers thinking that would fly with Lord and Miller but instead created an on-set feud Cimino-style (who used to kick producers off the set during The Deer Hunter). I think Kennedy and The Kasdans thought Lord and Miller would be micro-manageable and learned the hard way that they wouldn't be. Anyway, in the end something significant must have happened on set that made Lord and Miller walk and in turn the suits retaliated by "firing" them in the public eye.
Until we hear from Lord and Miller, the only narrative we have is Disney's which is "We fired these men for making a bad movie. It just took us four months to realize this." I myself don't buy it. I think if Lord and Miller were indeed butchering the material they would have been booted a few weeks into principal photography.
I hate the casting of Ehrenreich. I don't trust Kasdan the way everyone else seems to either. He was a once great writer/director, but much like Howard, has mostly sucked *** over the last two decades.
I think Kennedy and The Kasdans hired Lord and Miller to do a movie. A movie they all agreed on months before pre-pro started. I think over the last four months of production, the suits overstepped their roles as producers thinking that would fly with Lord and Miller but instead created an on-set feud Cimino-style (who used to kick producers off the set during The Deer Hunter). I think Kennedy and The Kasdans thought Lord and Miller would be micro-manageable and learned the hard way that they wouldn't be. Anyway, in the end something significant must have happened on set that made Lord and Miller walk and in turn the suits retaliated by "firing" them in the public eye.
Until we hear from Lord and Miller, the only narrative we have is Disney's which is "We fired these men for making a bad movie. It just took us four months to realize this." I myself don't buy it. I think if Lord and Miller were indeed butchering the material they would have been booted a few weeks into principal photography.
I hate the casting of Ehrenreich. I don't trust Kasdan the way everyone else seems to either. He was a once great writer/director, but much like Howard, has mostly sucked *** over the last two decades.
Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)
Firing a director (or two) seems like a fairly drastic move. No one wants that. Relationships build as do loyalties; but if they are continually tried, then it can get messy like any relationship.
Also, as far as a time frame, it seems like it would take time to build. Questions start to circulate, uncertainties begin to build. Dailies look salvageable, but actors start to complain. Notes are given, first warnings, second warning, etc. It sounds like it started slowly and grew into a mess over time.
Firing a director (or two) seems like a fairly drastic move. No one wants that. Relationships build as do loyalties; but if they are continually tried, then it can get messy like any relationship.
Also, as far as a time frame, it seems like it would take time to build. Questions start to circulate, uncertainties begin to build. Dailies look salvageable, but actors start to complain. Notes are given, first warnings, second warning, etc. It sounds like it started slowly and grew into a mess over time.
Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)
How much of Back to the Future was filmed before they decided to scrap it and start over?
How much of Back to the Future was filmed before they decided to scrap it and start over?
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Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)
I guess it all comes down to who do you trust?
Kathleen Kennedy:
Phil Lord and Christopher Miller:
I guess it all comes down to who do you trust?
Kathleen Kennedy:
- Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) (associate to Steven Spielberg)
- Poltergeist (1982) (associate producer)
- E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982) (producer)
- Twilight Zone: The Movie (1983) (associate producer) (segment 2)
- Gremlins (1984) (executive producer)
- Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984) (associate producer)
- The Color Purple (1985) (producer)
- Young Sherlock Holmes (1985) (executive producer)
- Back to the Future (1985) (executive producer)
- The Goonies (1985) (executive producer)
- Fandango (1985) (executive producer)
- An American Tail (1986) (executive producer)
- The Money Pit (1986) (producer)
- *batteries not included (1987) (executive producer)
- Empire of the Sun (1987) (producer)
- Innerspace (1987) (co-executive producer)
- The China Odyssey: 'Empire of the Sun', a Film by Steven Spielberg (1987) (associate producer)
- The Land Before Time (1988) (co-executive producer)
- Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988) (executive producer)
- Always (1989) (producer)
- Back to the Future Part II (1989) (executive producer)
- Dad (1989) (executive producer)
- Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989) (associate producer)
- Tummy Trouble (1989) (executive producer)
- Arachnophobia (1990) (producer)
- Gremlins 2: The New Batch (1990) (executive producer)
- Roller Coaster Rabbit (1990) (executive producer)
- Back to the Future Part III (1990) (executive producer)
- Joe Versus the Volcano (1990) (executive producer)
- Hook (1991) (producer)
- An American Tail: Fievel Goes West (1991) (executive producer)
- Cape Fear (1991) (executive producer)
- A Brief History of Time (1991) (executive producer) (uncredited)
- A Wish for Wings That Work (1991) (TV) (executive producer)
- Noises Off (1992) (executive producer)
- Schindler's List (1993) (executive producer)
- We're Back! A Dinosaur's Story (1993) (executive producer)
- A Dangerous Woman (1993) (executive producer)
- Jurassic Park (1993) (producer)
- A Far Off Place (1993) (executive producer)
- Trail Mix-Up (1993) (executive producer)
- Alive (1993) (producer)
- Milk Money (1994) (producer)
- The Flintstones (1994) (executive producer)
- Balto (1995) (executive producer)
- The Indian in the Cupboard (1995) (producer)
- Congo (1995) (producer)
- The Bridges of Madison County (1995) (producer)
- Twister (1996) (producer)
- The Best of Roger Rabbit (1996) (executive producer)
- The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997) (executive producer)
- A Map of the World (1999) (producer)
- Snow Falling on Cedars (1999) (producer)
- The Sixth Sense (1999) (producer)
- Olympic Glory (1999) (executive producer)
- Jurassic Park III (2001) (producer)
- A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001) (producer)
- The Sports Pages (2001) (TV) (executive producer)
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- Seabiscuit (2003) (producer)
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- The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (2008) (producer)
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- Lincoln (2012) (producer)
- Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015) (producer)
- Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (2016) (producer)
- Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017) (producer)
- Untitled Han Solo film (2018) (producer)
- Star Wars Episode IX (2019) (producer)
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Phil Lord and Christopher Miller:
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Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)
4 weeks into shooting they recast.
mic dropped lol
4 weeks into shooting they recast.
mic dropped lol
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Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)
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Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)
Impressive resume for a producer, yes, but Kathleen Kennedy, LUCASFILM STUDIO HEAD (suit) begins with TFA.
Impressive resume for a producer, yes, but Kathleen Kennedy, LUCASFILM STUDIO HEAD (suit) begins with TFA.
Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)
They were able to salvage some of the BTTF footage, but since the main character, who was in just about every scene was recast, the bulk had to be re-shot.
Gotta go with the other guys, I'm afraid.
They were able to salvage some of the BTTF footage, but since the main character, who was in just about every scene was recast, the bulk had to be re-shot.
Gotta go with the other guys, I'm afraid.
Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)
In that logic, Miller and Lord begin (and end) with Han Solo.
In that logic, Miller and Lord begin (and end) with Han Solo.
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Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)
No.
Producers aren't always bad. Studio heads (suits) are usually the problem. ****, Alan Ladd Jr. fought for Lucas on ANH when the studio wanted to shut him down.
Kennedy is a suit now and they are notorious for interfering. Best example being the Rothman/FOX era where he butchered every CBM the studio made until his departure in 2011.
No.
Producers aren't always bad. Studio heads (suits) are usually the problem. ****, Alan Ladd Jr. fought for Lucas on ANH when the studio wanted to shut him down.
Kennedy is a suit now and they are notorious for interfering. Best example being the Rothman/FOX era where he butchered every CBM the studio made until his departure in 2011.
Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)
I just don't see Kathleen suddenly becoming one of "them" because she gets a new title.
I just don't see Kathleen suddenly becoming one of "them" because she gets a new title.
Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)
I don't know. Disney might wait awhile and then release it for the big bucks they'll get for it.
I don't know. Disney might wait awhile and then release it for the big bucks they'll get for it.
Kamandi
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Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)
No, don't you get it? The moment you call someone a "suit" you can equate them with a faceless corporate know-nothing! She's not an "Executive Producer" with experience at keeping a film on the rails. She's a bean counter! She should be booed at the Star Wars events! Before long she'll be guilty of giving us five new Star Wars films and another Indiana Jones, that btch! She tried to keep the Han Solo film from becoming an Ace Ventura film! How dare!?!
I expect better from you Wor. You need to embrace your sense of irrational hate. She's a dirty 1%er.
No, don't you get it? The moment you call someone a "suit" you can equate them with a faceless corporate know-nothing! She's not an "Executive Producer" with experience at keeping a film on the rails. She's a bean counter! She should be booed at the Star Wars events! Before long she'll be guilty of giving us five new Star Wars films and another Indiana Jones, that btch! She tried to keep the Han Solo film from becoming an Ace Ventura film! How dare!?!
I expect better from you Wor. You need to embrace your sense of irrational hate. She's a dirty 1%er.
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Re: Han Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)
You either die a hero or you live long enough to become one of..."them."
You either die a hero or you live long enough to become one of..."them."
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