Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)
Good jiggly slo-mo scene and it ends up on the cutting room floor.
Good jiggly slo-mo scene and it ends up on the cutting room floor.
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Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)
Oh I know, yours is the "common sense" response. jye offered a great one a while back too when he asked why Edwards would make such a big deal out of Lucas liking someone else's movie. I simply recognized that even if Disney did do something as crazy as greenlighting "Inglorious Rebel Basterds" and then completely changing their mind when they saw the rough cut, there simply wouldn't have been enough time to shoot a completely alternate film with four months to release.
Heh, the only one clinging to a narrative that defies all logic, common sense, and mathematical possibility is you. I love learning how all the pieces of films like this came about and fit together and I've dissected RO more than most. Once again you make a *claim* (this time that I have unquestionable faith in LFL's public narratives) without anything to back it up. The public statements by everyone who actually made this movie match the footage in both the finished film and those first two trailers, they fit the timelimes with regard to what was done when and by whom. They match the prequel novel and the actual film adaptation, they fit with what we already know about the players involved. No crazy conspiracy theories or tinfoil hats needed. Just tangible evidence.
The "Edwards cut." Of a hardcore holocaust war movie that you're now claiming Disney greenlit. Which Edwards allegedly delivered yet caused his own firing. There's just nothing that you're saying that holds any water man. It sounds like a friend of yours decided to mess with you, planted a total fabrication in your mind about what happened leading up to RO's theatrical release and since it appeared to feature all the elements of your favorite conflict (the eternal struggle between "auteurs" and "suits") you ran with it without questioning whether any of it was remotely (or even logistically) possible.
Now what I do like is that by you posting that "alternate opening" I get a glimpse of how you think these films should be. Something concrete and specific as opposed to "RO was originally Full Metal Jacket + makeup ***. Trust me." And now that I see what your supposedly awesome version of the movie would be I can quite definitively say that I'm glad they did not make such a film. Especially one that is meant to seque seamlessly into ANH. It just wouldn't have worked.
Maybe in a Nolan-esque reboot down the line but not as part of the current Saga.
Oh I know, yours is the "common sense" response. jye offered a great one a while back too when he asked why Edwards would make such a big deal out of Lucas liking someone else's movie. I simply recognized that even if Disney did do something as crazy as greenlighting "Inglorious Rebel Basterds" and then completely changing their mind when they saw the rough cut, there simply wouldn't have been enough time to shoot a completely alternate film with four months to release.
Heh, the only one clinging to a narrative that defies all logic, common sense, and mathematical possibility is you. I love learning how all the pieces of films like this came about and fit together and I've dissected RO more than most. Once again you make a *claim* (this time that I have unquestionable faith in LFL's public narratives) without anything to back it up. The public statements by everyone who actually made this movie match the footage in both the finished film and those first two trailers, they fit the timelimes with regard to what was done when and by whom. They match the prequel novel and the actual film adaptation, they fit with what we already know about the players involved. No crazy conspiracy theories or tinfoil hats needed. Just tangible evidence.
The "Edwards cut." Of a hardcore holocaust war movie that you're now claiming Disney greenlit. Which Edwards allegedly delivered yet caused his own firing. There's just nothing that you're saying that holds any water man. It sounds like a friend of yours decided to mess with you, planted a total fabrication in your mind about what happened leading up to RO's theatrical release and since it appeared to feature all the elements of your favorite conflict (the eternal struggle between "auteurs" and "suits") you ran with it without questioning whether any of it was remotely (or even logistically) possible.
Now what I do like is that by you posting that "alternate opening" I get a glimpse of how you think these films should be. Something concrete and specific as opposed to "RO was originally Full Metal Jacket + makeup ***. Trust me." And now that I see what your supposedly awesome version of the movie would be I can quite definitively say that I'm glad they did not make such a film. Especially one that is meant to seque seamlessly into ANH. It just wouldn't have worked.
Maybe in a Nolan-esque reboot down the line but not as part of the current Saga.
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Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)
He's the real deal, man. Ironically he said to me after reading some of your posts, that even if I threw him under the bus and told you who he was that you would still hate what you heard and completely reject the authenticity of it because of how much you liked what RO ended up being.
It's all good though. I only opened up because you seemed eager to know what the film originally was. The fact that you deem what I've shared with you a "fabrication" is unfortunate, but expected. But again, it's all good, man.
He's the real deal, man. Ironically he said to me after reading some of your posts, that even if I threw him under the bus and told you who he was that you would still hate what you heard and completely reject the authenticity of it because of how much you liked what RO ended up being.
It's all good though. I only opened up because you seemed eager to know what the film originally was. The fact that you deem what I've shared with you a "fabrication" is unfortunate, but expected. But again, it's all good, man.
Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)
So not only does your unnamed source know the "real story" behind RO, he also knows my motivations and behaviors better than I do myself? That is one hell of a source you've got there.
As far as RO is concerned there are pieces that fit together and then there's these claims you're making. I'm not really sure why you refuse or are unable to recognize that there's absolutely nothing to substantiate your friend's story but if it makes you happy to run with it then hey go ahead. The notion that I'll "reject the authenticity" of discarded scenes because I liked the finished movie is just another claim from out of left field. I like ESB *more* than RO and fully recognize that were was terrible dialogue between Han and Leia that thankfully was omitted from the theatrical release, the goofy Keystone Cop Snowtroopers getting killed by Wampas in Echo Base, Han's "I love you too" first take, and all that. What point would there be in pretending that all of that didn't happen? None. But I guess acting like I somehow need to do that is all you've got.
So not only does your unnamed source know the "real story" behind RO, he also knows my motivations and behaviors better than I do myself? That is one hell of a source you've got there.
As far as RO is concerned there are pieces that fit together and then there's these claims you're making. I'm not really sure why you refuse or are unable to recognize that there's absolutely nothing to substantiate your friend's story but if it makes you happy to run with it then hey go ahead. The notion that I'll "reject the authenticity" of discarded scenes because I liked the finished movie is just another claim from out of left field. I like ESB *more* than RO and fully recognize that were was terrible dialogue between Han and Leia that thankfully was omitted from the theatrical release, the goofy Keystone Cop Snowtroopers getting killed by Wampas in Echo Base, Han's "I love you too" first take, and all that. What point would there be in pretending that all of that didn't happen? None. But I guess acting like I somehow need to do that is all you've got.
Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)
Snikt knows what is going on. The rest of you are just to scared to admit that truth to yourselves!
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Snikt knows what is going on. The rest of you are just to scared to admit that truth to yourselves!
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Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)
SNIKT's source revealed, I should have known!
SNIKT's source revealed, I should have known!
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Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)
They're not supposed to fit though. When you completely rewrite a character you have to discard most of his coverage. That opening is just one of many sequences you don't see at all in Gilroy's cut. Stuff that's 100% absent in what we saw in theaters. Best example I can think of is how Coppola excised the French plantation portion from Apocalypse Now completely and until the REDUX cut in '01 you'd have no way of knowing those 20 minutes existed. The difference being that they fit the narrative and could be reinserted while a lot of the coverage Gilroy rewrote for RO became useless.
Even Mendelsohn has an interview where he calls them "two films".
They're not supposed to fit though. When you completely rewrite a character you have to discard most of his coverage. That opening is just one of many sequences you don't see at all in Gilroy's cut. Stuff that's 100% absent in what we saw in theaters. Best example I can think of is how Coppola excised the French plantation portion from Apocalypse Now completely and until the REDUX cut in '01 you'd have no way of knowing those 20 minutes existed. The difference being that they fit the narrative and could be reinserted while a lot of the coverage Gilroy rewrote for RO became useless.
Even Mendelsohn has an interview where he calls them "two films".
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Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)
Jye needs to make a "Khev vs. Snikt: whoever wins, we lose" poster.
Jye needs to make a "Khev vs. Snikt: whoever wins, we lose" poster.
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Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if SNIKT reveal that his source is one of the Gilroys.
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At this point I wouldn't be surprised if SNIKT reveal that his source is one of the Gilroys.
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Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)
Sounds like someone is always watching you. Always.
We've been found out!
So not only does your unnamed source know the "real story" behind RO, he also knows my motivations and behaviors better than I do myself? That is one hell of a source you've got there.
Sounds like someone is always watching you. Always.
We've been found out!
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Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)
lololololololol
So let me get this straight, this elite filmmaker who is either a director, writer, editor or producer who was directly responsible for RO is actually taking the time to read then address a fan's opinion over RO and not only that but he's spilling the beans on the secret RO movie that Disney hid from everyone.
Breaking News!
Lord and Miller will bypass their agents and legal team to directly explain to Khev what went wrong with the Han movie.
lololololololol
So let me get this straight, this elite filmmaker who is either a director, writer, editor or producer who was directly responsible for RO is actually taking the time to read then address a fan's opinion over RO and not only that but he's spilling the beans on the secret RO movie that Disney hid from everyone.
Breaking News!
Lord and Miller will bypass their agents and legal team to directly explain to Khev what went wrong with the Han movie.
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Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)
why would there be a fully functional cafe in a war torn, occupied city. specially one that's fancy and sits right outside a labor camp?
SNIKT is nothing but tumblr fan fiction.
Wouldn't be surprised if in the same scene, erso and krennick lock eyes, sweep the teapots and glasses right off the cafe table and **** while all the city watches, animal noises and all.
It would be about as gay and insensible as that's what this "darker" cut sounds like.
why would there be a fully functional cafe in a war torn, occupied city. specially one that's fancy and sits right outside a labor camp?
SNIKT is nothing but tumblr fan fiction.
Wouldn't be surprised if in the same scene, erso and krennick lock eyes, sweep the teapots and glasses right off the cafe table and **** while all the city watches, animal noises and all.
It would be about as gay and insensible as that's what this "darker" cut sounds like.
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Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)
"We will reveal the true secrets of rouge one on a dolly forum!"
"We will reveal the true secrets of rouge one on a dolly forum!"
Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)
Indeed!
Don't forget that John Knoll or whoever SNIKT's source is is also putting his career on the line over my posts by not only telling him specific details of Disney's buried movie but is creating a nice little paper trail by sending them via email/text no less.
Ohhh now you've done it. a-dev, you're up!
Sounds like someone is always watching you. Always.
Indeed!
Don't forget that John Knoll or whoever SNIKT's source is is also putting his career on the line over my posts by not only telling him specific details of Disney's buried movie but is creating a nice little paper trail by sending them via email/text no less.
Ohhh now you've done it. a-dev, you're up!
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Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)
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Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)
Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)
Oh man, "winner" is not the word that comes to mind when I look at myself in that photoshop.
Oh man, "winner" is not the word that comes to mind when I look at myself in that photoshop.
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Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)
I'm on the road I don't have access to all of my elements like Wor Gullet, 2 Tubes, Saw and handsome Khev lol
I'm on the road I don't have access to all of my elements like Wor Gullet, 2 Tubes, Saw and handsome Khev lol
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Re: Han Solo: An SJW Story (May 25th, 2018)
Does no one else realize that SNIKT is just trolling everyone here?
He doesn't even like Star Wars. He likes the PT.
Does no one else realize that SNIKT is just trolling everyone here?
He doesn't even like Star Wars. He likes the PT.
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